I have played vice city and really like it. I am tempted to buy San Andreas but would like to know if it is the exact same game in a different city or has there been improvements. Anybody?

SA has a much larger playing area.

The furthest you could drive in Vice City was from the sports arena to the lighthouse. How big is the new game compared to that?

SA has three whole cities, plus a pretty good of swath of open country between them.

So like 4 times the size of VC?

I'd say larger than that. The map is huge.

There's some (much) smaller towns in the countryside too.

There's also some weird things to drive - tractor, combine harvester, lawnmower. Nothing too exciting.

Nice selection of aircraft though.

Wow. Are the graphics and gameplay essentially just the same?

Due to a map that muchy longer are there that many more missions? I've got VC at 98% (sans the Firefighter and one other side mission)so I guess I'd be willing to take a spin with San Andreas. Any idea when it comes out on Xbox?

http://www.gtagaming.com/sanandreas/getting100

Yeah, the gameplay and graphics are about the same. I will say that I enjoyed the storyline in VC more. Never really got into the gang thing that drives SA.

I have only been playing SA for about 2 weeks and its definitely better. I think I read somewhere that the map is 5x bigger.

I agree that the gang thing sucks. I dont like being a black

other than that its pretty cool with a ton of features like the advanced driving school, ability to swim, the shooting is a lot better, and driving thru the open country is the best

it seems so real when you fly off the side of a mountain!

if you like vice city that much...dont even stress about buyin SA..... GET IT!

There are so many more missions and things to do in SA. The graphics are better IMO, and its at least 5x bigger. You have much more capacity. It makes VC look like a beginer game. Its worth it.

You can swim on SA.

What I don't like about SA is it is becoming like the Sims. It's funny to dress the guy in pimp outfits but trips to the gym, tatoo parlor, barber, and Cluckin' Bell are a bit too much.

"...young ni66az on the path throwin' up gang signs..."

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Just get Call of Duty and blow some sh*t up.

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All you have to do is aim for the gas tank in SA.

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I dont like being a black

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Nice. When I play Hillel's Angels, I can't stand being Jewish. Can't that have a biker gang game where you beat people up and steal crap without me having to be Jewish?

When I play Monopoly, it bothers me that the battleship is disproportionate to the other pieces.

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When I play Monopoly, it bothers me that the battleship is disproportionate to the other pieces.

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I always use the revolver from Clue.

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When I play Hillel's Angels, I can't stand being Jewish.

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I always use the revolver from Clue.

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When I play Clue, I always use a meatball. Nothing beats saying "the meatball in the conservatory with the pipe".

It is a better game than Vice City. I actually like the characters better though some of their catchphrases get really old. But you can't beat Samuel Jackson and Chris Penn as the two crooked cops. Some gameplay improvements are the weapons (you improve and can dual wield Uzis), swimming, AI, and soundtrack. I can't tell you how great that last one is. No more Flock of Seagulls! Plus, it supports surround sound and if you upgrade your cars bass, it improves in a tangible way. Finally, there are more minigames than you can name.

It's not perfect. It's not as big as some people are saying. I would put it at 3-3.5 times the size of Vice City. And the custom character parts get a little annoying. I have to watch my diet in real life. I don't want to in a video game. Graphically, part of me thinks that they reduced the draw distance to make up for the larger environment.

Still, it is worth your time.

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which one allows you to simulate the most eggregious violence towards women?

San Andres

Before you could only kill hookers. Now you can pass the "Pimping Mission" and a, um, female passenger will give you money while she is in the car.

There are also new fighting style that let you beat up people with new moves.