I actually thought it was a great episode

IMO it was obvious how hard they were trolling the Kardashian thing. Virtuous? Fame? They were pretty obviously making fun of the whole thing IMO.

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the Kardashian kids, who have been shown (played by actors) for a total of 23 seconds in the first two episodes of FX's acclaimed miniseries.

Twenty-three seconds is one third of one percent of the total show's total running time.

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Wanted to throw something at the TV when the Kardashian hoar kids were given YET MORE unnecessary screen time and dialogue. Get them the f*** off this show. Yay, another groaner where the kids have to correct how to say their last name.

I actually am very pleased with Schwimmer's portrayal of Robert K, but that opening was BRUTALLY bad and badly shoehorned into the plot.

...........and did I hear the f-bomb get dropped on the FX network? Hilarious.

Fantastic episode if you remove the hoar lunch date.

This show is a giant production of unintentional comedy, and the kardashian kids add to the hilarity. I'm enjoying it

I liked how they made Robert look like the grounded parent and Kris look like a media *****, encouraging her kids to embrace it, and BTW, Caitlyn is a famous Olympian. Seems she wanted the fame and fortune all along and helped her kids gobble it up.

They wouldn't be what they are without this trial, even with her marriage to Caitlyn.

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The Kardashian parts tonight were clearly black comedy, satire at it's finest. If you didn't get it, you might try tuning in to The Big Bang Theory and leave this one alone.

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I didn't think it was all that good of an episode. It was definitely a transition episode setting up for the trial to start. Thought they did a nice job of showing the momentum shift as OJ's dream team gets to work.

While I'm no fan of the Kardashian kids, it was interesting to see Rob and Kris' discussion on the murder. I never knew she was that adamant about OJ's guilt.

And again Travolta kills it as Shapiro.

The guy introduced this week playing Dershowitz was awesome. I remember him mostly from Californication.

I did enjoy seeing the dream team and the defense strategy come together. Prosecution was being very cocky.

I think if you didn't live through those events as an adult, last night's episode was kind of a snoozer, but if you were old enough to follow it all, it was a fascinating behind-the-scenes look of Shapiro struggling with his personal image, bringing in Bailey, Dershowitz, and Cochran, as well as of the DA being utterly clueless about the opinions of black people towards police in spite of how recent the Rodney King stuff was. Marcia Clark's thinly-veiled "we need a black guy on our side" appeal to Chris Darden was great stuff.

As another poster said, Travolta has been utterly fantastic, beyond anything I would have thought him capable at this stage in his career; I hope Marcia Gay Harden doesn't get lung cancer as a result of this show, because you could play a drinking game where you chug a beer every time Marcia Clark lights up a smoke and be drunk by 9:25 p.m.

Thought it would have been the cherry on top for the Kardashian kids to have one of them start to tell Schwimmer, "I thought I saw Bruce trying on some of mom's clothes" before the madness at the restaurant breaks out.

And the Johnny Cochran part continues to be the most eye-opening to me. He came across with such swagger in 1994, I never expected him to be so passionate and earnest when the cameras weren't pointed his way.

Next episode is titled "Absolutely 100% Not Guilty". Here's a link to the original NY Times story from the day after that happened in court - July 22, 1994 -

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/07/23/us/absolutely-not-guilty-a-confident-simpson-says.html

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The guy introduced this week playing Dershowitz was awesome. I remember him mostly from Californication.

I did enjoy seeing the dream team and the defense strategy come together. Prosecution was being very cocky.

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I laughed when I saw Runkle, but he ended up being pretty good in it.

I loved this episode. Kept my attention the whole way. I love how this was, most likely the start to the over night celebrity. How that eff'd with the prosecutors case and all of their witnesses are selling out for fame over justice.

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We'll have to agree to disagree. I strongly believe the message here is that Robert Kardashian as a stand-up guy, while the rest of his family is rich trailer trash. If anything it's one long middle finger at the kids and Kris Jenner.

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I dont disagree with that at all, but the same message could have been more accurately portrayed as to the importance of all the elements of the entire story. Your theme that we agree about needed a rubber mallet, and instead Murphy is dropping an anvil because they're leeching off the popularity of the Kardashians for eyeballs.

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Do you actually believe anyone is watching this show to see 2 mins of baby Kardashians?

