brotherbear said:
Hearing Rockets real high on Grady Dick at 4.
No chance.
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No chance.
How much do you trust Michael Jordan to make the best basketball front office move?Aggie09Derek said:
Take best player. Tiny chance that happens IMO.
If they refuse to take him they would get lots of offers to trade down.
Been reading on Clutchfans for the last hour and the general consensus is to slightly trade up for Scoot.
Cause james loves strippers and las vegas? While not a model team mate a tad different. But hey maybe miller had learned his lesson
I hope this is a joke.brotherbear said:
Hearing Rockets real high on Grady Dick at 4.
Olsen said:
Been reading on Clutchfans for the last hour and the general consensus is to slightly trade up for Scoot.
At what cost?
This post’s for you @SportsRV & @adamclanton - the #NBADraft lottery combinations that popped out went like this:
— Adam Wexler (@AdamJWexler) May 17, 2023
1. SA
2. CHA
3. POR
4. SA (ignored & balls dumped back in the hopper), CHA (ignored), SA (ignored), then finally HOU
Spurs balls were on their game tonight
#4 and KPJ for #2?Aggie09Derek said:Olsen said:
Been reading on Clutchfans for the last hour and the general consensus is to slightly trade up for Scoot.
At what cost?
No chance they would do that. Not worth picking up KPJ's contract and going down past the top 3…
Pick up the Gordon Hayward and Cody Martin contracts from them as well. Depends how high they are on Amen or Cam.Aggie09Derek said:
No chance they would do that. Not worth picking up KPJ's contract and going down past the top 3…
Richards/Williams
Washington/Cam
Bridges/Cam
Rozier/KPJ
Ball/Dennis Smith
Not a bad front and you clear up their cap issues for next year.
Didn't they drop Miles?
Maybe I'm off on that.
Maybe I'm off on that.
He didn't play this year, but they hold his rights. He pled guilty, has done community service, gone to counseling, etc. NBA said he has to serve the first ten games next year as a suspension.Aggie09Derek said:
Didn't they drop Miles?
Maybe I'm off on that.
With Houston preparing to make an aggressive push to sign James Harden this summer, rival NBA executives believe this pick will be used as trade bait as the Rockets look to take a significant step forward next season.
However, there's considered a drop-off in value after the trio of Wembanyama, Henderson, and Miller.
Whether Houston keeps the pick for itself or uses it in trade talks to acquire a proven star, the best available talent is likely Amen or Ausar Thompson.
However, there's considered a drop-off in value after the trio of Wembanyama, Henderson, and Miller.
Whether Houston keeps the pick for itself or uses it in trade talks to acquire a proven star, the best available talent is likely Amen or Ausar Thompson.
Just praying that the Hornets or Blazers fumble the pick and get weird
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Just praying that the Hornets or Blazers fumble the pick and get weird
Hornets are always down to engage in some bull****
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Wemby drops to four. LFG.CFTXAG10 said:
Just praying that the Hornets or Blazers fumble the pick and get weird
Good interview with Udoka on the Athletic today.
https://theathletic.com/4529926/2023/05/18/rockets-ime-udoka-jalen-green/
After reading this and the reports yesterday about Harden wanting a 4 year max deal and "basketball freedom" I am out on signing him. Sounds like he wants to go back to being the man and being the focal point of the offense.
This will be a really interesting thing to watch in terms of evaluating the harmony/dysfunction of the front office. I think the Fertita's want Harden back for their own reasons. Will their egos win out over the right basketball moves?
https://theathletic.com/4529926/2023/05/18/rockets-ime-udoka-jalen-green/
After reading this and the reports yesterday about Harden wanting a 4 year max deal and "basketball freedom" I am out on signing him. Sounds like he wants to go back to being the man and being the focal point of the offense.
This will be a really interesting thing to watch in terms of evaluating the harmony/dysfunction of the front office. I think the Fertita's want Harden back for their own reasons. Will their egos win out over the right basketball moves?
I would take a facilitator Harden on a 3 year deal. Wanting to be the man Harden is not we need. Only priority should be developing young talent.
