True. Is there science behind this?

Aust Ag said:

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True. Is there science behind this?

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Yup. I forget the name of it but it's sort of a form of a heart attack….found an interesting video on this a ways back see if I can get my hands on it but there is a name for it….

The laman version of this would be what killed Padame in RotS

I had a neighbor and his wife die a day apart. I don't know how long they had been together, but they were both 90+ year olds. It does happen.

Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

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Takotsubo cardiomyopathy. Essentially a stress induced cardiomyopathy caused by a massive release of catecholamines (adrenaline) that causes myocardial stunning. It's called 'Takotsubo' because the condition leads to the heart resembling Japanese octopus traps.

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came here to post the same. Interestingly can happen after other major procedures like liver transplantation.

How do you stop it?

Isn't the point that the person doesn't want to stop it?

His dad's obit.

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I mean after a liver transplant.

Basically other "heart" meds you might use for heart failure. Beta blockers, diuretics, sometimes blood thinners. Really trying to mitigate the potential complications and patients can recover.

Ah, gotcha.

This happened with my wife's grandparents. When we came home from her grandfather's funeral, I was talking to her grandmother, and you could tell she was 'done.' It's like she stayed alive for him, and after he was gone, she was ready. Not many days later…

Lathspell said:

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Very common for couples who are together for that long.

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I can't give you any science behind it, but I can definitely see it with my parents.

They are both elderly and have had their health ups and down the last few years, especially my father. My mother's mental health and physical mobility definitely track my father's condition. I'm not saying it's going to be within days of each other, but I fully expect them to both go around the same time when it ultimately happens.

Yeah, not citing any studies, just going off anecdotal evidence I've seen in my life. I'm sure I've been told about at least 10-12 older couples this has happened to.

Fortunately for us, my grandmother in Colombia is my last remaining grandparent. She's survived a stroke, triple bypass, and colon cancer, is 86, and lost her husband of over 60 years in 2022. She's still kicking and strong of mind. Strange, because everytime we speak with her, she says that she's ready to go.

Yeah, in my experience, I tend to see it most frequently after massive intracranial hemorrhage.

Aust Ag said:

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True. Is there science behind this?

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My hometown historical society just posted an article from 1991 where a married couple of 60 some odd years passed away with in 20 hours of each other. He went first, then she passed with her (from the article, mind you) last words being something to the effect of "oh there you are." and then she was gone.

I'd like to read that if you are able to share.

phatbc said:

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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

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Takotsubo cardiomyopathy. Essentially a stress induced cardiomyopathy caused by a massive release of catecholamines (adrenaline) that causes myocardial stunning. It's called 'Takotsubo' because the condition leads to the heart resembling Japanese octopus traps.

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came here to post the same. Interestingly can happen after other major procedures like liver transplantation.

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Even more interestingly, it can also happen due to much more "minor" stressors. The most memorable example I can recall being a priest who hated Christmas so much that he keeled over in the middle of midnight Mass. (Don't worry, he didn't die.)

Both sets of grandparents lived to be married 60+ years, grandmother on one side outlived my grandfather by 10 years and my grandfather on the other side outlived my grandmother by 6 years.

What I've learned, on this thread, is the survivor must not have loved the deceased.

Sounds like you failed logic.

His parents were both pretty remarkable people, and I love how Conan spoke of their home life on his podcast.

From Ruth's obituary:
She was one of only four women in her law school class and was elected vice president of the student government.

Ruth was a law clerk to The Honorable Raymond Wilkins, Chief Justice of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court (1956-57), and a real estate attorney at the law firm Ropes & Gray in Boston (1957-58 and 1971-96). In 1978, she became the second woman to be a partner at the firm.

The same happened to a sweet older black couple who lived across the street from me. The husband died unexpectedly and three days later his wife passed. Very sad.

Man. I'm not a huge fan of Conan, but as someone with aging parents that is having to deal with the realization (health health issues, both my parents and in-laws) that I need to cherish every moment I can with them, I am sad.

No one is going to make it out of here alive.

It is incredible how much Conan looks like a combo of the two of them.