Whines and complains the whole game even though the Steelers got most of the calls.

Cried to the refs after the game.

Never shook hand with anybody from the Titans.

Never shook Jeff Fisher's hand after the game.

He was the same way last week in a win over the Browns.

Great game. I'm a Tommy Maddox fan; played summer hoops with him in Bedford, but I just can't stand crybaby whiny coaches like Bill Cowher - did you ever see Landry act that way???

whinin' crybabies of any sort need to be taken outside and taught a lesson.

i remember he said a bad word in the super bowl against the cowboys.

my virgin ears and eyes were heart.

whatever, bill cowher is a great coach who actually cares about his team.

This poor officiating nonsense is getting old really quick. The Hurricanes should be national champions, the Giants should have had another opportunity to kick the game winning field goal, and the Steelers should have continued playing overtime.

At least with the Steelers, the running into the kicker call was technically correct. However, if Nedney had not flopped, it probably would not have been called. Of course, the play could have unfolded differently if the Steelers would have been allowed to call timeout. Jason Gideon was told by a referee that they were out of timeouts, when in fact they had two remaining. Oh, and Cowher having to explain to the referee that a play was indeed reviewable was classic.

Texas Aggie '98
"Despite my privileged upbringing, I'm actually quite well-balanced. I have a chip on both shoulders."

Bill Cowher may be the biggest jerk in all of sports and that includes Mike Tyson, Spreewell and Iverson.

I agree with txag. How are you going to get mad at the coach when the officiating was as awful as it was and has been? What do want him to do? Accept a crappy call that very well could have cost them the game? And in the playoffs, none the less. I think it's time to stop coddling the officials and protecting them from any reprocussions for their calls. They have the only job in history where you can do awful and not have any punishment and possibly get rewarded for it(i.e. the official in the NC having two letters of apology written for his calls and still being there). It's a joke and something needs to be done.

plus bill cowher is anything but a crying whining baby. i've seen him sit there & admit that they reason why they lost a game was b/c they played poorly. that is a coach.

biggest jerk of all time in football is Romanaski (sp)

I give Cowher a lot of slack for yesterday's actions because this was no regular season game, this was for their chance to continue playing football this season.

There were several very questionable things that happened at the end of that game, and though he acted "classlessly", I can't blame him for being real pissed off.

I'll give you the officials really stunk. Geez, the Titans had some bad calls too. No reason to diss Fisher at the end of the game and run into the tunnel like a crybaby.

For all of you out there who like to criticize officials, I suggest that you contact your local association of officials, and come out to call some ball. Until then, BITE ME.

BTW, I fail to see how the "whole play would have turned out differently if the Steelers had been allowed to call timeout." Are you seriosly saying that the defensive player would not have run into the kicker if there had been a timeout? HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THAT? Are you psychic? You do not know that, nor will you ever. Oh, and you only get TWO timeouts in ovetime, not THREE[/b} as in regulat periods. The Steelers called a time out "1/100th of a second" before the first "try." They simply could not have TWO timeouts left.

Txagman, are you the mouthpiece for Cowher? And do you know what plays are reviewable? I do not, and I officiate football. I SERIOUSLY doubt that Cowher does... He doens't even know what running in to the kicker is! That was the right call, no doubt!

Alcoholics go to Meetings, Drunks go to Bars.

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For all of you out there who like to criticize officials, I suggest that you contact your local association of officials, and come out to call some ball. Until then, BITE ME.

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What a load of crap. We're not talking about HS or intramural refs here - these are NFL officials. Not to mention they are supposedly the best the NFL has to offer in the playoffs. I'll give you the running into the kicker penalty, although I think its a crappy rule. But the officiating in the NFL all year, especially the last two weeks has flat out sucked. There is no excuse for the officials not knowing the rules. The ending of the SF-NYG game was a joke. The fact that the official in the Titans/Steeler game last night had to wonder aloud whether the punt return/down by contact was a reviewable play is a joke. I don't blame Cowher for being pissed one bit. The league office had to apologize to the Steelers THREE times during the 2000 season for blowing calls that cost the Steelers the game.

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And do you know what plays are reviewable? I do not, and I officiate football. I SERIOUSLY doubt that Cowher does...

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I don't know what level that you officiate at, but the last time I checked it is an NFL referee's JOB to know what plays are reviewable and what plays aren't. I don't see how you can defend that.

