***********2023-2024 San Antonio Spurs Thread********************

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9:52a, 10/26/23
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Hopefully Julian can show enough to take Doug's spot by the later half of the season
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In reply to TheNotoriousP.I.P. • 11:38a, 10/26/23
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TheNotoriousP.I.P. said:
Hopefully Julian can show enough to take Doug's spot by the later half of the season


Doug's scouting report on the leaked Mavs document: ATTACK HIM
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In reply to MookieBlaylock • 12:50p, 10/26/23
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MookieBlaylock said:
Spurs looked like an up and coming team- Dallas looks like a perennial 8 seed

Refs making it about them is the most NBA thing ever
Line was Mavs -4.5

You sure the refs were making it about them?
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2:48p, 10/26/23
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Chet got his ankles broken by .... ANDRE DRUMMOND.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 3:21p, 10/26/23
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Guitarsoup said:



Chet got his ankles broken by .... ANDRE DRUMMOND.


NBD, I've seen Wemby get his ankles broken, too.

Of course it was by a guard, not a center, and Vic recovered to block the guy's shot at the rim on the same play instead of collapsing in an embarrassed heap on the floor.

Still, pretty much the same.
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5:56p, 10/26/23
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Players-only meeting after 1 game?

2 seconds and Graham for Caruso.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 6:10p, 10/26/23
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Guitarsoup said:



Players-only meeting after 1 game?

2 seconds and Graham for Caruso.

Not feeling great about their protected '25 1st rounder (or Charlotte's '24) going forward.
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In reply to Enzo The Baker • 6:29p, 10/26/23
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Enzo The Baker said:
Guitarsoup said:



Players-only meeting after 1 game?

2 seconds and Graham for Caruso.

Not feeling great about their protected '25 1st rounder (or Charlotte's '24) going forward.
This year and next year to see Charlotte make the playoffs.

Chicago is top 10 in 2025, top 8 in 2026 and 2027. I think that one probably conveys. They are a cluster right now, but their individual parts have decent trade value. Just together, those parts are essentially a borderline play-in team.
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6:52p, 10/26/23
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I fell asleep early yesterday but had it recorded and just got through, figured I'd share some thoughts.
+Devin Vassell looks noticeably more athletic. Stronger, faster, and bouncier. He is going to continue his ascent towards an eventual all star appearance (probably not this year but I won't rule it out), and I feel better and better about his potential to be a top 3 option on a championship team. His on ball defense looked better and you can tell that his length really bothers jump shooters. He is starting to develop some serious gravity on offense as well, even though his 3 ball wasn't connecting.
+Collins looks a lot more comfortable in the offense. Having a guy down there next to Wemby that can post up, pass, and pop out and hit a 3 is going to be nice for creating a healthier offensive flow.
+Tre Jones looked great with and without the starters, he's a calming presence and he had some nice crafty plays.
+Cedi was great at getting to spots where he could be effective offensively.
+Bassey might be one of the 10 best rebounders in the NBA, if the ball was coming within 5 feet of him I expected him to come down with it no matter how contested.
+Outside of the last couple minutes, I thought Keldon put in a solid effort on both ends. It was nice to see him finish with craft near the rim.
+Nobody wants to shoot over Wemby, it felt like every shot attempt that got hoisted over his arms clanked off the back of the rim no matter who was taking it.
+Everyone played with great effort, the energy never seemed to wane even when our #1 guy was sidelined with foul trouble for good chunks of the game.
-Sochan looked really rough. Not only in his decision making which was bad, but physically also. I know he was playing against some great offensive players, but his on-ball P&R defense was tough to watch at times. If our plan is for him to be a guard, he needs to drop some weight. He was behind the 8 ball all night and was so far behind the play that any pump fake sent him flying, since that was the only way he could contest from so far away. It led to a lot of open looks from close to the rim. Offensively, he was just as bad. He is more of a connective passer (which he did effectively several times this game) than someone you want initiating the offense. WAY too many flailing drives to the basket against 2-3 defenders when we still had plenty of time on the clock. I love his potential but this was not one of his better efforts.
-If Collins had longer arms or had a better vert, I would really like him as a potential long term answer at C. That said, a lot of the reason Lively had a big game was because Collins couldn't handle him. He got caught too deep too often trying to help, and doesn't have the size or lateral quickness to recover to protect the rim.
-As much as I liked Cedi offensively, I was pretty disappointed in him defensively. He seemed to constantly overestimate his footspeed, because he would help so far into the paint that there was no way he could recover to contest the backside 3.
-Enough has been said about the closing minutes, but Keldon and Sochan have to be smarter.
-The 2 offensive fouls against Wemby were pretty ticky tack, but that 5th foul on the reach was all his fault and a really stupid play. He needs to understand the game situation a little better because we can't have him sitting on the bench during half the 4th quarter of a tight game.
+/- Branham and Doug were both pretty forgettable

Lots to like and lots to work on. Devin has been one of my favorite players since we drafted him, and seeing how far he has progressed is really cool.
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7:35p, 10/26/23
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Really clear we need a starting PG. Sochan -11, Tre +1.

