I'm not sure why this article came out today. I saw kratom at a convenience store a couple of years ago but know little about it. Unfortunately a Texas Aggie engineer (link below) died about one year ago from kratom trying to legally deal with lifelong severe health issues.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kratom-ease-pain-anxiety-sometimes-013144814.html

From Chat GPT4 " Kratom dosages that are considered dangerous can vary depending on individual tolerance levels, the specific strain of kratom, and whether it's taken in combination with other substances. However, high doses of kratom can lead to several adverse effects, including:

1. Nausea
2. Dizziness
3. Sweating
4. Drowsiness
5. Increased heart rate
6. High blood pressure
7. Seizures
8. Respiratory depression
9. Liver toxicity

In extreme cases, very high doses of kratom can lead to overdose, which may be life-threatening. It's essential to be cautious and start with a low dose if you are trying kratom for the first time. The optimal dosage varies from person to person, but a typical starting dose is around 2-3 grams.

It's crucial to follow the dosing guidelines provided by reputable sources and to avoid taking excessive amounts of kratom. If you have concerns about kratom use or are experiencing any adverse effects, it's recommended to seek advice from a healthcare professional."

Studies have shown many products do not specify the potency and of course you may not realize that it is sometimes laced with fentanyl.

I am not advocating for its use and this is not medical advice.

Man. I had no idea this stuff existed. Unregulated substances like this are always a risk.

Sad. But sounds like he probably overdid it. And that it may be more complicated than "kratom is deadly."

A loved one has substance abuse and mental health problems. Got hooked on kratom. It's a bad deal.

I've been on a very high dosage of kratom for over six years. It ain't the kratom. In almost every "kratom death", fentanyl is also found in the system.

I have a hard time believing kratom would kill someone.

At higher doses, it causes similar issues to opioid overdoses (respiratory depression) by acting on mu receptors. Death from Kratom overdoses is a known complication, and treatment is identical to opioid overdoses (naloxone).

Interesting. I've known a few people that took pretty heavy doses. I wonder how much you have to take to potentially overdose.

If you're going to abuse a recreational drug, just stick with weed.

TheHappyCouch-potato said:

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If you're going to abuse a recreational drug, just stick with weed.

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Or booze

Ogre09 said:

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TheHappyCouch-potato said:

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If you're going to abuse a recreational drug, just stick with weed.

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Or booze

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Poison

What could possibly go wrong with convenience store supplements?

chimpanzee said:

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What could possibly go wrong with convenience store supplements?

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Horny Goat Weed says hi.

Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

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At higher doses, it causes similar issues to opioid overdoses (respiratory depression) by acting on mu receptors. Death from Kratom overdoses is a known complication, and treatment is identical to opioid overdoses (naloxone).

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Somewhat related, but I keep Narcan in my vehicle first aid kit. Anyone can buy it without a prescription now and its really easy to use. I think it's worth adding to a kit.

I've thought about doing that but had no idea it could be obtained without a prescription.

TheHappyCouch-potato said:

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If you're going to abuse a recreational drug, just stick with weed.

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Unless you're smoking it. Research is showing that smoking weed is associated with increased risk of heart attacks and strokes

wangus12 said:

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TheHappyCouch-potato said:

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If you're going to abuse a recreational drug, just stick with weed.

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Unless you're smoking it. Research is showing that smoking weed is associated with increased risk of heart attacks and strokes

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No, falling in love with a girl is what increases risk of The Strokes.