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This. I know most of y'all here feel a certain way about him, but the reality is that he's one of the top 3-4 table-setters in the NBA still AND he can still get off his own shot. What we have now and what's available out there in FA isn't better than what Harden will bring. I don't believe the idea that he's bad in a locker room. By all accounts, he's pretty well liked and doesn't really cause drama. Sure he loves Vegas, but last I heard, he literally asked permission to go to Vegas two weeks ago. I'll take it.RebAg13 said:
I would take a facilitator Harden on a 3 year deal. Wanting to be the man Harden is not we need. Only priority should be developing young talent.
The ceiling next season is becoming a play-in team and think he'd get us there. Whatever the **** the last three seasons were was NOT it.
Thats the thing. I would take facilitator Harden on three years too. But it sounds like he wants to be high usage Harden on a four year deal at 34 years old. Thats not what we need right now.Head Ninja In Charge said:This. I know most of y'all here feel a certain way about him, but the reality is that he's one of the top 3-4 table-setters in the NBA still AND he can still get off his own shot. What we have now and what's available out there in FA isn't better than what Harden will bring. I don't believe the idea that he's bad in a locker room. By all accounts, he's pretty well liked and doesn't really cause drama. Sure he loves Vegas, but last I heard, he literally asked permission to go to Vegas two weeks ago. I'll take it.RebAg13 said:
I would take a facilitator Harden on a 3 year deal. Wanting to be the man Harden is not we need. Only priority should be developing young talent.
The ceiling next season is becoming a play-in team and think he'd get us there. Whatever the **** the last three seasons were was NOT it.
I believe both of y'all are exactly right.coastalAg said:Thats the thing. I would take facilitator Harden on three years too. But it sounds like he wants to be high usage Harden on a four year deal at 34 years old. Thats not what we need right now.Head Ninja In Charge said:This. I know most of y'all here feel a certain way about him, but the reality is that he's one of the top 3-4 table-setters in the NBA still AND he can still get off his own shot. What we have now and what's available out there in FA isn't better than what Harden will bring. I don't believe the idea that he's bad in a locker room. By all accounts, he's pretty well liked and doesn't really cause drama. Sure he loves Vegas, but last I heard, he literally asked permission to go to Vegas two weeks ago. I'll take it.RebAg13 said:
I would take a facilitator Harden on a 3 year deal. Wanting to be the man Harden is not we need. Only priority should be developing young talent.
The ceiling next season is becoming a play-in team and think he'd get us there. Whatever the **** the last three seasons were was NOT it.
In my opinion, I really think going the route that the Astros took is the way. Commit to the rebuild, stockpile some talent over the course of a handful of years, and start to develop them. We have done that and we have a very talented, but very young, group of guys.
Now is the time to start to surround those young players with some veterans. Guys like Colby Rasmus, Jed Lowrie, Brian McCann... these guys were great guys to bridge the gap and accelerate the rebuild a little bit without completely abandoning the mission of the rebuild.
If James is willing to take on the role of someone who will take the reigns of the offense while also not halting the development of the young guys, then I think it's a no-brainer that we take him back. The pros far outweigh the cons.
This is the sticking point. Based on the tidbits that have come out after the Sixers season, it sounds like Harden was clashing with Doc and was not necessarily happy playing second fiddle offensively to Embiid.Gi said:
If James is willing to take on the role of someone who will take the reigns of the offense while also not halting the development of the young guys
That makes me think he may not be onboard with coming in and being focused on getting the young guys shots and opportunities.
The problem is Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, and his old buddy Russel Westbrook would all disagree. Harden's inability to mesh with Paul was the real eye opener. Paul is about winning and wants teammates committed to that. And that is NOT James Harden.Head Ninja In Charge said:This. I know most of y'all here feel a certain way about him, but the reality is that he's one of the top 3-4 table-setters in the NBA still AND he can still get off his own shot. What we have now and what's available out there in FA isn't better than what Harden will bring. I don't believe the idea that he's bad in a locker room. By all accounts, he's pretty well liked and doesn't really cause drama. Sure he loves Vegas, but last I heard, he literally asked permission to go to Vegas two weeks ago. I'll take it.RebAg13 said:
I would take a facilitator Harden on a 3 year deal. Wanting to be the man Harden is not we need. Only priority should be developing young talent.