Let's just call it Karma for all the times the Steelers got favorable calls against the Oilers over the last 25 years.

Renfro caught that ball inbounds!

Cowher "got away" with calling a TO just before Nedney kicked the first time, but the official has to recognize and give the TO before one is called. An official was looking @ the Steeler calling TO the second time and did not give it to him! The official chose not to grant the TO the second time. Officials sometimes get tired of coaching antics. This is one time the officials "spoke" without speaking and it blew up in Cowher's face. You take your chances waiting that late to call the TO. I don't blame Cowher for trying to manuever his team for a win, but what he did was a "high rist" manuever.

"It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man," Psalm 118:8.

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It is not the refs fault the Steelers lost. 1) It was running into the kicker, plain and simple. He did not take any extra steps as Cowher thinks he did. Hell, he was still standing on his plant foot when he was hit. Yeah, he did flop, but that is what a kicker is taught to do. 2) If you are going to call a timeout, make sure you are watching the play behind you. The Steelers player had his back to the play the entire time. And if you watch it in slow motion, there was only about a second between when he called it and when the ball was snapped. Now speed that up to real time and it is next to impossible for the ref to recognize the timeout and call it within ONE second.

Wadd, if you want to prove a point, try being mature about it. Bite me? What kind of basis for an argument is that. We all know you officiate, but you cant take people knocking on an official personally. Its part of the business. Every official in professional sports should know EVERY rule. That is their job.

"Gideon was told by a referee that they were out of timeouts, when in fact they had two remaining"

By whom? None of the officials say they did. And also, who the hell is Gideon? Someone telling an assistant they had no time outs left sure didnt' seem to stop Cower from trying to CALL A FRIGGIN' TIMEOUT!! This whole "the Steelers were told they didn't have any timeouts left" is b.s. because they tried to call one. AND....Cower tried to get cute and wait until the last possible second (like he did on the first attempt) and his players DIDN'T CALL IT IN TIME! Replays show a Steeler turning around and putting his hands in the 'T' the split second the play started. That's too damn little, too damn late. Boo-hoo. Call the friggin' timeout BEFORE THE PLAYERS ARE LINED UP MORON! Replays also show Cower waiting...waiting...waiting....waiting...and THEN calling a timeout right before the snap. Again, too damn little, too damn late. A better coach would have told the official near him "Look, I'm going to call a timeout so watch me...okay, here it comes...wait....okay, NOW! TIMEOUT!" Instead, he waited too long before calling it and the Steelers lost. If anyone's to blame, it's him.

And 'running into the kicker?' Does anyone honestly NOT think the Steeler ran into Nedney? If you don't, then you need some glasses. Sure, Nedney put a little into it, but the fact remains...he got ran into and that's a 5 yard penalty-replay 4th down.

The Steelers have no ground to stand on on any of their b.s. whining. They lost and they're trying to blame the officials (who called a great game, btw).

Amen Bill. The Steelers defense FAILED to stop the Titans from driving down field in O.T. and Cowher was using a high risk strategy with his timeouts. If you want to be sure you are going to get one call in further in advance. To employ such a risky strategy of timeout usage and then whine and throw a temper tantrum when it doesn't work is as child like as it is classless.

You get 3 timeouts in OT, when the player told the refs that they were going to call it just before the snap the ref told them they had none left (although it clearly said 2 left on the scoreboard)......These ref's need to open their eyes and learn the rules or get off the field.........Also, great acting job by the Titans kicker (as he even stated after the game), but at the same time he did just what your'e supposed to do as a kicker!

Does anyone have any proof to this myth that the ref told them they didnt have any left?

I read on ESPN, that Gildon (the Steelers player that called the timeout) is the one that said the official told them that they didnt have any left. I find this extremely hard to believe. A professional referee would not miss something like that. I think he is just covering his arse because he called it too late

unrelated to this, but the refs hosed the titans twice in the second half by calling 15yd penalties on tennessee for helmet to helmet contact where none took place.

Dave, let's leave the timeout nonsense out for a second and talk about the penalty.

Do you agree that the Steeler physically ran into Nedney?

Then it's a penalty. Not a 'half the distance automatic first down-roughing the kicker' penalty. Just a simple '5 yard-running into the kicker' penalty. So he flopped. He flopped AFTER getting ran into. His acting doesn't take away from the fact he was hit and that's a flag.

