I found these tweets to be extremely interesting/revealing/bleak, and figured we were due for some kind of a "Celebrities & Scientology" thread, if only to discuss how bat**** insane these people are, if not straight up evil. For all of our differences on this board, I feel like we can at least unite in our disdain for these lunatics...

Militant Scientologist and former SNL cast member Chloe Fineman has just announced a collaboration with @westelm, and it will surprise no one with half a brain to learn that for this project she has decided to team up with the design firm Pierce & Ward.

Pierce & Ward is… pic.twitter.com/2S8vI5ariC

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) July 29, 2026

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Militant Scientologist and former SNL cast member Chloe Fineman has just announced a collaboration with @westelm, and it will surprise no one with half a brain to learn that for this project she has decided to team up with the design firm Pierce & Ward.

Pierce & Ward is controlled by another militant Scientologist, Emily Ward, who is married to Giovanni Ribisi.

The Ribisis are extremist Scientologists who are ruthless, even beyond Scientology's normal standard of militancy.

They are Jenna Elfman level of ruthless.

The number of families and lives destroyed by the Ribisis while acting as enforcers for Scientology is too long to list on social media.

Congratulations Chloe on this collaboration!

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Suri, Katie Holmes’s daughter, who was abandoned by her biological father, Tom Cruise, legally dropped the last name “Cruise” at some point, per a new report from Page Six.

Suri Noelle is the name she used to register to vote.

Good for her.

A reminder: Tom Cruise… pic.twitter.com/jOkY988VU0

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) July 27, 2026

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Suri, Katie Holmes's daughter, who was abandoned by her biological father, Tom Cruise, legally dropped the last name "Cruise" at some point, per a new report from Page Six.

Suri Noelle is the name she used to register to vote.

Good for her.

A reminder: Tom Cruise believes that having any sort of connection to Suri will impede Scientology and could possibly cause him to become sick or injured.

He also believes that by remaining connected to her in any way, he is committing a suppressive act, is a danger to Scientology, and is therefore a danger to the future of humanity.

This is all because her mom was declared a suppressive person, an enemy of Scientology.

As a result, Suri is considered PTS, a potential trouble source.

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For his years of reporting on Scientology's abusive practices and advocating for victims of Scientology, my friend @yashar has become a significant target of harassment and retaliation by Scientology's intelligence department, The Office of Special Affairs (OSA).

Yashar is one…

— Leah Remini (@LeahRemini) July 27, 2023

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For his years of reporting on Scientology's abusive practices and advocating for victims of Scientology, my friend @yashar has become a significant target of harassment and retaliation by Scientology's intelligence department, The Office of Special Affairs (OSA).

Yashar is one of the few reporters ever to take the time to learn what Scientology truly is, from its many policies and procedures to its unique language, and how OSA operates.

Until you become a target of Scientology - as I have, along with other survivors, whistleblowers, and even those who were never Scientologists - you don't understand how intricate, sinister, and evil these operations are.

They have tried to destroy Yashar (and others) and will continue to try to destroy him. A vast majority of what Scientology has done and tried to do to Yashar isn't visible to the public and doesn't even have Scientology's name attached to it. And he has not shared much of what they've done with his friends.

There is no part of his life or the lives of anyone labeled an enemy that they have not tried to invade, undermine, and "obliterate," as stated in OSA network orders.

Yashar was never a Scientologist, but he takes these hits, which have turned his life upside down, because he cares about exposing Scientology's abuses. I hope he, and the few non-Scientologists like him, don't have to keep doing this on their own for much longer.

There is no point in calling the LAPD or other law enforcement agencies; they are in Scientology's pocket. There is simply no recourse for those who don't have a significant retainer to hire an attorney to make this stop. We have the IRS to thank for allowing Scientology to act with impunity, using tax-exempt money to destroy people's lives.

For those with the power and resources to do something, please stand up and help us end this reign of terror.

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Can someone explain "Jenna Elfman level of ruthless"?

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Jenna Elfman is widely characterized by critics and former members as one of the most devout and uncompromising high-profile members of the Church of Scientology. Observers and defectors often describe her dedication with terms like "ruthless" or extremist due to her strict adherence to church doctrine and enforcement of its disconnection policies.

