Entertainment
Sponsored by

Harper Lee's New Book

4,101 Views | 29 Replies | Last: 10 yr ago by cp2011
OldArmy71
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I first read To Kill a Mockingbird in 1961, when I was 12, and I have loved it ever since. I am sure that I did not understand much of what was going on between Mayella Ewell and Tom Robinson, but I grew up in a small Louisiana town much like Maycomb, and the parts of the book that dealt with Scout's relationships with her brother, with Dill, and with her neighbors rang very true to me.

When I grew up I was fortunate to be able to teach the book to ninth graders and to relive through them my own discovery of the book's greatness. We often remarked how odd yet fitting it was that the author had never published anything else.

It was with much trepidation that I learned that a new book by Harper Lee, Go Set a Watchman, would be published.

This early review in the New York Times pretty clearly says that the new book is not a prequel or sequel or anything like that; rather, it is an early draft of TKM that Harper Lee submitted to her publisher and represents Lee's novel in a stage before her editor convinced her to re-imagine the book in a more hopeful and redemptive way. I am aware that Lee was recently declared mentally competent, but I cannot believe that if she were entirely in her right mind she would have published this work, which according to the several reviews I have read has a much darker tone and much less emphasis on Scout's childhood, along with being told in third person rather than in Scout's voice.

Here is the review:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/11/books/review-harper-lees-go-set-a-watchman-gives-atticus-finch-a-dark-side.html?hpw&rref=books&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region®ion=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well

Go Set a Watchman might have some interest to scholars who want to see how a writer and editor reshape a book from a draft to a finished product, but it holds no interest for me.
Geriatric Punk
How long do you want to ignore this user?
So you are saying that you will not read it?

TKMB is the book that made me want to be a criminal defense lawyer. I quote it often. I think some may fear that this new work will some how detract from TKMB. I do not and am looking forward to reading it.

I've learned that if I avoid things condemned by critics, I miss out on a great number of amazing reads, watches, listens, and tastes.
The Milkman
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I was excited this morning to see the email from Amazon that my pre-ordered copy will be arriving tomorrow.
OldArmy71
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I do not believe the book is being "condemned" by critics--at least not yet--and that is not my point at all. The point of the article is that the book is not really a newly-discovered, independent work. It is a draft which the author herself believed needed to be transformed. As such, the book is to some degree being falsely promoted as a new, original work.

Now, I have a scholarly interest in such drafts, or at least I used to. Since I have retired from teaching, I am less interested in such things. There are so many other books to read.
Jacques
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
So you are saying that you will not read it?

TKMB is the book that made me want to be a criminal defense lawyer. I quote it often. I think some may fear that this new work will some how detract from TKMB. I do not and am looking forward to reading it.

I've learned that if I avoid things condemned by critics, I miss out on a great number of amazing reads, watches, listens, and tastes.


It's not just the critics here. There's good reason to believe Harper Lee would not really want this published. She's not really in a good frame of mind anymore.

Really, I think this book is going to expose to a large extent how well....uh... edited TKAM was.
HummingbirdSaltalamacchia
How long do you want to ignore this user?
All the "outrage" people are expressing is so crazy to me. So what that AF is a "racist"? as if making a character more human, with human frailties, detracts from the book? If anything, i think it enhances his character.

i just dont udnerstand all this backlash.
Squirrel Master
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
All the "outrage" people are expressing is so crazy to me. So what that AF is a "racist"? as if making a character more human, with human frailties, detracts from the book? If anything, i think it enhances his character.

i just dont udnerstand all this backlash.
Atticus Finch is one of the most iconic characters of all time, and represents more or less the ideal man. There is a reason that on the AFI movie list of 100 greatest heros and villains, he was #1, not some other 'traditional hero'.

He is utopia, personified. It's extremely understandable that lots of people will resent what is perceived as retroactively tearing down the dream.
Jacques
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
All the "outrage" people are expressing is so crazy to me. So what that AF is a "racist"? as if making a character more human, with human frailties, detracts from the book? If anything, i think it enhances his character.

i just dont udnerstand all this backlash.


