Any full-time farmers in the house?

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What do you grow? Where is your farm located?

Is farming still a viable business? Do you like the farming life, or do you want to move to a city?
FIDO*98*
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I'd post this on the Outdoor board if you are genuinely curious
vmiaptetr
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FIDO*98* said:

I'd post this on the Outdoor board if you are genuinely curious


I'll second this. There are some full-time farmers who post on the Outdoor board.
Aggie Dad 26
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Farmers? That's soon 1800s

Ranching? I'm listening
NoahAg
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I imagine the only people "making a living" farming are those who have inherited land that was passed down through generations. Not exactly something with a smooth barrier to entry.
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No, they are probably out in the field.
Jack Boyett
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I have a small farm in the panhandle. I've lost money for 3 years in a row now, but it seems to be a viable business for some. Corporate type farms and family farms that might as well be called corporate are buying land and investing millions. The rich are getting richer.
Corn Pop
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Work mostly with farmers in the panhandle. The few family farms left will be gone in the next decade if something drastic isn't done regarding operating expenses. The corporate farms continue to get richer though. The young guys that started preparing a few years ago are doing well. The guys that didn't pivot and stuck with their guns are in a real pickle.
Aggie Dad 26
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NoahAg said:

I imagine the only people "making a living" farming are those who have inherited land that was passed down through generations. Not exactly something with a smooth barrier to entry.


It also takes an incredible amount of land, implements, and rain
Claude!
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My cousin farmed and ranched in northern Oklahoma on family ground. Couldn't make it work - he rents most of the ground out now and has a few hobby cattle on the rest. Works as a sheriff's deputy.
Aggie Dad 26
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Another words...

200 acres ain't gonna cut it
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I posted this in on another thread awhile back and figured it is appropriate here.

In this day and age, if you want to be successful in Ag, you have to be progressive/efficient and actually learn how to market your commodities. If you are just hauling your crops to the elevator or your cattle to the sale barn and just taking that price, you are leaving money on the table. Most of the Farmers and Ranchers going out of business these days are the ones who do just that. I manage a grain company here in the Texas Panhandle so I see a lot of this stuff first hand.

People don't like hearing this but in AG, the big are just going to get bigger and the smaller are just going to get smaller. The big farmers are actively hedging their crops and putting on forward contracts two years out. They also get a better price on all of the inputs since they are buying so much. These guys are more businessmen than they are farmers.

Now the smaller farmers don't give a crap about learning how to be efficient or how to properly market their grain. Granted their land is paid off because it's been in the family for generations and so is their equipment since it's 20 years old. These farmers kids don't want to farm because they see how rough their parent's have had it and go off to work corporate jobs. Once the farmer retires he usually sells the land to one of the larger farmers since the smaller ones can't afford it.

The ranching side is mostly the same from what I have seen. The successful ranchers really put a lot of care and effort into their genetics and have a buyer set up for their calfs before they even hit the ground. They also invest a lot of time into herd and land management along with hedging. The small guys just throw them out in a pasture and feed them.
Ragnar Danneskjoldd
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StockHorseAg said:

I posted this in on another thread awhile back and figured it is appropriate here.

In this day and age, if you want to be successful in Ag, you have to be progressive/efficient and actually learn how to market your commodities. If you are just hauling your crops to the elevator or your cattle to the sale barn and just taking that price, you are leaving money on the table. Most of the Farmers and Ranchers going out of business these days are the ones who do just that. I manage a grain company here in the Texas Panhandle so I see a lot of this stuff first hand.

People don't like hearing this but in AG, the big are just going to get bigger and the smaller are just going to get smaller. The big farmers are actively hedging their crops and putting on forward contracts two years out. They also get a better price on all of the inputs since they are buying so much. These guys are more businessmen than they are farmers.

Now the smaller farmers don't give a crap about learning how to be efficient or how to properly market their grain. Granted their land is paid off because it's been in the family for generations and so is their equipment since it's 20 years old. These farmers kids don't want to farm because they see how rough their parent's have had it and go off to work corporate jobs. Once the farmer retires he usually sells the land to one of the larger farmers since the smaller ones can't afford it.

The ranching side is mostly the same from what I have seen. The successful ranchers really put a lot of care and effort into their genetics and have a buyer set up for their calfs before they even hit the ground. They also invest a lot of time into herd and land management along with hedging. The small guys just throw them out in a pasture and feed them.
Just finished reading a wendell berry book from 1977 and this was his premise all the way back then. Add to this, the equipment/techniques are developed to price out the small farmer over time. Ag colleges playing no small part in pushing out the small land farmers. Damn shame but I dont see how you put that genie back in the bottle. The loss of the agrarian lifestyle in the US is terrible for society.
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