Involvement and Militancy

Strict Disconnection: Elfman and her husband, Bodhi Elfman, are reported to strictly enforce Scientology's "disconnection" practice, cutting ties with friends and acquaintances who criticize the church or associate with outspoken defectors like Leah Remini.

Public Confrontations: Reports from former insiders and commentators note that she and her husband have actively confronted critics of the organization in public settings.

High-Level Devotion: Accounts from church history highlight her intense early dedication, including expressing deep desires to join the Sea Org (Scientology's religious order) and viewing her career through the lens of church objectives.

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Living in the Tampa Bay area I'm obviously near their headquarters in Clearwater, FL. Anybody who's lived here for any length of time knows how the church of scientology has slowly bought up all the land and businesses near their headquarters, pushing out all of the local businesses and residents. The problem is that the city seems to colluding with the church by setting up backroom deals to literally hand over full streets to the church, who then do nothing with any of the properties and are just letting all this land sit vacant, as long as it's in the hands of the church.

When I was younger and working in the field I did jobs over there by their headquarters. Several times we were approached by these random groups of young church members with clipboards, who'd say they were performing a survey, and then ask the most absolute random non connected questions then leave. They're always nice and polite, just always weird.

Sadly, the disconnection bit doesn't sound too far off modern political discourse, with too many people refusing to meaningfully engage with opposing viewpoints.

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Living in the Tampa Bay area I'm obviously near their headquarters in Clearwater, FL. Anybody who's lived here for any length of time knows how the church of scientology has slowly bought up all the land and businesses near their headquarters, pushing out all of the local businesses and residents. The problem is that the city seems to colluding with the church by setting up backroom deals to literally hand over full streets to the church, who then do nothing with any of the properties and are just letting all this land sit vacant, as long as it's in the hands of the church.

When I was younger and working in the field I did jobs over there by their headquarters. Several times we were approached by these random groups of young church members with clipboards, who'd say they were performing a survey, and then ask the most absolute random non connected questions then leave. They're always nice and polite, just always weird.

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We used to film in Pinellas County and since have moved over to Hillsborough. My producing partner's old producing partner is a second generation scientologist. Their business relationship wasn't the best at the end and he was concerned about being in Clearwater.

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A reminder: Tom Cruise believes that having any sort of connection to Suri will impede Scientology and could possibly cause him to become sick or injured.

He also believes that by remaining connected to her in any way, he is committing a suppressive act, is a danger to Scientology, and is therefore a danger to the future of humanity.

This is all because her mom was declared a suppressive person, an enemy of Scientology.

As a result, Suri is considered PTS, a potential trouble source.

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Man, reading this just makes me sad as a parent.

It's really incredible that someone whose reached the absolute pinnacle of success like Cruise and has the power to do anything he wants is controlled by a few to such a degree that he believes something like that. It's a cult. But they're certainly not the only ones who brainwash members to intentionally stay away from people who are threats to making them question the beliefs.

What is the real deal with scientology? Are they trying to get to some sort of heaven? Are they trying to bring their god closer? I feel like all these things are somehow connected to sex, usually the older male leaders having sex with a bunch of different women. Is that the goal? Seems like Tom could go out and get laid pretty easily and wouldn't need all this craziness. Is it about money? I watched the south park and that is about as far as I care to research this.

Did the teens stop busting into their buildings? That was funny to me.

I think it's about power, money, and control. They court celebrities that have the money to give and the influence to put them in elite circles. The higher ups live a lavish lifestyle and make up the rules to conceal themselves from scrutiny. They get the attention because they target the wealthy and influential. They're obviously not the only organization/cult/religion to do this, but having famous people like Tom Cruise attached to their brand puts them more in the spotlight.

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I think it's about power, money, and control. They court celebrities that have the money to give and the influence to put them in elite circles. The higher ups live a lavish lifestyle and make up the rules to conceal themselves from scrutiny. They get the attention because they target the wealthy and influential. They're obviously not the only organization/cult/religion to do this, but having famous people like Tom Cruise attached to their brand puts them more in the spotlight.

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This.

It is a straight up cult in every sense of the term. This is objective truth.

