More than likely stole it from that.
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A box full of hornets or bees would be awesome.
quote:Theft is not a minor infraction. Dog treats is minor loot, but I guarantee she wasn't hoping to score $10 worth of dog treats with this theft. And I highly doubt she doesn't make a habit of this, stealing anything and everything boxed on peoples' porches. Realizing you're in the wrong lane and changing lanes before a stop light and getting popped for hundreds of dollars like my mom recently did is a minor infraction. Riding dirty with a one month expired registration sticker is minor. Theft of mail is often times a felony...not minor.quote:
but in general, they are useless at anything other than slapping good honest tax paying people with outrageously high fines for relatively minor infractions.
Like stealing a box of dog treats?
quote:You keep focusing on the fact it was dog treats, but she didn't know it what it was when she stole it. It could have been an iphone or medicine for all she knew. She doesn't get credit for taking something with almost no value when she had no idea what she was stealing.quote:
but in general, they are useless at anything other than slapping good honest tax paying people with outrageously high fines for relatively minor infractions.
Like stealing a box of dog treats?
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In y'alls opinion, If police spend more time going after small crime like this vs. hiding out looking for speeders, would we be better off?
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Shut up, 07
I expect more from a nice guy.
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In y'alls opinion, If police spend more time going after small crime like this vs. hiding out looking for speeders, would we be better off?
Absolutely.
Speeding isn't a big deal unless you're doing so recklessly. Merely going 75 in a 65 isn't inherently dangerous.
Thievery is.
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In y'alls opinion, If police spend more time going after small crime like this vs. hiding out looking for speeders, would we be better off?
Absolutely.
Speeding isn't a big deal unless you're doing so recklessly. Merely going 75 in a 65 isn't inherently dangerous.
Thievery is.
Just out of curiousity, how is stealing something more inherently dangerous than operating a vehicle over the posted speed limit?
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It's also ironic that the severity of the thievery/value of what is stolen is irrelevant, yet it's OK to go just 10 mph over the speed limit.
If you think stealing is stealing no matter what it is then you should be OK with tickets for going 10 mph over.
quote:Jesus, shut the **** up.
It's also ironic that the severity of the thievery/value of what is stolen is irrelevant, yet it's OK to go just 10 mph over the speed limit.
If you think stealing is stealing no matter what it is then you should be OK with tickets for going 10 mph over.
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It's also ironic that the severity of the thievery/value of what is stolen is irrelevant, yet it's OK to go just 10 mph over the speed limit.
If you think stealing is stealing no matter what it is then you should be OK with tickets for going 10 mph over.
quote:What you are not taking into account is the intent. She walked onto someone's private property and took a delivery box she thought would have valuables in it.
It's also ironic that the severity of the thievery/value of what is stolen is irrelevant
quote:My bullet travels faster than a car.quote:quote:
In y'alls opinion, If police spend more time going after small crime like this vs. hiding out looking for speeders, would we be better off?
Absolutely.
Speeding isn't a big deal unless you're doing so recklessly. Merely going 75 in a 65 isn't inherently dangerous.
Thievery is.
Just out of curiousity, how is stealing something more inherently dangerous than operating a vehicle over the posted speed limit?
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Again, if it's just dog treats WGAS. If it's a TV then it's worth pursuing. I value my time and efforts more than I value a box of treats.
quote:Stealing and 10 mph over the speed limit is are both wrong. Hard to argue that one. If you get caught you get caught.quote:quote:quote:
In y'alls opinion, If police spend more time going after small crime like this vs. hiding out looking for speeders, would we be better off?
Absolutely.
Speeding isn't a big deal unless you're doing so recklessly. Merely going 75 in a 65 isn't inherently dangerous.
Thievery is.
Just out of curiousity, how is stealing something more inherently dangerous than operating a vehicle over the posted speed limit?