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Exactly. It's really more of a wink to the audience, but they're also showcasing Robert Kardashian more than I expected. And to be honest, that's the one aspect of the whole story that I know the least about. He really seems like the most sympathetic character on the side of the defense.

I actually think it's funny when they show those punk kids. The son is especially annoying at this point.

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Do you actually believe anyone is watching this show to see 2 mins of baby Kardashians?

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absolutely. obsessed fans are always interested in learning every detail about those with whom they are obsessed. a glorified Hollywood portrayal of the OJ case is able to attract a ton of viewers that were too young or not even born when it happened by tying in the Kardashian kids as much as possible.

One or two nods to the kard freaks during the course of the series would be enough to acknowledge the role this case played in the devoplement of reality media.....

But the freak show was written in as part of the storyline.....

Extremely pathetic

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absolutely. obsessed fans are always interested in learning every detail about those with whom they are obsessed. a glorified Hollywood portrayal of the OJ case is able to attract a ton of viewers that were too young or not even born when it happened by tying in the Kardashian kids as much as possible.

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This show got 12M viewers for the first ep, and the Kardashian shows get about 1M. I think you're far overstating the interest in them and FXs desire to leverage that.

It is interesting though that the Kardashian kids' fame would never have existed had this not gone down (and of course the Bush sex tape). There's a very interesting comparison between the media frenzy that this stirred and that which the Kardashians cause today (earned or not).

That said, it still feels forced.

Good ep though, nonetheless. I remember the trial, but was too young to recall much of the details, so it's incredible to rewatch how the prosecution bungled this, and how successful the defense was. The 911 call left me even more surprised at how the defense screwed this up. And it's a nice glimpse so far into how the two teams are building their defenses with Dershowitz and his DNA specialist's involvement; with Marcia's attitude toward the media. She's definitely misplaying the media - that 911 call works, as bad as it is, to taint the potential jury in her favor (I would think).

kim has over 60 million twitter followers alone. I dont' care to even look up the rest of her sisters.

Making sure the kardashian kids are featured prominently is definitely important with someone who is that well-known and they are loosely tied to the OJ story. They're absolutely leveraging that imo.

But either way, as muck said, we can agree to disagree.

Because it gets in the way of the actual show. It adds nothing and takes away time that could be spent on something actually relevant to the case.

It's crappy television when they're on.

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"I hate them" means you are close to loving them.

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They are hardly in it. It is more annoying to me for the Kardashian character to keep calling him Juice instead of OJ.

When you hate someone you have strong emotions towards them. When you love someone you have strong emotions toward them. When you could care less that means you have little to no emotion toward them. This overblown nonsense about those kids means ya'll are thinking about them too much.

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Because it gets in the way of the actual show. It adds nothing and takes away time that could be spent on something actually relevant to the case.

It's crappy television when they're on.

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Did you really expect no mention of their kids at all? OJ was their godfather. Robert seems to be the only true white friend he has. Remember, the guys from the club won't even visit him. He was embraced and welcomed by the white, rich folks in LA, which is probably historical at the time, until he was accused of killing his wife. Kris & Bruce were on Nicole's side and I vaguely recall them doing the media circuit to voice that. These kids may have grown up a little more normal without this spot light and their parents firmly on opposite sides of their "uncle". If I didn't know them at all, I'd feel sorry for them.

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It is interesting though that the Kardashian kids' fame would never have existed had this not gone down (and of course the Bush sex tape). There's a very interesting comparison between the media frenzy that this stirred and that which the Kardashians cause today (earned or not).

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Ray-J, not Reggie Bush.

I can see Chin Chin - the restaurant where the Kardashians eat in the opening - from my front door. I live a block from where the murders took place. Half this show either takes place within - or was shot within - a mile radius of my apartment. It's so completely surreal. Overall, I just wish it wasn't so damn heavy-handed and obvious at every turn. Still, it's definitely been entertaining.

Sounds like a motive to me.

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As another poster said, Travolta has been utterly fantastic, beyond anything I would have thought him capable at this stage in his career; I hope Marcia Gay Harden doesn't get lung cancer as a result of this show, because you could play a drinking game where you chug a beer every time Marcia Clark lights up a smoke and be drunk by 9:25 p.m.

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That's Sarah Paulson, who is literally half the woman Marcia Gay Harden is.

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she is a doing a very good job i think. hard character to nail down and she has the attitude and smarminess, plus the look.