quote:fify
Time for Johnny to get out of Cleveland.
quote:quote:It's simple. Johnny sucked last year and didn't take his job seriously. Pettine giving Johnny another chance was contingent upon him going to rehab and taking it seriously. Getting drunk in public shows that the rehab was a sham. Hence the benching. This has nothing to do with a player being a role model, or "ESPN's agenda". This is a coach holding a player accountable. Pettine may be a ****ty coach, but he's right on this.
Nope. Just someone who doesn't give a **** what people do off the field. Just like I don't care about Greg Hardy (along with everyone else until the pictures came out). I watch football because it is fun to watch. I don't give a **** what they do in their spare time. Anyone who looks up to players as role models is the real schmuck, 98% of these players are ahole Prima Donnas. But the sanctimonious wet spots here only get mad at the players that ESPN's agenda sets for y'all.
quote:What part of "getting drunk in public shows that the rehab was a sham" do you not understand?quote:He went to a club 2 weeks before the next game, this is not like last year where he was out the night before a game. Oh and by the way he just finished his best statistical game in the NFL and had the 2nd best QBR that week. If you can't tell a difference then I'm sorry because such stupidity is terminal.
It's simple. Johnny sucked last year and didn't take his job seriously. Pettine giving Johnny another chance was contingent upon him going to rehab and taking it seriously. Getting drunk in public shows that the rehab was a sham. Hence the benching. This has nothing to do with a player being a role model, or "ESPN's agenda". This is a coach holding a player accountable. Pettine may be a ****ty coach, but he's right on this.
quote:way to skip the question, I'll offer it again. Is his choice house arrest or Canadian football?quote:When you go to rehab for drugs, you don't have the option to just switch to alcohol. To maintain sobriety, you have to stay off both.
I'm guessing that he went to rehab for drugs and alcohol was never that big of an issue.
quote:The question is irrelevant, because it is based on the false premise that the offense was insignificant.quote:way to skip the question, I'll offer it again. Is his choice house arrest or Canadian football?quote:When you go to rehab for drugs, you don't have the option to just switch to alcohol. To maintain sobriety, you have to stay off both.
I'm guessing that he went to rehab for drugs and alcohol was never that big of an issue.
quote:Remeber, guilty until proven innocent.
What am I missing? You can't go out on a bye weekend? He's JFF, people are going to film and document everything, but did he actually do something wrong (drugs, dui, etc)?
quote:Browns season ticket owner...
If I was a Browns season ticket owner I would be furious that they aren't playing the best quarterback.
quote:quote:What part of "getting drunk in public shows that the rehab was a sham" do you not understand?quote:He went to a club 2 weeks before the next game, this is not like last year where he was out the night before a game. Oh and by the way he just finished his best statistical game in the NFL and had the 2nd best QBR that week. If you can't tell a difference then I'm sorry because such stupidity is terminal.
It's simple. Johnny sucked last year and didn't take his job seriously. Pettine giving Johnny another chance was contingent upon him going to rehab and taking it seriously. Getting drunk in public shows that the rehab was a sham. Hence the benching. This has nothing to do with a player being a role model, or "ESPN's agenda". This is a coach holding a player accountable. Pettine may be a ****ty coach, but he's right on this.
Do you know anything about rehab?
quote:quote:The question is irrelevant, because it is based on the false premise that the offense was insignificant.quote:way to skip the question, I'll offer it again. Is his choice house arrest or Canadian football?quote:When you go to rehab for drugs, you don't have the option to just switch to alcohol. To maintain sobriety, you have to stay off both.
I'm guessing that he went to rehab for drugs and alcohol was never that big of an issue.
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You Manziel apologists are the worst. The guy is a train wreck. Thanks for the memories but he's become an absolute embarrassment. "Oh but it's just because he's Johnny... Oh nothing everyone else isn't doing... Oh He's a sports star not a role model... Oh b-b-b-but he's an Aggie!!"