Also, if Tre somehow figured out how to shoot threes, he's even more valuable. he was 2/3 yesterday.
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11:30a, 10/27/23
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Just Manu teaching Wemby, nbd
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7:45p, 10/27/23
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Earn that contract

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7:45p, 10/27/23
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Sorry, Jeremy

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7:47p, 10/27/23
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7:49p, 10/27/23
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Gonna have to replace Dirk's face with Wemby's on the fadeaway statue.
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8:23p, 10/27/23
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Ridiculous.

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8:39p, 10/27/23
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Collins is such a liability defensively. And he's not hitting anything on the other side.
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8:44p, 10/27/23
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In the nba predictions thread I kinda dicked around picking vassell as most improved. But. Maybe for real tho?
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8:47p, 10/27/23
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Also is tre basically playing his way into starting?


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9:13p, 10/27/23
Don't understand pop taking Wemby out with 4-5min left in a close game. He was just starting to get on a roll.
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9:15p, 10/27/23
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Back to back blocks on the same possession. I guess he was well rested?
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9:25p, 10/27/23
Man if wemby can play all 4qtrs like he has in the 4th qtr the last two games he's gonna be a big problem.
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9:25p, 10/27/23
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My word, Wemby vs Dillon books jump ball with 2 seconds left in a tie game. This is cinema
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9:50p, 10/27/23
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Easy win nbd on to the next one
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9:52p, 10/27/23
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That was the funnest Spurs game I've seen in a very long time. This group has a lot of figure out but man are they fun. Big FTs by Sochan at the end.
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In reply to Enzo The Baker • 9:52p, 10/27/23
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Enzo The Baker said:
Collins is such a liability defensively. And he's not hitting anything on the other side.
Led the team in assists with 8 (tied with Tre) but only 6 rebounds (zero offensive) in 39 minutes and shot 4 of 12 including 0-7 from three? All kinds of awful.
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9:54p, 10/27/23
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Beating the rockets is always fun. I didn't love some of the lineups tonight, but it's not unexpected from Pop this early in the season. Collins had a rough time defending Sengun and shot way too many 3s. Cedi Osman gave us some solid minutes tonight and kept us afloat when we were pretty stagnant on offense. Right now we're better with Jones than Sochan at PG. Wemby already has that killer instinct. Two games in and he's played his best in crunch time in the 4th.
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9:56p, 10/27/23
Nice Dub on to the next. Por Vida!

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My rotation would be:

PG Tre Jones
SG Devin Vassell
SF Cedi Osman
PF Wemby
C Collins

Bench:

Wing: Branham
Wing: Keldon
PG/PF: Sochan
C: Bassey

With Tre in the starting lineup, we don't need Keldon to create, but a bench with Keldon, Branham, Bassey, Sochan and any of the starters could go on some big runs and fun transition game. Keldon still gets starter minutes and closes the game, but I just think Keldon, Branham, Sochan for second team would run together really well. Biggest problem is that second team may or may not have any shooting. No one knows, not even them.
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 9:59p, 10/27/23
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Guitarsoup said:
My rotation would be:

PG Tre Jones
SG Devin Vassell
SF Cedi Osman
PF Wemby
C Collins

Bench:

Wing: Branham
Wing: Keldon
PG/PF: Sochan
C: Bassey

With Tre in the starting lineup, we don't need Keldon to create, but a bench with Keldon, Branham, Bassey, Sochan and any of the starters could go on some big runs and fun transition game. Keldon still gets starter minutes and closes the game, but I just think Keldon, Branham, Sochan for second team would run together really well. Biggest problem is that second team may or may not have any shooting. No one knows, not even them.

I approve.
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10:00p, 10/27/23
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Jabari Smith getting DESTROYED by Wemby tonight.

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10:05p, 10/27/23
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He's ferocious.



And no, it shouldn't have been goaltending, it was clearly outside the cylinder.

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10:08p, 10/27/23
Once Wemby gives the kind of effort we've seen in the 4th quarter all game, it's over for everyone else
No matter what
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