Anyone else watch this? Pastor is a lunatic.

Dude looked like he was coked out. I can see why his church was so popular, I imagine there were a whole lot of horny married men dragging their wives to his sermons.

Yes.

Wife and I just watched this. We both grew up going to a fundamentalist church...and the way that pastor's use the bible / God to manipulate others is just so very sad.

Sad all around documentary. How in the world does that guy still have a "church"...at the end they still said they had 20 members. Insane.

Isn't that what wives are for?

I'll be interested to see if the FBI actually puts any effort into this case and, if so, what they determine.

yeah this could have been 45 minutes

What really got me was the support of the people when he's spewing his garbage. How can you listen to that crap...especially the women. He didn't even try to hide it. And the family of the victim just happened to randomly find that parish. Life is so fragile.

That's totally mystifying to me. What did he have on those people?

I would have liked to have heard something from the perspective of the first wife and husband. They were kind of treated as afterthoughts.

How did he keep having her committed? Did I just imagine that can only happen with a court order?

That really shook me.

It's pretty easy to get people involuntarily committed, especially if they already have a history of manic or psychotic episodes. All it takes is a family or friend calling the police and claiming that you told them you were planning to kill yourself. Here in Texas, most cops responding to this call will put you under what is called an emergency detention. This legally allows the police as well as hospitals to hold you against your will for 48 hours or until an order of protective custody is filled out by a physician which lasts up to 20 days and can be extended past that. Most states have similar processes in place. Most physicians will just assume the family or friend claiming the patient's suicidality has their best interest in mind and go along with the emergency detention at least until they have had more time with the patient to determine the legitimacy of the concerns.

Ah. Good point. Maybe I was thrown off by the suggestion in the show that someone "lured" her there.

I bet he threatened to post vids of homeless people jacking off on her.

BadMoonRisin said:

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Ah. Good point. Maybe I was thrown off by the suggestion in the show that someone "lured" her there.

I bet he threatened to post vids of homeless people jacking off on her.

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Tell me more.

I think she said that's something that he made her do. Bang homeless dudes and let them drop loads on her.

BadMoonRisin said:

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Its odd. You just know he had to have had something to do with it and his behavior is suspicious, but you cant get around the fact that she bought the gun and ammo herself, drove 90 miles away, called 911. So odd

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And didn't they mention that the spent casings were nowhere near her body? It's a head-scratcher for sure.

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Its odd. You just know he had to have had something to do with it and his behavior is suspicious, but you cant get around the fact that she bought the gun and ammo herself, drove 90 miles away, called 911. So odd

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And didn't they mention that the spent casings were nowhere near her body? It's a head-scratcher for sure.

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Why are there multiple spent casings at the scene of a suicide?

bc she is a bad shot - maybe she wanted to make sure it worked,

like I said this was maybe 45 minutes worth of material, maybe - just poorly made

MookieBlaylock said:

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bc she is a bad shot - maybe she wanted to make sure it worked,

like I said this was maybe 45 minutes worth of material, maybe - just poorly made

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They did drag it out

So is it worth a watch or not?

The Ex Officio Director said:

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So is it worth a watch or not?

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It's worth a watch.

The Ex Officio Director said:

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So is it worth a watch or not?

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It is worth watching, yes.

I couldn't believe he was allowed to be a preacher at the same church after his 1st affair. When you consider all the circumstances its next level! His new wife must be BSC.

I also thought there was foul play involved with the guy that died in the wheel chair

Blonde Coffee Beans said:

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I couldn't believe he was allowed to be a preacher at the same church after his 1st affair. When you consider all the circumstances its next level! His new wife must be BSC.

I also thought there was foul play involved with the guy that died in the wheel chair

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Lake Houston Baptist Church back in the day, had a pastor who was sleeping with the deacon wives. Half the church wanted him to leave, the other half wanted to give him a pay raise. Fast forward to today, things have not changed.

I've read the bible front and back and have not found where it says, And God said unto thee, blessed are thy pastors who sleep with thy deacon wives.

Blonde Coffee Beans said:

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I get forgiving someone but a person in that position of the church should step down and leave the church. Probably never be a preacher again.

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Oh he left the church after months of infighting. Only to take half the congregation and start a new church.

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100%. They set the whole thing up to lead you to believe there would be some reveal that he killed her, then basically shrugged their shoulders and said "well, he drove her to it". Still a despicable human being, but anything for views.

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In an era where a solid % of women are blaming Patrick Clancy in some way shape or form for Lindsay Clancy methodically murdering her three children in cold blood, this should be a certified banger.

A sexual dalliance used to be widely considered an automatic disqualification from being a pastor any longer. Sadly, not so widely anymore.

Hub `93 said:

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A sexual dalliance used to be widely considered an automatic disqualification from being a pastor any longer. Sadly, not so widely anymore.

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In most congregations if a pastor cheats on his wife with a young married member of the church he would be fired. This congregation evidently is made up of horn dogs that like the twisted message the pastor is delivering on Sundays. He is basically preaching that a horny husband can't be blamed for cheating if his wife allows Satan to tempt him by denying him enough sex. That was the essence of pretty much all of the sermons they showed. Anyone that listened to that message repeatedly that continued to attend services wouldn't leave for anything as long as their wives continued to listen.