If you follow Timothee Chalamet on social, he posted some stuff about Wonka just yesterday. First I had heard of it and didn't see a thread on the board. Anyone know much else? Here's a link and pic.

https://instagr.am/p/CU3Cg6XIzAy

Origin story for Willy Wonka.

https://deadline.com/2021/05/timothee-chalamet-willy-wonka-warner-bros-1234762658/

Looks more like a bill the butcher origin story

I like Timothee Chalamet. I like Willy Wonka. However, they should never go together.

There's a pretty easy flow chart for Willie Wonka in movies. It goes like this?

Is Gene Wilder playing Willie Wonka?

• If yes, make the movie.
• If not, do not make the movie.

I'm assuming they are just making this in regards to keeping the copyright?

I haven't wanted to see any Willy Wonka movie that has been made since Wilder. 0 interest.

C@LAg said:

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Claude! said:

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There's a pretty easy flow chart for Willie Wonka in movies. It goes like this?

Is Gene Wilder playing Willie Wonka?

• If yes, make the movie.
• If not, do not make the movie.

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/end thread.

an origin story is rarely needed.

and one for Willy Wonka is most definitely not needed.

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I don't know... There is a lot to unwrap that could be solid on an origin story. Done right, it could be really interesting.

The problem is that it will be far too easy to screw up with few paths to success.

This reeks of that terrible Wizard of Oz prequel with James Franco. That, and I will never understand what people find endearing about the Willy Wonka character/world to begin with, even with Wilder in the role. The character comes across as a truly psychotic boss, gives off serious pedophile vibes, and the whole thing just gives me the willies.

Brad06ag said:

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C@LAg said:

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Claude! said:

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There's a pretty easy flow chart for Willie Wonka in movies. It goes like this?

Is Gene Wilder playing Willie Wonka?

• If yes, make the movie.
• If not, do not make the movie.

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/end thread.

an origin story is rarely needed.

and one for Willy Wonka is most definitely not needed.

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I don't know... There is a lot to unwrap that could be solid on an origin story. Done right, it could be really interesting.

The problem is that it will be far too easy to screw up with few paths to success.

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A character like Willy Wonka works best with the mystery of his past.

TCTTS said:

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This reeks of that terrible Wizard of Oz prequel with James Franco. That, and I will never understand what people find endearing about the Willy Wonka character/world to begin with, even with Wilder in the role. The character comes across as a truly psychotic boss, gives off serious pedophile vibes, and the whole thing just gives me the willies.

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Still a better person than Grampa Joe

I kind of want to know why he murders children in his factory.

They all lived, at least in the book.

Wonka propaganda.

The movie, at least, comes across as a demented fever dream in which the murdering of children is inexplicably left ambiguous. Willy Wonka legit creeps me out even more than Pennywise the clown.

Typical Hollywood lib. Sorry libertarians and capitalism scares you so much.
/S

TCTTS said:

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The movie, at least, comes across as a demented fever dream in which the murdering of children is inexplicably left ambiguous. Willy Wonka legit creeps me out even more than Pennywise the clown.

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Seriously? Other than the boat scene in the tunnel that gets a little "out there" never thought anything close to that.

Have never cared for either Wonka. Going with TC on this that they are just weird.

TXAG 05 said:

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TCTTS said:

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The movie, at least, comes across as a demented fever dream in which the murdering of children is inexplicably left ambiguous. Willy Wonka legit creeps me out even more than Pennywise the clown.

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Seriously? Other than the boat scene in the tunnel that gets a little "out there" never thought anything close to that.

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You at least know what you're getting with Pennywise. Yes, he wants to kill you, but you *know* he wants to kill you. Wonka, on the other hand, is an enigma. A literal stranger with candy. Who either murders children or is *pretending* to murder children. Who also owns a whole horde of little people dressed as clowns that he makes sing creepy songs and do creepy, choreographed dances at his Neverland-esque candy sweat shop (or "sweet" shop, if you will).

Super Unpopular opinion....

I like Gene Wilder, but I prefer the Johnny Depp Wonka movie.

But the kids aren't getting murdered. Never even given it thought that they could be. This is just wild to me.

Another Doug said:

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Super Unpopular opinion....

I like Gene Wilder, but I prefer the Johnny Depp Wonka movie.

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Super unpopular doesn't even begin to describe that take

Another Doug said:

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Super Unpopular opinion....

I like Gene Wilder, but I prefer the Johnny Depp Wonka movie.

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Damnit Doug, you just spared TCTTS from my brutal, unrelenting, throbbing, and dare I say, witty, mockery of his distaste for Wonka.

Control yourself woman! Or man! or whatever!

You know what, I'm not going to hold your beer! I'm drinking it. You deserve neither that beer, nor the others, which I'll be drinking too.

Sex Panther said:

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Another Doug said:

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Super Unpopular opinion....

I like Gene Wilder, but I prefer the Johnny Depp Wonka movie.

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Super unpopular doesn't even begin to describe that take

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I know. I think it my age. Being an 80's kids, early 70's poor production values just always creeped me out. I put watching the original in the same category as watching the Banana Splits.

I don't think the new one is great or anything, it's too long, but I really like that Depp just kinda acts like Michael Jackson, and I think it has some actual funny moments. So whenever I finished reading the book to one of my kids that is the one we would watch.

IMO, the best Dahl adaptation by far is Danny DeVito's Matilda .

The Tim Burton version is more faithful to the book than the Gene Wilder one, but there is so much Burton/Depp let's be weird for the sake of being weird, that it brings it down.

My baby brothers father in law is the guy who played Charlie in the original film. True story.

So Wonka is a pedo, and Cruella is a fashionista who likes puppies.

Mkay.

They are who they are!

Timothee Chalamet as Gonzo as Charles Dickens pic.twitter.com/XY4LW0BfRi

— Randy Renstrom (@RandyRenstrom) October 10, 2021

I feel so vindicated…

TCTTS said:

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I feel so vindicated…

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The funny bit is from 2:05 to 2:15