King of the Hill

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I'm pretty good on Oklahoma gummies, so i started a new thread.

There's something strange about watching King of the Hill at 54 that I never could have understood when I was 24.

The original series premiered in January 1997. I was 24 years old. Bobby Hill was 12, and Hank was 43. At the time, I didn't particularly identify with Bobby, and I certainly didn't identify with Hank. Hank was an older dad from a generation that seemed distinctly removed from mine. His routines, his attitudes, his obsession with propane and his rigid ideas about how things should be done were funny precisely because they felt like the worldview of someone older than me.

I was basically watching Hank from the outside.

Nearly 30 years later, the reboot has completely changed that perspective.

I'm now 54. Hank is essentially my contemporary. And Bobby, who was a kid when I first watched the show, is now roughly the age of my own kids.

That changes everything.

When I watch Hank now, I don't necessarily see the stereotypical middle-aged dad that I saw in my 20s. I see a guy who is much closer to me in age, trying to figure out how to relate to his adult child while the world around him keeps changing. The things that once seemed overly rigid or old-fashioned can now feel understandable. Sometimes I even catch myself thinking, Yeah, Hank has a point.

That's probably one of the strangest things about getting older: you don't necessarily realize that you've crossed the generational line until something you used to laugh at suddenly makes sense.

Bobby's transformation is even more surreal. In 1997, Bobby was a 12-year-old kid. I was already 24. There was never really a point where I identified with Bobby. He was a child character I watched while I was already becoming an adult.

Now Bobby is an adult, and he's roughly the age of my children.

So the show has essentially moved me into Hank's seat.

I'm no longer the young adult looking at an older father and wondering why he behaves the way he does. I'm watching a father deal with a child who has grown up, developed his own identity, and doesn't necessarily see the world the way his dad does.

That's a completely different experience.

And that's what makes the reboot more interesting to me than simply bringing back a beloved sitcom. The characters didn't just come back. Time actually passed.

Most animated sitcoms exist in a strange kind of suspended animation. Homer Simpson doesn't really age. Peter Griffin doesn't really age. The kids stay kids. The characters can experience thousands of adventures without the passage of time fundamentally changing who they are.

King of the Hill was always different because it was grounded in ordinary life. Its characters had jobs, marriages, children, aging parents and changing relationships. Letting them actually age makes the passage of time part of the story.

And for viewers who watched the original as young adults, something fascinating happens.

We aged too.

When I first watched Hank, he was an older guy.

Now I'm Hank's age.

When I first watched Bobby, he was a kid.

Now Bobby is my kids' age.

The show has essentially become a time capsule that followed me through adulthood.

That's why some of the humor lands differently now. I'm not just remembering what it felt like to watch King of the Hill in the 1990s. I'm comparing who I was then with who I am now.

At 24, I was closer to the beginning of adulthood. At 54, I've accumulated decades of experience being a husband, a father, a worker and an adult trying to navigate a world that keeps changing. I understand things about Hank now that I couldn't possibly have understood when I was his son's age.

And maybe that's the real trick of King of the Hill.

It wasn't necessarily a show about Hank being old-fashioned.

It was a show about a father trying to hold onto the things that made sense to him while the worldand eventually his own sonmoved beyond them.

At 24, I could laugh at Hank.

At 54, I sometimes recognize myself in him.

And somewhere along the way, without really noticing it, I became the guy I used to think was old.
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I don't know, man. It's just a cartoon.

I love the new episodes this year. I think they are hilarious. Last season was pretty good but Dale's voice was hard to get used to.
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I think this season is a lot better than last years. Hope they keep making them.
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CactusThomas said:

I don't know, man. It's just a cartoon.

I love the new episodes this year. I think they are hilarious. Last season was pretty good but Dale's voice was hard to get used to.
So is South Park…

I like the self-reflection shows (any shows) can create…sign of dang good writing. Good stuff.
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Dang ol dust in the wind man...


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Those must be some good Gummies… I'm chopping onions over here.

My dad died five years ago and now my youngest boy is starting his career in the Navy. My middle child tells me that I remind them of Hank Hill all the time.

I guess there's a little Hank Hill and all of usI'm
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Mike Judge is a visitor from the future. Or an alien.
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Was this filtered through AI?
TXAG 05
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Seven Costanza said:

Was this filtered through AI?

Was wondering that too, especially since the whole post could have been written in about 2-3 sentences instead of a whole page, saying the same thing 5 times.
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First - I'm always entertained by a gummie-fueled post. Great job. Post more like it.