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that thievery is inherently dangerous. Merely that it's something that if the police spend more time trying to stop or catch thieves for punishment society would be better off.
quote:I'll bite. Plain vanilla thievery more inherently dangerous than a plain vanilla act speeding. Both can be more of less dangerous depending on the circumstances, but the use of deadly force is allowed to defend property. This is a common thing. Using deadly force to stop someone from speeding is rare and really only done by law enforcement. In other words, the chances you will get shot are much higher if you like to steal than if you like to speed using the example above i.e. 10 mph over the limit or a simply theft.quote:quote:quote:
In y'alls opinion, If police spend more time going after small crime like this vs. hiding out looking for speeders, would we be better off?
Absolutely.
Speeding isn't a big deal unless you're doing so recklessly. Merely going 75 in a 65 isn't inherently dangerous.
Thievery is.
Just out of curiousity, how is stealing something more inherently dangerous than operating a vehicle over the posted speed limit?
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that thievery is inherently dangerous. Merely that it's something that if the police spend more time trying to stop or catch thieves for punishment society would be better off.
quote:Take your interpretations and shove em up your stupid hairy ass.
Maybe I'm reading what I bolded wrong, but that came across as an "OMG I got a speeding ticket. Shouldn't you be out catching thieves or muders?" If that's the case then what do you want? A cop on every corner or every doorstep. Can't predict where those will happen.
quote:quote:I'll bite. Plain vanilla thievery more inherently dangerous than a plain vanilla act speeding. Both can be more of less dangerous depending on the circumstances, but the use of deadly force is allowed to defend property. This is a common thing. Using deadly force to stop someone from speeding is rare and really only done by law enforcement. In other words, the chances you will get shot are much higher if you like to steal than if you like to speed using the example above i.e. 10 mph over the limit or a simply theft.quote:quote:quote:
In y'alls opinion, If police spend more time going after small crime like this vs. hiding out looking for speeders, would we be better off?
Absolutely.
Speeding isn't a big deal unless you're doing so recklessly. Merely going 75 in a 65 isn't inherently dangerous.
Thievery is.
Just out of curiousity, how is stealing something more inherently dangerous than operating a vehicle over the posted speed limit?
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that thievery is inherently dangerous. Merely that it's something that if the police spend more time trying to stop or catch thieves for punishment society would be better off.
On top of that, society itself judges how dangerous a particular act is if you just look at the punishment associated with each crime. 10mph over the limit is always going to be a class C misdemeanor (setting aside extenuating circumstances like DWI or reckless driving). A simple theft can easily reach felony levels a bunch of different ways. For example, a 3rd theft conviction regardless of value, theft from person (i.e. purse snatching), theft where the value is greater than $1500, theft of a motor vehicle, etc.
AND the crime of theft is legally considered a crime of "moral turpitude." This means you have bad character. You can be cross examined in any court about your past crimes of moral turpitude so the jury/judge can know about your character. A theft conviction can prevent you from landing a job or cause you to lose a current one.
TLDR -- simple theft is much worse than a simple speeding according to the laws of the society we live in and common sense.
quote:Not only this, but from my experience, even if they do recover stolen property, they do not return it to the owner no matter how much you hound them.quote:Take your interpretations and shove em up your stupid hairy ass.
Maybe I'm reading what I bolded wrong, but that came across as an "OMG I got a speeding ticket. Shouldn't you be out catching thieves or muders?" If that's the case then what do you want? A cop on every corner or every doorstep. Can't predict where those will happen.
We absolutely should demand some sort of response from HPD on property crimes. Their current official policy is this: "Too ****ing bad, we don't care, but if you hound us long and persistently enough, and axe us nicely enough and say pretty please with sugar on top, we may give you a case number so you can file an insurance claim."
I'm assuming you and Ag07 are out stealing packages right now. Try not to get your commie asses rained on.
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I'm assuming you and Ag07 are out stealing packages right now. Try not to get your commie asses rained on.