You know how a theme from the book is it's a sin to kill a mockingbird? Lee's publisher and attorney just did that. And made one of the great heroes from literature a racist.
mrsbeer05
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I am looking forward to reading it as more of studying in writing. I find the fictional writing process amazing and am always interested in how an author got to the finished product. Growing up I identified with Scott, and she will also be one of my favorite characters and no different version/draft of TKAM will change that. However, I am interested to read this "new" story and see the early foundation for one of my favorite books.
MASAXET
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
quote:
All the "outrage" people are expressing is so crazy to me. So what that AF is a "racist"? as if making a character more human, with human frailties, detracts from the book? If anything, i think it enhances his character.

i just dont udnerstand all this backlash.
Atticus Finch is one of the most iconic characters of all time, and represents more or less the ideal man. There is a reason that on the AFI movie list of 100 greatest heros and villains, he was #1, not some other 'traditional hero'.

He is utopia, personified. It's extremely understandable that lots of people will resent what is perceived as retroactively tearing down the dream.
I understand that and appreciate the sentiment, but personally disagree. No one is utopia, and I would rather have an actual truer to life personification of the hero. Regardless, Atticus is modeled after her father, so I'll appreciate reading this version of him regardless of how he is portrayed because I would like to further see how Harper viewed him through her own eyes.

Hopefully we can have a some more of lil Truman Capote in there as well
Joan Wilder
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Remember too that much of the canonization of Atticus comes from the film version, which focused more on the trial. The book had much more of Scout's day to day life and observances in addition to the trial.

I feel this book is a draft that Lee and her editors rightfully edited to focus on Scout in the 30s. It doesn't sit well with me that it's being released after Lee's sister, who protected her and her interests for decades, died. Lee never meant to publish this draft. I don't think I'll read it - that really bothers me. She edited it for a reason and crafted a masterful book, that was about more than just Atticus Finch.
Cancelled
How long do you want to ignore this user?
This whole affair is downright funny. Atticus is now a racist...ha ha ha. Harper Lee, an American heroine, has now sullied the most noblest man in American Literature because some idiot wanted to make a buck.
amercer
How long do you want to ignore this user?
They could have at least done the decent thing and waited until she died to publish it. A lot of famous works have drafts, edits and back stories published posthumously.
Jacques
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
They could have at least done the decent thing and waited until she died to publish it. A lot of famous works have drafts, edits and back stories published posthumously.


They want it to look like she approved. Rumors now of a third book... No, really. There are.
et98
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I don't understand the uproar.

Characters in books are like characters on TV, movies, and plays. They can often be portrayed differently depending on the actor, the delivery, and changes in the context of the scene. One portrayal, even if it sucks or contradicts what you think it should be, doesn't negate the brilliance of the one you prefer.

Most stories are based on earlier stories. They often have the same characters (or similar characters with similar names), but he characters themselves are completely different. Movies routinely change characters' behavior and characteristics from those of the book that inspired the film. Regardless of how those character alterations affect the movie, the characters book remain unchanged.

What people need to realize is that Atticus Finch in To Kill A Mockingbird is not the same Atticus Finch in Go Set a Watchman. They are different characters entirely.
Bruce Almighty
How long do you want to ignore this user?
We're talking about fictional characters right? Getting upset over make believe people seems silly.
G Martin 87
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Clarke95 has it right. This "new" book is actually an earlier story that was rejected. Harper Lee's editor told her to take one of the bits involving Scout and try again. This one wasn't meant to be published, and it's only the greed of others that is pushing it out now.
95_Aggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I think a lot of people are upset that a lawyer is taking advantage of a senile person to make a quick buck. The author won't see any net improvement in her life by the publication of this book.

There's a reason this was never published while her sister was alive. I don't think HL wanted it published.
Waltonloads08
How long do you want to ignore this user?
The lawyers and publisher's see a chance to monetize the current racial climate. Here it is.