The ceiling next season is becoming a play-in team and think he'd get us there. Whatever the **** the last three seasons were was NOT it.
I've been a Harden defender over the years but it is time for the franchise to take their chances on a complete rebuild. Not with a player we know is going to clash with the new head coach over commitment to the game.
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True or false: The San Antonio Spurs are the best landing spot for Victor Wembanyama
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A huge sigh of relief was breathed, not only by Wembanyama's camp but the NBA industry as a whole, as many rival executives pointed out that it was extremely important for the health of the league that Wembanyama land in a place where he can reach his full potential. The consensus around the basketball world today is that he found that in San Antonio.
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There's a lot riding on Wembanyama's success not only from the perspective of his new team, but really the future of the NBA as it pertains to Victor maximizing his abilities and becoming one of the faces of the league. San Antonio's history developing not only star big men, but international talent in general, makes this an obviously strong match.
True or false: The San Antonio Spurs are the best landing spot for Victor Wembanyama
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Question. What have Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, and Russell Westbrook ever won?3 Toed Pete said:The problem is Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, and his old buddy Russel Westbrook would all disagree. Harden's inability to mesh with Paul was the real eye opener. Paul is about winning and wants teammates committed to that. And that is NOT James Harden.Head Ninja In Charge said:This. I know most of y'all here feel a certain way about him, but the reality is that he's one of the top 3-4 table-setters in the NBA still AND he can still get off his own shot. What we have now and what's available out there in FA isn't better than what Harden will bring. I don't believe the idea that he's bad in a locker room. By all accounts, he's pretty well liked and doesn't really cause drama. Sure he loves Vegas, but last I heard, he literally asked permission to go to Vegas two weeks ago. I'll take it.RebAg13 said:
I would take a facilitator Harden on a 3 year deal. Wanting to be the man Harden is not we need. Only priority should be developing young talent.
The ceiling next season is becoming a play-in team and think he'd get us there. Whatever the **** the last three seasons were was NOT it.
I've been a Harden defender over the years but it is time for the franchise to take their chances on a complete rebuild. Not with a player we know is going to clash with the new head coach over commitment to the game.
Chris Paul has done a metric **** ton of winning for his entire career, tf do you mean?
Guess that shows why they "won" the lottery
First assistant hire that I have seen.
Nets assistant coach Royal Ivey will be joining Ime Udoka’s staff with the Rockets, sources told ESPN. Ivey, who played college ball at Texas, has strong relationships with players across the league.
— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) May 18, 2023
Has he, though? He's played over 15 games in the playoffs once in his entire career. But he does have lots of individual accoladesHotardRat said:
Chris Paul has done a metric **** ton of winning for his entire career, tf do you mean?
Guitarsoup said:Has he, though? He's played over 15 games in the playoffs once in his entire career. But he does have lots of individual accoladesHotardRat said:
Chris Paul has done a metric **** ton of winning for his entire career, tf do you mean?
The Suns were an aimless team in 2019, then in the Finals in 2020. Because Chris Paul showed up.
Rockets couldn't take that next step required to get to the WCF in the years prior to CP3's arrival.
Guy is a winner. There are a million other much more complicated, nuanced reasons why it hasn't resulted in a title.
I hate this "rings culture" thing so much. It's so asinine.
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Guy is a winner. There are a million other much more complicated, nuanced reasons why it hasn't resulted in a title.
Respectfully, GTFOHHHHHHHH.
Very logical and measured counterpoint, well done.
https://clutchpoints.com/nba-rumors-james-harden-role-sixers-firing-doc-rivers
Harden a driving force in kicking out Doc Rivers.
That's cold to do right before you walk to Houston.
Harden a driving force in kicking out Doc Rivers.
That's cold to do right before you walk to Houston.
How about the Celtics get knocked out by Miami, we find a way to get Jaylen Brown, and Harden goes to Boston
He's gonna sign there again
Decline player option to sign a longer deal.
Decline player option to sign a longer deal.