I went down the rabbit hole some years ago and it is literally insane how much power they have accrued while still managing to stay somewhat lowkey, all things considered. The abuse of power, the absurdity of beliefs, the way money and fame is used to shortcut the line to power and dominance, etc. They have a sub org called the Sea Org which is their "navy" and operates a cruise ship.

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A reminder: Tom Cruise believes that having any sort of connection to Suri will impede Scientology and could possibly cause him to become sick or injured.

He also believes that by remaining connected to her in any way, he is committing a suppressive act, is a danger to Scientology, and is therefore a danger to the future of humanity.

This is all because her mom was declared a suppressive person, an enemy of Scientology.

As a result, Suri is considered PTS, a potential trouble source.

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Man, reading this just makes me sad as a parent.

It's really incredible that someone whose reached the absolute pinnacle of success like Cruise and has the power to do anything he wants is controlled by a few to such a degree that he believes something like that. It's a cult. But they're certainly not the only ones who brainwash members to intentionally stay away from people who are threats to making them question the beliefs.

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Tom Cruise jumps out of airplanes, climbs buildings, swims underwater, and all these other extreme sports and death-defying stunts that I bet he thinks sex with a woman is very boring and not worth his time.

Outside of Cruise, are there many, if any, actual big names in Hollywood still associated with Scientology?

Seems like a weirdo cult where careers go to die, or where B-list actors congregate to covnince themselves they are really something bigger than they are.

Hard for this to rate on my list of real concerns when we're already dealing with commie/Islamist DSA and the Chinese/CCP. But since this is F13 and not F16 I shall leave that alone.

This has always been weird to me.

I just looked at a list of some celebrity Scientologists, most of which I didn't know about, and outside of Cruise/Travolta, they're all B-list actors at best.

Best known among them were Giovanni Ribisi and Jason Lee.

At some point I had started assuming most mid-tier actors who's careers never really took off are probably Scientologists.

I wonder if Cruise got Jason Lee hired onto Vanilla Sky to help his career as a fellow Scientologist.

I am pretty good at separating religion and politics when it comes to entertainment but finding out Elisabeth Moss was a Scientologist was pretty surprising. She was great in Mad Men but certainly an odd choice for the lead in The Handmaid's Tale.

I'll never comprehend how a father can just 'abandon' their child. I have 2 daughters and there's nothing in the world that would keep me from wanting to be with them.

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What is the real deal with scientology? Are they trying to get to some sort of heaven? Are they trying to bring their god closer?

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You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.- L. Ron Hubbard

It all grew out of Hubbard writing pretentious scifi, which then lead to him cosplaying as a navy commadore and sage. He set up the dianetics ponzi scheme to make money selling the public a bunch of self-improvement psychobabble. When his abusive/criminal practices (especially the way he treated the young people in his "Sea Org") got him in hot water with various law enforcement authorities, he claimed it was religious persecution. They've been claiming it is a religion ever since to dodge taxes and to give it an air of respectability.

All you need to know: https://www.xenu.net/

I've had a longtime irrational dislike for Elizabeth Moss. Nothing to do with her acting, just couldn't stand her. Now knowing she's a Scientologist, I feel it's a bit more rational.

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I've had a longtime irrational dislike for Elizabeth Moss. Nothing to do with her acting, just couldn't stand her. Now knowing she's a Scientologist, I feel it's a bit more rational.

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She has a very unfortunate face.
Like it make's me uncomfortable to look at.
And that sucks because Mad Men is one of my top three all time favorite shows.

I read the book "going clear" and watched the documentary and it is absolutely a cult.

Leah Remini's book is a wildly entertaining and eye-opening read; she got into it (like a lot of members) because her mother joined. Her chapters around Tom Cruise's wedding are insane. They pressured her to invite her friends J Lo and Marc Antony to the wedding (despite tom and Katie not knowing them) and then the church leaders kept trying to get J Lo alone, sitting her at the head table, etc in order to recruit her. J Lo asked to sit with her friends and then Leah got written up for her actions at the wedding. She had to spend $300k to take a remedial course in FL during her hiatus and wrote formal apologies to Katie Holmes. That's when she started to think "wait a minute…I was being a good Scientologist writing up Miscaviage partying with a woman not his wife, etc and I got punished?" Absolutely crazy.

