Yeah I don't really understand you taking this on steve. I think it really needs to drop. Promising to raise the returned funds at this point is ridiculous. As for the 4000 amount I would hope it goes to the right place but I have real doubts and have just chalked it up as another loss of trusting others to do right but not which has happened plenty of times before. Which is one of the positive sides of crowd funding being that the inherent risk is spread out. I hope barnes gets his **** together in the end but there is no point in trying to make up the 2500 difference