Again, Ezekiel was already slowly moving that direction...like Morgan.aTmAg said:So Ezekiel wasn't convinced that they needed to fight the Saviors after Ben was killed, but instead went home, got another cantaloupe, and delivered it to the saviors the next day. It took Morgan killing Richard with his bare hands (while everybody watched like it was a game of cards) and outing Richard's entire plan that finally convinced him?Gigem314 said:I thought it did. Losing the kid finally broke Morgan. He trained him and taught him. It was the closest he'd been to anyone since losing his son. He was killed needlessly. Morgan had already been flirting with ditching his pacifist mentality. That pushed him over the edge.aTmAg said:
That Morgan story line made no sense.
I'm glad he finally broke. His character was boring.
So Ezekiel had to think: "Thanks Morgan for exposing Richard's plot to trick me into starting a war. I guess that means I should start a war now!"
Gigem314 said:Again, Ezekiel was already slowly moving that direction...like Morgan.aTmAg said:So Ezekiel wasn't convinced that they needed to fight the Saviors after Ben was killed, but instead went home, got another cantaloupe, and delivered it to the saviors the next day. It took Morgan killing Richard with his bare hands (while everybody watched like it was a game of cards) and outing Richard's entire plan that finally convinced him?Gigem314 said:I thought it did. Losing the kid finally broke Morgan. He trained him and taught him. It was the closest he'd been to anyone since losing his son. He was killed needlessly. Morgan had already been flirting with ditching his pacifist mentality. That pushed him over the edge.aTmAg said:
That Morgan story line made no sense.
I'm glad he finally broke. His character was boring.
So Ezekiel had to think: "Thanks Morgan for exposing Richard's plot to trick me into starting a war. I guess that means I should start a war now!"
I think the other significance of this with Ben is that he represents the future, which is why Ezekiel has avoided conflict as much as possible. He may not have turned after Ben's death, but it put him on the edge. I also think seeing Morgan (the truest believer in non-violence) kill Richard, put him over the edge.
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Again, Ezekiel was already slowly moving that direction...like Morgan.
I think the other significance of this with Ben is that he represents the future, which is why Ezekiel has avoided conflict as much as possible. He may not have turned after Ben's death, but it put him on the edge. I also think seeing Morgan (the truest believer in non-violence) kill Richard, put him over the edge.
DannyDuberstein said:
Anyone sporting tight Steven Tyler-esque leather pants is probably going to have such a terrible case of swamp ass that the walkers will probably leave you alone. No jacket or helmet necessary.
Aggie Joe 93 said:
There has not been any scene in the Walking Dead to date that is as pointless, tired, and forced as the consistent show bashing on this thread. Y'all are worse than Rosita.
King was most likely convinced when Ben was killed, he just wasn't ready to start the war yet. Hell, he even said to Carol at the end that they needed to fight 'but not today'. Remember, he's not a seasoned leader, just the guy who had a tiger and wanted to pretend and found people willing to pretend with him. They just kept on pretending once they realized it gave them enough structure to build a safe home base.
The complaints of imperfect armor/clothing is funny. So the best solution is to wear something that would cause you to lose hydration faster than you can replenish it? I don't think I'd be the only one stepping over the leather and duct taped corpses because I'm ready to just stay alert and defend myself from walkers that I can hear and see coming way in advance. At least when y'all died of dehydration, you'll be kind enough to give me great targets for head shots or be zombies behind helmets and face screens so you can't bite anyone else.
(The CGwhy deer last episode is giving y'all a run for your money though.). :-)
I remember a guy once, Johnny I-Forget-His-Name. Wore two helmets, two flak jackets and armored underwear. In the Zombie Apocalypse, when your time is up, your time is UP.bonfarr said:
My armor in a post Apocalypse zombie world is a tight motorcycle leather jacket and leather pants, boots and gloves, football neck roll topped with a motorcycle helmet with face shield. All exposed seams would be sealed with duct tape.
I'll risk sounding really ignorant and ask: why would shooting the driver of the second vehicle in a convoy be more effective than the first? I'm curious.Quote:
For dealing with the Saviors... I recall reading a story about the Vietnam war where the VC had a sniper who would only shoot the driver of the second vehicle in a convoy. Very effective.
I'm guessing that after about 2 or 3 times, good luck finding a driver willing to sit in vehicle #2.H6RBW said:I'll risk sounding really ignorant and ask: why would shooting the driver of the second vehicle in a convoy be more effective than the first? I'm curious.Quote:
For dealing with the Saviors... I recall reading a story about the Vietnam war where the VC had a sniper who would only shoot the driver of the second vehicle in a convoy. Very effective.
H6RBW said:I'll risk sounding really ignorant and ask: why would shooting the driver of the second vehicle in a convoy be more effective than the first? I'm curious.Quote:
For dealing with the Saviors... I recall reading a story about the Vietnam war where the VC had a sniper who would only shoot the driver of the second vehicle in a convoy. Very effective.
H6RBW said:I'll risk sounding really ignorant and ask: why would shooting the driver of the second vehicle in a convoy be more effective than the first? I'm curious.Quote:
For dealing with the Saviors... I recall reading a story about the Vietnam war where the VC had a sniper who would only shoot the driver of the second vehicle in a convoy. Very effective.
