We continue to suck in spite of everything else.
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I'm not saying who I think is a better coach, but...
Hugh Freeze ineheirted a 2-10 team that not only went winless in conference, but lost by an average of 24+ points in SEC play.
The 2011 team lost to Vandy by 23. They lost to Kentucky by 27.
In football, not basketball.
Took over a 2-10 team and won 7 games, then 8 games, then 9 games and now has a chance to win a 10th this year. In the last two seasons his team has still been in contention for the SEC title in mid-November.
Sumlin took over a 7-6 team and won 11 games, 9 games, 8 games and now has a chance to win a 9th this year. In his first season his team was in SEC title contention up until the last week of the season (someone correct me if I'm wrong there), but then we were out of title contention by October in the following 3 seasons.
I'm not saying Freeze is a better coach, but I don't think there's any doubt who shows to be trending up.
quote:Plus those losses were to-
For the record, that 7-5 Tennessee team finished the regular season 8-4.
quote:plus the blind side.....
I have to wonder how much being a HS coach for years before going the college route has to do with recruiting??
Seems to me a well-known HS coach has personal relationships with his fellow coaches that he can tap to jump start recruiting...at least for the first few years. Also has some familiarity with the players themselves.
quote:Yeah but they made Freeze look like a doofus in that film. Sandra Bullock was a better coach.quote:plus the blind side.....
I have to wonder how much being a HS coach for years before going the college route has to do with recruiting??
Seems to me a well-known HS coach has personal relationships with his fellow coaches that he can tap to jump start recruiting...at least for the first few years. Also has some familiarity with the players themselves.
quote:they made him look almost feminine. But my point is, he learned "the recruiting game" from Ed Orgeron. He was hired originally specifically to lure Ohr.quote:Yeah but they made Freeze look like a doofus in that film. Sandra Bullock was a better coach.quote:plus the blind side.....
I have to wonder how much being a HS coach for years before going the college route has to do with recruiting??
Seems to me a well-known HS coach has personal relationships with his fellow coaches that he can tap to jump start recruiting...at least for the first few years. Also has some familiarity with the players themselves.
quote:shut up
Recruits have confidence in Hugh Freeze and the direction the program is headed. They get kids and their parents to campus and its beautiful, friendly, and feels like family. Nobody except an occasional drunk frat boy is unhappy with the staff there. When a kid comes to us it feels like a dumpster fire. Everybody pissed at coaches, big ,sprawling, unfriendly campus. Arrogant, defensive coaching staff....feels like a program on the way down. We accuse everyone of cheating, we call other coaches in our own state slime balls . We criticize everybody for having an easy schedule if they are winning, we are hung up on the goings on of a team that we don't even play anymore, delimit admissions to the robotics and debate clubs.What do you expect from an 18 y/o point of view?
quote:That's how Malzahn got into the college ranks too. Part of the package with a highly rated recruit. Nutt had no choice but to hire him at Arkansas. Disaster ensued.quote:they made him look almost feminine. But my point is, he learned "the recruiting game" from Ed Orgeron. He was hired originally specifically to lure Ohr.quote:Yeah but they made Freeze look like a doofus in that film. Sandra Bullock was a better coach.quote:plus the blind side.....
I have to wonder how much being a HS coach for years before going the college route has to do with recruiting??
Seems to me a well-known HS coach has personal relationships with his fellow coaches that he can tap to jump start recruiting...at least for the first few years. Also has some familiarity with the players themselves.
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Recruits have confidence in Hugh Freeze and the direction the program is headed. They get kids and their parents to campus and its beautiful, friendly, and feels like family. Nobody except an occasional drunk frat boy is unhappy with the staff there. When a kid comes to us it feels like a dumpster fire. Everybody pissed at coaches, big ,sprawling, unfriendly campus. Arrogant, defensive coaching staff....feels like a program on the way down. We accuse everyone of cheating, we call other coaches in our own state slime balls . We criticize everybody for having an easy schedule if they are winning, we are hung up on the goings on of a team that we don't even play anymore, delimit admissions to the robotics and debate clubs.What do you expect from an 18 y/o point of view?
quote:Jeebus! You can be insufferable at times. The Blind Side reference was about Freeze being a HS coach and how that aided in his recruiting pipelines. Further, it was said in jest.
....and that from a guy who credits Ole Miss success to "The Blind Side"....although I do agree with your assessment that he is not managing his players and that we are not physical enough to play in this conference. Some of that comes from the air show that has taken over Texas high school football,we don't develop linemen, but it still falls back on the leader at the top for not finding and managing the right guys
quote:I actually have an 18y/o, a 21y/o, and 25 y/o....all boys....two in college and one grad.quote:
Recruits have confidence in Hugh Freeze and the direction the program is headed. They get kids and their parents to campus and its beautiful, friendly, and feels like family. Nobody except an occasional drunk frat boy is unhappy with the staff there. When a kid comes to us it feels like a dumpster fire. Everybody pissed at coaches, big ,sprawling, unfriendly campus. Arrogant, defensive coaching staff....feels like a program on the way down. We accuse everyone of cheating, we call other coaches in our own state slime balls . We criticize everybody for having an easy schedule if they are winning, we are hung up on the goings on of a team that we don't even play anymore, delimit admissions to the robotics and debate clubs.What do you expect from an 18 y/o point of view?
Do you know many 18 year olds? That is not at all the feed back I have ever gotten about A&M. I think you are conflating the Zoo w/ A&M as a whole & some idealized Ole Miss.
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