Now, the timout thing. That doesn't float because Cower and his team TRIED TO CALL A TIMEOUT. They were just too late. If they had been told they didn't have any timeouts left and they believed the phantom official who told them this, why would they have attempted to call one anyway? This 'no timeouts left' arguement doesn't make any sense. Cower's just a whinin' b**ch.

If Gildon's the Steeler who tried to call the timeout but was told they didn't have any left, then his arguement ALSO doesn't make sense.

If he was told BEFORE the play that they didn't have any left, why did he still try to call one?

If he was told AFTER the play that they didn't have any and that's why it wasn't given then watch the replay. Gildon is motioning for the timeout the SPLIT SECOND the lineman surge forward. That is too late, dude. You shoulda called it a few seconds earlier.

The Steelers have no legs to stand on in this.

"I saw a kicker who kicked the ball, had taken a couple of steps, and Dewayne sliding on the ground fell into him. For a game to be decided on that call is ludicrous. " What game was he watching? Nedney still had his plant foot in the ground and Dewayne never touched the ground before hitting Nedney. Cower....you're a putz.

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Plain and simple, the Steelers player ran into the kicker. End of discussion. Now about Cower's comments after the game, I understand that he is pissed that he lost the game, and at first thought he was retarded for saying what he did. But then I realized he doesn't have the luxury of instant replay and slow motion. Where was the flag when Eddie George got knocked out by Casey Hampton?

I agree with deep94.

Just imagine, the Oilers might be playing in Reliant Stadium now if those calls in the '70's had gone the right way.

Pittsburgh = classless!

I play hoops with Renfro and I always bug him about that call in '79. He says it wasn't even close.

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First off its a stretch to say that the Renfro call cost the Oilers the 79 AFC Champ game. The call was in the 3rd quarter, and only would have tied the game at 17 had it gone the other way. Not to mention the fact that the Oilers failed to score again the rest of the game, while the Steelers went on to score 10 additional points. So instead of a 27-13 final score, it would have been 27-17. You can argue they'd have had momentum, it sucked the wind out of them, etc., but the argument that the play cost them the game would of carried a lot more weight had the final deficit been 7 points or less.

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No they wouldn't. One thing it wouldn't have changed is that Bud Adams is a $*&%# and he ultimately would have left town anyway. Houston is a lot better off with the Texans and McNair.

Typical Pittsburgh apologist.

As a Cowboy and (former) Oiler fan, I hate all things Pittsburgh.

Good point, Flounder. Who knows what would have happened??

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As a Cowboy and (former) Oiler fan, I hate all things Pittsburgh.

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Again, had the final score been seven points or less, I say you have a legitimate gripe. But the fact that the final score even with the touchdown was a 10 point deficit, severely damages the argument. As far as Saturday nights game goes, the Steelers lost plain and simple. They had plenty of chances to win the game and didn't get it done. The running into the kicker penalty was legit, and had they taken care of business in regulation, they wouldn't have to worry about it.

And if you were such a great Oiler fan, how the hell could you change allegiances to the Cowboys. The majority of the hardcore Oiler fans that I knew DESPISED the Cowboys.

I had the benefit of not living in Houston or Dallas. I loved all things Texan with the exception of the orange scourge in Austin. and I loved the Oilers until Bud Adams tried to hold the city hostage.

I was *really* wanting an all-Texas Super Bowl that year.


And Pittsburgh still sucks ass.

Weighing in on yesterday's officiating:

1. The Titans got the shaft on several calls late in the 4th quarter... such is life.

2. Running into the kicker is just that - running into the kicker. That's exactly what happened and it was exactly the right call. The kicker flops in an effort to get it upgraded to roughing. Even if he had stayed up, it was still running into the kicker.

3. Telling the ref "Hey, I'm going to want a timeout" is not calling a timeout. Replay clearly showed that the handmotion was not made until about 1/100th of a second before the snap. When you cut it that close, don't gripe.

All that being said, I don't blame Bill Cowher for any of his actions. He was wrong, but he was standing up for his team and that's what he's supposed to do.

What ticked me off was all the know-it-all comentators - on every freaking network - talking about the botched officiating in overtime when the officiating in overtime was absolutely flawless. Gentlemen, watch the tape before you open your mouth.

that is all...