Second - How old is Hank in the current version? I'm the same age as OP, and I think I'd still be in between Bobby and Hank's age if the series aged in the same number of years since it ended previously.

Third - I just googled Hank's and Bobby's age. I'm in the same boat as OP, which is almost exactly lined up with the HIlls. I'll check this show out, even though I probably live the reality of it every day.
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Seven Costanza said:

Was this filtered through AI?


I had some help.
Pichael Thompson
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Hank was neutered for the reboot


It's an abomination


If you relate to the new Hank I feel bad for you
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TXAG 05 said:

Seven Costanza said:

Was this filtered through AI?

Was wondering that too, especially since the whole post could have been written in about 2-3 sentences instead of a whole page, saying the same thing 5 times.


This.
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How so? I think the reboot is great. I see a man with traditional values staring at his later years, forced to deal with an ever-changing world, adapting in some ways and staying rigid in others.
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Hank became a ****ing soccer fan


Might as well be wearing a dress
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TXAG 05 said:

Seven Costanza said:

Was this filtered through AI?

Was wondering that too, especially since the whole post could have been written in about 2-3 sentences instead of a whole page, saying the same thing 5 times.


And multiple things were repeated at least 3 times.
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Pichael Thompson said:

Hank became a ****ing soccer fan


Might as well be wearing a dress

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3 weeks in that ****hole country will change ya
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It's totally within Hank's MO to all of the sudden like soccer. Like a previous poster said, the entire series is predicated on Hank's more traditional/sensible values constantly getting challenged by a changing world. Some of the funniest episodes are based off of this premise. Remember Hank crying in the movie theater because his truck was dying? How he all the sudden liked organic food? Started playing (and enjoying) grand theft auto?

I think the reboot has been solid, especially Bobby's storyline. He's still the loveable goofball he's always been, but he's channeled that energy into being a young, high profile chef that Hank is extremely proud of. The boy turned out alright after all.
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Rudyjax said:

I'm pretty good on Oklahoma gummies, so i started a new thread.

There's something strange about watching King of the Hill at 54 that I never could have understood when I was 24.

The original series premiered in January 1997. I was 24 years old. Bobby Hill was 12, and Hank was 43. At the time, I didn't particularly identify with Bobby, and I certainly didn't identify with Hank. Hank was an older dad from a generation that seemed distinctly removed from mine. His routines, his attitudes, his obsession with propane and his rigid ideas about how things should be done were funny precisely because they felt like the worldview of someone older than me.

I was basically watching Hank from the outside.

Nearly 30 years later, the reboot has completely changed that perspective.

I'm now 54. Hank is essentially my contemporary. And Bobby, who was a kid when I first watched the show, is now roughly the age of my own kids.

That changes everything.

When I watch Hank now, I don't necessarily see the stereotypical middle-aged dad that I saw in my 20s. I see a guy who is much closer to me in age, trying to figure out how to relate to his adult child while the world around him keeps changing. The things that once seemed overly rigid or old-fashioned can now feel understandable. Sometimes I even catch myself thinking, Yeah, Hank has a point.

That's probably one of the strangest things about getting older: you don't necessarily realize that you've crossed the generational line until something you used to laugh at suddenly makes sense.

Bobby's transformation is even more surreal. In 1997, Bobby was a 12-year-old kid. I was already 24. There was never really a point where I identified with Bobby. He was a child character I watched while I was already becoming an adult.

Now Bobby is an adult, and he's roughly the age of my children.

So the show has essentially moved me into Hank's seat.

I'm no longer the young adult looking at an older father and wondering why he behaves the way he does. I'm watching a father deal with a child who has grown up, developed his own identity, and doesn't necessarily see the world the way his dad does.

That's a completely different experience.

And that's what makes the reboot more interesting to me than simply bringing back a beloved sitcom. The characters didn't just come back. Time actually passed.

Most animated sitcoms exist in a strange kind of suspended animation. Homer Simpson doesn't really age. Peter Griffin doesn't really age. The kids stay kids. The characters can experience thousands of adventures without the passage of time fundamentally changing who they are.

King of the Hill was always different because it was grounded in ordinary life. Its characters had jobs, marriages, children, aging parents and changing relationships. Letting them actually age makes the passage of time part of the story.

And for viewers who watched the original as young adults, something fascinating happens.

We aged too.

When I first watched Hank, he was an older guy.

Now I'm Hank's age.

When I first watched Bobby, he was a kid.

Now Bobby is my kids' age.