SeattleAgJr
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
The lawyers and publisher's see a chance to monetize the current racial climate. Here it is.



So what you are saying is... Thanks, Obama?
YouBet
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
The lawyers and publisher's see a chance to monetize the current racial climate. Here it is.



Yep. I will not be reading this book. It's clearly a money grab for people around HL.
COOL LASER FALCON
How long do you want to ignore this user?
While I think it's a money grab, I'm pretty confident the current racial climate didn't have anything to do with it. They just knew it would sell more copies if they could say she approved it.

I think I'm going to read it, but I'm going to try to keep an academic mind about it and really try not to tarnish TKAM.
DannyDuberstein
How long do you want to ignore this user?
It won't tarnish TKAM for me, but it does appear to be a sad moneygrab that I'm not going to contribute to.
BigTimeAlum
How long do you want to ignore this user?
This book represents a completely different view on the character. The first time through the eyes of a child who idolized her father. Most little girls think there Dad walks on water. The second view is through the eyes of a mature adult who all of a sudden see the frailities that are in their parents. Dad hasn't progressed as much as she wants.

This is a very good way to follow up on the original story and plays true in many father daughter relationships.

BigTimeAlum
How long do you want to ignore this user?
This board is overly sensitive to racial subjects.
Jacques
How long do you want to ignore this user?
quote:
This book represents a completely different view on the character. The first time through the eyes of a child who idolized her father. Most little girls think there Dad walks on water. The second view is through the eyes of a mature adult who all of a sudden see the frailities that are in their parents. Dad hasn't progressed as much as she wants.

This is a very good way to follow up on the original story and plays true in many father daughter relationships.


The problem, again, is that there's good reason to believe the author didn't want this published. And it's so poorly edited that it apparently has a different result in the trial.

If Lee ever did have designs on writing another book my guess is that the success of TKAM actually persuaded her not to release it. How could you top it?

It would be easier to accept this if she was younger, in a better frame of mind and on top of her affairs. But this feels rushed. Had she really wanted to release it she might have re-worked it. But this thing sat in a box for years untouched. I just think its incredibly unfair to the author and her legacy to present this as her work at this point.

The Atticus you know is the Atticus she wanted you to know. This new Atticus isn't.
G Martin 87
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I can't help thinking that a lot of posters here aren't grasping the crucial point that the "new" book is not a follow-up to TKAM. It's not even a first draft of TKAM, really. It's not a prequel either. It's more like an alternate universe, an early version of the characters which Harper Lee abandoned and re-imagined before writing TKAM.
OldArmy71
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Well said, G Martin.
Furlock Bones
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I won't be contributing to the money grab.
DannyDuberstein
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I think most understand the "alternate universe" factor, although I wouldn't be dismissive of considering it an early draft that she ultimately took a different direction.

My point is that (1) it does appear to put iconic characters in a much different light - alternate universe, early draft, prequel, sequel, whatever, (2) I think there is a reason Harper Lee never published it when she had her full faculties, and (3) it reeks of a hangers-on money grab.
cp2011
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Just finished it. I think one of the themes is oddly prevalent here in this thread. Namely, that even though you may choose not to see something or someone for what or who they really are doesn't diminish objective fact.

That some people are unwilling to read the book because they don't want to tarnish or "ruin" their perception of Atticus is admittedly a luxury afforded to us in our choice of literary pursuits, but just because you turn a blind eye doesn't mean it's not there.

Although I understand not wanting to support the "money grab" aspect, it's important to remember that this was Lee's original draft and I think it holds an important character study. Atticus, a giant in fictional history, had been described as the ideal southern gentleman and it's painful for us to see faults in him, but how often do we idolize sports figures or politicians only to be let down when we learn of their humanness?

With any novel, the author is free to create a character with no flaws and represent the ideal, but I for one applaud Lee's original effort. Especially in light of To Kill A Mockingbird Atticus, we are given a real person with whom we are free, and even invited to disagree. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Refresh
Page 1 of 1
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.