quote:I think the patients will have sacrificed for nothing if we , as the American public, continue down this path of trying to clobber freedom of speech.
Should not have played last night because she didn't deserve to. Anyone who does this from now on should be told to pack their gear and leave permanently. Anyone who does this should be forced to visit a military hospital and explain to the patients why their sacrifice was for nothing.
quote:Kaepernick is donating salary and all proceeds from his jersey sales to charities (which his team has already pledged to match).quote:I'm still absolutely convinced this is why CK was sitting. He was mad he wasn't playing. The national anthem had nothing to do with. He came up with that bull**** on the spot
Instead she's just following in NFL players' shoes, who incidentally only started doing it when they realized they were becoming irrelevant and about to be cut from the team.
quote:quote:I think the patients will have sacrificed for nothing if we , as the American public, continue down this path of trying to clobber freedom of speech.
Should not have played last night because she didn't deserve to. Anyone who does this from now on should be told to pack their gear and leave permanently. Anyone who does this should be forced to visit a military hospital and explain to the patients why their sacrifice was for nothing.
Remember, the flag itself is just some cloth that you can buy for a few bucks at the store. That's not really why folks go to war.
quote:I don't think anyone is trying to clobber her freedom of speech here - she wasn't hauled off to jail or anything. US Soccer isn't obligated to provide her a platform to express her political views.quote:I think the patients will have sacrificed for nothing if we , as the American public, continue down this path of trying to clobber freedom of speech.
Should not have played last night because she didn't deserve to. Anyone who does this from now on should be told to pack their gear and leave permanently. Anyone who does this should be forced to visit a military hospital and explain to the patients why their sacrifice was for nothing.
Remember, the flag itself is just some cloth that you can buy for a few bucks at the store. That's not really why folks go to war.
quote:The topic of the thread seems to be Rapinoe's actions during a USWNT match and how US Soccer should respond. I guess I assumed that is the context you were speaking to.
^ Captain Obvious to the rescue.
But where did I say anything about US Soccer?
quote:So, I know what you mean.
The flag she mocks is largely responsible for lining her personal economic nest. I don't know of any species that ***** where it lives. She is a hypocrite of the worst kind.
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And a number of members of "American public" here have exposed themselves as being fearful of addressing the "why", on this thread and in many other places and on other similar issues.
Its quite obvious here, seeing the comparisons to the NFL players, the dissecting of her kneeling for her club team, and even the attempt to parse out a difference from those guys who protesting in '68, that folks in this thread have difficulty engaging her on the "why" but rather look to bail out before they get that far.
And its quite obvious in the reactions to Kaepernick and many other situations that the priorities of many members of the American public are keen not to engage on the "why", but to basically say keep your mouth shut if you don't share my views.
To clarify, if you're a pure soul whose only problem is you don't think US Soccer is the right place for this, that's fine. I wasn't addressing that. I know I was cryptic, so its OK. But I wasn't addressing that, to be clear.
Lets go off her kneeling for club team and talk the actual issue.
quote:Agreed, but playing for the USA and wearing the crest makes you a representative of the nation on the field. Playing for San Francisco has nothing to do with representing the USA.
US Soccer and that flag are no more responsible for anything than the San Francisco 49ers and the flag are responsible for Colin Kaepernick's much healthier financial nest egg.
quote:That's for sure.
Playing for San Francisco has nothing to do with representing the USA.
quote:quote:That's for sure.
Playing for San Francisco has nothing to do with representing the USA.
I get it, and I'm not trying to go after US Soccer for admonishing her. But I don't think threads like this help get us closer to having a real discussion and I think many people here and elsewhere have shown they wouldn't have much of an appetite for it.
Anyways, I won't beat this into the ground anymore.
Take care. God Bless the USA.
quote:Thailand isn't a very free country, but Rapinoe doesn't live in Thailand, does she? You're stretching it here.
She stood for the Thailand anthem, which is known for oppression.
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According to that data, out of all violent crimes in which someone was charged, black Americans were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the country's 75 biggest counties despite the fact that black Americans made up just 15 percent of the population in those places
quote:Doesn't matter where she lives. Inequality is a global issue and she still respected the Thailand anthem.quote:Thailand isn't a very free country, but Rapinoe doesn't live in Thailand, does she? You're stretching it here.
She stood for the Thailand anthem, which is known for oppression.
quote:No doubt crime in black communities, that tend to be poor, is a huge problem the same way crime is a huge problem in similarly marginalized communities worldwide. And thank goodness guys like Colin Kaepernick donate time and huge swaths of money to organizations that exist to improve conditions in lower-income communities.
Is this not a bigger problem that should be addressed?quote:
According to that data, out of all violent crimes in which someone was charged, black Americans were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the country's 75 biggest counties despite the fact that black Americans made up just 15 percent of the population in those places.
quote:So you'd be OK then if she knelt for both anthems?quote:Doesn't matter where she lives. Inequality is a global issue and she still respected the Thailand anthem.quote:Thailand isn't a very free country, but Rapinoe doesn't live in Thailand, does she? You're stretching it here.
She stood for the Thailand anthem, which is known for oppression.