The show has essentially become a time capsule that followed me through adulthood.

That's why some of the humor lands differently now. I'm not just remembering what it felt like to watch King of the Hill in the 1990s. I'm comparing who I was then with who I am now.

At 24, I was closer to the beginning of adulthood. At 54, I've accumulated decades of experience being a husband, a father, a worker and an adult trying to navigate a world that keeps changing. I understand things about Hank now that I couldn't possibly have understood when I was his son's age.

And maybe that's the real trick of King of the Hill.

It wasn't necessarily a show about Hank being old-fashioned.

It was a show about a father trying to hold onto the things that made sense to him while the worldand eventually his own sonmoved beyond them.

At 24, I could laugh at Hank.

At 54, I sometimes recognize myself in him.

And somewhere along the way, without really noticing it, I became the guy I used to think was old.


I'm not reading all that.
Im happy for you though or sorry that it happened
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Rudyjax
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thanks!
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Jack Ruby said:

It's totally within Hank's MO to all of the sudden like soccer. Like a previous poster said, the entire series is predicated on Hank's more traditional/sensible values constantly getting challenged by a changing world. Some of the funniest episodes are based off of this premise. Remember Hank crying in the movie theater because his truck was dying? How he all the sudden liked organic food? Started playing (and enjoying) grand theft auto?

I think the reboot has been solid, especially Bobby's storyline. He's still the loveable goofball he's always been, but he's channeled that energy into being a young, high profile chef that Hank is extremely proud of. The boy turned out alright after all.

Sorry, but this has to be said...

It's "all of a sudden."
"Well, if you can’t have a great season, at least ruin somebody else’s." - Olin Buchanan
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Jack Ruby said:

It's totally within Hank's MO to all of the sudden like soccer. Like a previous poster said, the entire series is predicated on Hank's more traditional/sensible values constantly getting challenged by a changing world. Some of the funniest episodes are based off of this premise. Remember Hank crying in the movie theater because his truck was dying? How he all the sudden liked organic food? Started playing (and enjoying) grand theft auto?

I think the reboot has been solid, especially Bobby's storyline. He's still the loveable goofball he's always been, but he's channeled that energy into being a young, high profile chef that Hank is extremely proud of. The boy turned out alright after all.

I just don't see Hank becoming a commie and liking soccer. That was my main complaint from last season.
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TXAG 05 said:

Jack Ruby said:

It's totally within Hank's MO to all of the sudden like soccer. Like a previous poster said, the entire series is predicated on Hank's more traditional/sensible values constantly getting challenged by a changing world. Some of the funniest episodes are based off of this premise. Remember Hank crying in the movie theater because his truck was dying? How he all the sudden liked organic food? Started playing (and enjoying) grand theft auto?

I think the reboot has been solid, especially Bobby's storyline. He's still the loveable goofball he's always been, but he's channeled that energy into being a young, high profile chef that Hank is extremely proud of. The boy turned out alright after all.

I just don't see Hank becoming a commie and liking soccer. That was my main complaint from last season.

"Soccer was invented by European ladies to keep them busy while their husbands did the cooking."

-Hank S3E17

I still like the new seasons.
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August 13 is Bobby's birthday.
Bobby is searching for his passport in S15 E3 Searching of Bobby Phisher and it shows to date, but not the year.
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One of my favorite scenes is when Hank is lubing something up with WD40 and his regular sized can develops a squeak, so he pulls the miniature size can out of a holster just to lube up the large can of WD40. Just a classic representation of men using WD40 for everything.
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TXAG 05 said:

Jack Ruby said:

It's totally within Hank's MO to all of the sudden like soccer. Like a previous poster said, the entire series is predicated on Hank's more traditional/sensible values constantly getting challenged by a changing world. Some of the funniest episodes are based off of this premise. Remember Hank crying in the movie theater because his truck was dying? How he all the sudden liked organic food? Started playing (and enjoying) grand theft auto?

I think the reboot has been solid, especially Bobby's storyline. He's still the loveable goofball he's always been, but he's channeled that energy into being a young, high profile chef that Hank is extremely proud of. The boy turned out alright after all.

I just don't see Hank becoming a commie and liking soccer. That was my main complaint from last season.


I've lived overseas. American sports aren't on at good times and some (like college football) the coverage is either really **** or just nonexistant. Hank also isn't screwing with VPN's and the like. Stationed in Saudi Arabia where entertainment options are limited… it's not only 100% plausible but pretty likely somebody like Hank would get way into soccer.
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He's already a longhorns fan.
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