The last bit of BS kills me the most. He was/is true face of our program and, for better or worse, a role model for a lot of kids growing up in Texas. It's just how it is in this state. He has unequivocally lost all of my respect with the disaster that has unfolded in the last 3 years. He had every chance in the world to make good and can't figure it out.
I'm done.
quote:Amen!
Nope. Just someone who doesn't give a **** what people do off the field. Just like I don't care about Greg Hardy (along with everyone else until the pictures came out). I watch football because it is fun to watch. I don't give a **** what they do in their spare time. Anyone who looks up to players as role models is the real schmuck, 98% of these players are ahole Prima Donnas. But the sanctimonious wet spots here only get mad at the players that ESPN's agenda sets for y'all.
quote:quote:He is not a "sports star". He is a celebrity that is on a sports team.
You Manziel apologists are the worst. The guy is a train wreck. Thanks for the memories but he's become an absolute embarrassment. "Oh but it's just because he's Johnny... Oh nothing everyone else isn't doing... Oh He's a sports star not a role model... Oh b-b-b-but he's an Aggie!!"
The last bit of BS kills me the most. He was/is true face of our program and, for better or worse, a role model for a lot of kids growing up in Texas. It's just how it is in this state. He has unequivocally lost all of my respect with the disaster that has unfolded in the last 3 years. He had every chance in the world to make good and can't figure it out.
I'm done.
quote:Wow, never thought I would live to see the day that anyone respected baylor enough to call them a rival. When I was in school we called them our ******!
If Johnny wasn't an Aggie (and the phenomenal college football player that he was) and played for a rival school (e.g., Baylor), many of us, if not all, would be giddy watching him crash and burn.
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You Manziel apologists are the worst. The guy is a train wreck. Thanks for the memories but he's become an absolute embarrassment. "Oh but it's just because he's Johnny... Oh nothing everyone else isn't doing... Oh He's a sports star not a role model... Oh b-b-b-but he's an Aggie!!"
The last bit of BS kills me the most. He was/is true face of our program and, for better or worse, a role model for a lot of kids growing up in Texas. It's just how it is in this state. He has unequivocally lost all of my respect with the disaster that has unfolded in the last 3 years. He had every chance in the world to make good and can't figure it out.
I'm done.
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Amen!
Now all the talking heads on ESPN keep bringing up this "face of a franchise" crap. The face of the franchise should be determined by accomplishments on the field. It's like they forget that this is about entertainment and not living a PC life.
Meanwhile, all of Congress can go out and party balls any night of the week.
GM's, and owners want a wallflower guy to make them feel safe about their high dollar draft picks. Guess what? The real risk is in injury.
It's beyond dumb to pay so much for a guy and then not give him a shot at the entire season. If he falls back into his first year ways, trade him.
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You Manziel apologists are the worst. The guy is a train wreck. Thanks for the memories but he's become an absolute embarrassment. "Oh but it's just because he's Johnny... Oh nothing everyone else isn't doing... Oh He's a sports star not a role model... Oh b-b-b-but he's an Aggie!!"
The last bit of BS kills me the most. He was/is true face of our program and, for better or worse, a role model for a lot of kids growing up in Texas. It's just how it is in this state. He has unequivocally lost all of my respect with the disaster that has unfolded in the last 3 years. He had every chance in the world to make good and can't figure it out.
I'm done.
The guy got drafted by the Browns, their last 20 have been train wrecks. I am a Johnny apologist because he hasn't done anything bad (outside of possibly hitting his girlfriend which I would have big issue with.)
quote:I don't think Johnny is an alcoholic. He's not showing up to the facility drunk. He's not drinking every day- getting DUIs. He's addicted to the party. The Scene. The center of attention. Some guys can't sit at home on a Thurs/Friday/Saturday night. Some guys just can't do it. My college roommate at A&M was one of those guys.
As an alcoholic, I understand exactly where Johnny is in his stage. Its hard to quit until one has that sudden event in their life. Sadly, most alcoholics never do recover. Hope JF has that upheaval.