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I'll never comprehend how a father can just 'abandon' their child. I have 2 daughters and there's nothing in the world that would keep me from wanting to be with them.

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I have a theory.

Basically, Cruise started doing his death-defying stunts, and chasing those insane highs, right around the time he and Katie Holmes divorced, and thus right around the time ties were also cut with his daughter. In other words, his career distinctively switched from "actor" to "crazy ass stuntman," and his divorce/severance from his daughter was the dividing line.

I think, deep down, being separated from his daughter tears him apart. But his psychotically misguided commitment to Scientology - and/or perhaps whatever dirt they have on him - obviously won out in the end. Thus, the sudden, slavish devotion to keeping himself obsessively occupied with insane challenge after challenge, death-defying stunt after death-defying stunt. Even now, he's pathologically busy, every second of every day accounted for, all devoted, one could argue, to keeping his mind laser-focused on his career and off his daughter.

I'm sure it's more complicated than that, but I think, deep down, that's potentially the driving force.

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I'll never comprehend how a father can just 'abandon' their child. I have 2 daughters and there's nothing in the world that would keep me from wanting to be with them.

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This, the things I would do to save my daughter or keep her safe are unthinkable.

I am a fan of Tom Cruise's acting, but the guy has got to be a straight up sociopath. Obviously there are likely a disproportionate amount of these types in Hollywood, just given the nature of that line of work, and who would naturally excel at it the most (someone who excels at not being themselves - or being other people).

For every Chris Pratt, there are probably a dozen hyper-narcissist/sociopathic types....but still somewhat grounded with reality and not crazy enough to join cults or especially to disown their children over said cults.

I personally think it is likely that Tom Cruise is gay or bisexual. And as soon as he were to ever turn his back on the cult, this would be released for all the world to see, with receipts. No way he is acting completely of his own volition, out of pure devotion to this made up cult. No way. At a minimum they have pics of his micro***** or something...something that would be extremely damaging to his career and reputation.

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This has always been weird to me.

I just looked at a list of some celebrity Scientologists, most of which I didn't know about, and outside of Cruise/Travolta, they're all B-list actors at best.

Best known among them were Giovanni Ribisi and Jason Lee.

At some point I had started assuming most mid-tier actors who's careers never really took off are probably Scientologists.

I wonder if Cruise got Jason Lee hired onto Vanilla Sky to help his career as a fellow Scientologist.

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Jason Lee?

Dammit, Earl.

Well, part of the Scientology scheme requires members to submit to interrogations and make confessions about every personal aspect of their lives, while being recorded ("Auditing"). It absolutely is blackmail material.

Jason Lee left Scientology and a lot of people speculate he moved to Denton to distance himself from the church.

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M.C. Swag said:

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I'll never comprehend how a father can just 'abandon' their child. I have 2 daughters and there's nothing in the world that would keep me from wanting to be with them.

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I have a theory.

Basically, Cruise started doing his death-defying stunts - and chasing those highs - right around the time he and Katie Holmes divorced, and thus right around the time ties were also cut with his daughter. In other words, his career switched from "actor" to "crazy ass stuntman," and his divorce/severance from his daughter was the dividing line.

I think, deep down, being separated from his daughter tears him apart. But his psychotically misguided commitment to Scientology - and/or perhaps whatever dirt they have on him - obviously won out in the end. Thus, the sudden, slavish devotion to keeping himself obsessively occupied with insane challenge after challenge, death-defying stunt after death-defying stunt. Even now, he's pathologically busy, every second of every day accounted for, all devoted to keeping his mind laser-focused on his career and off his daughter.

I'm sure it's more complicated than that, but I think, deep down, that's the driving force.

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Makes sense completely. Also, tengent to that but sort of related...I have made a few visits to a Chiropractor in the RIver Oaks area of Houston. One visit, we somehow got to talking about some of the insane wealth in the area and he told me stories of super wealthy clients who are just completely gutted within. Unhappy to the core. He told me about a man who broke down to him one day and basically said that nothing excites him anymore...no matter how sexual, adventurous or outrageous. He pilots his personal jet around and does all sorts of extraordinary things, and he is deeply disturbed that he does not seem to be able to feel any excitement or pleasure anymore.

I think some people keep chasing the highs of excitement or gratification and eventually find that they have exhausted every adventure or milestone imaginable.

Any ways, that made me feel better, as a shnuck who works a normal office job and has what many elites would consider a pretty "bland" life. At least most of us don't need to go sailing the Meditteranean on a mega yacht to be happy and can have fun pretty much everywhere, or just be happy/fulfilled in the presence of family and friends.

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I've had a longtime irrational dislike for Elizabeth Moss. Nothing to do with her acting, just couldn't stand her. Now knowing she's a Scientologist, I feel it's a bit more rational.

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She has a very unfortunate face.
Like it make's me uncomfortable to look at.
And that sucks because Mad Men is one of my top three all time favorite shows.

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Haha glad it's not just me. I can deal with ugly, but something about her face is highly annoying and abrasive. She looks like she picks her boogers and eats them...and tattles on people every chance she gets.

I've just never understood how they have so many members and "believers". I know the initial stages are textbook cult recruitment. Appealing to people who feel lost, aimless, searching for meaning... and then they go with basic psychology to address these areas, and fill them with a sense of community and purpose, while separating them from their family...

But at this point, everyone knows what Scientology is and what their high level beliefs are. How do you rationally think, "Oh a Space Emperor named Lord Xenu stole all the souls of alien species years ago and put them on earth and then caught their souls with giant soul catchers on the moon and now thats why everyone gets sad from time to time..."

Oh and also this was started 70 years ago by a science fiction writer and you have to pay us tens of thousands of dollars to advance in our organization


How are there this many ******ed people that go along with this???

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I've just never understood how they have so many members and "believers". I know the initial stages are textbook cult recruitment. Appealing to people who feel lost, aimless, searching for meaning... and then they go with basic psychology to address these areas, and fill them with a sense of community and purpose, while separating them from their family...

But at this point, everyone knows what Scientology is and what their high level beliefs are. How tf do you think oh a Space Emperor named Lord Xenu stole all the souls of alien species years ago and put them on earth and then caught their souls with giant soul catchers and now thats why everyone gets sad from time to time... Oh and also this was started 70 years ago by a science fiction writer and you have to pay us tens of thousands of dollars to advance in our organization


How are there this many ******ed people that go along with this???

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This. It's all so ridiculous it's amazing they ever got 15 losers to buy in. How they convinced so many high profile, successful people is beyond me. It's truly incomprehensible.

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Well, part of the Scientology scheme requires members to submit to interrogations and make confessions about every personal aspect of their lives, while being recorded ("Auditing"). It absolutely is blackmail material.

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Jeebus. Why do people to submit themselves to this bullsh**?

I mean, I get irritated with my pastor when he texts me to say he noticed we haven't attended in a couple weeks.

Interrogations? How bout f*** off?

I was actually curious how many members they have. They of course claim millions, but according to google their US membership is estimated at around 25,000. I guess when you consider there are 340 million people in the US, not hard to believe .007% of them would be susceptible to something like this.

Early 2000's, I got some free magazine trial subscriptions after signing up for another magazine.

One was Razor. I think it was trying to be an FHM or Maxim?

Pretty sure it was in that Razor magazine that Penn Gillette was a guest columnist. I *think* it was an article he wrote where he tore down Scientology. Might have been another one in a similar magazine of that era.

It detailed a woman who died in the "care" of Scientology when she got sick and they basically starved her and let her get dehydrated and she died and they had specific protocols to direct people with how to deal with it as far as what information to share and not to share. It was completely cult-like.

The poor woman had no chance to get out of that situation once she became ill. They even had a name for that scenario, like the Jennifer Effect or something odd.

It's been 20+ years since I read that article so I'm sure I'm missing some details but this was way before Leah Remini broke free and took a flamethrower to those people.

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P.H. Dexippus said:

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Well, part of the Scientology scheme requires members to submit to interrogations and make confessions about every personal aspect of their lives, while being recorded ("Auditing"). It absolutely is blackmail material.

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Jeebus. Why do people to submit themselves to this bullsh**?

I mean, I get irritated with my pastor when he texts me to say he noticed we haven't attended in a couple weeks.

Interrogations? How bout f*** off?

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You sound cranky.

You need to go to church.