Dead-Coach-In-Waiting?wbt5845 said:
Dead-Coach-In-Waiting?wbt5845 said:
Well, Foreman does lead the nation in rushing yards, yards before contact, yards after contact, and has a legitimate chance to rush for over 2,000 yards by season's end having only played in 11 games.Schrute said:Was this before or after they were talking about Foreman for Heisman? Seriously, I heard this on my way in this morning....Champ Bailey said:
B&E just announced that Texas vs. Texas Tech is the official in-state rivalry now.
harryhorns said:Well, Foreman does lead the nation in rushing yards, yards before contact, yards after contact, and has a legitimate chance to rush for over 2,000 yards by season's end having only played in 11 games.Schrute said:Was this before or after they were talking about Foreman for Heisman? Seriously, I heard this on my way in this morning....Champ Bailey said:
B&E just announced that Texas vs. Texas Tech is the official in-state rivalry now.
But Big 12 defenses, so he suuuuuuuuuuucks. Am I doing that right?
Well, I agree about the Heisman part. It's a QB's award usually, and even if it wasn't, Lamar Jackson should finish with one of the top 5 voting performances ever.Champ Bailey said:harryhorns said:Well, Foreman does lead the nation in rushing yards, yards before contact, yards after contact, and has a legitimate chance to rush for over 2,000 yards by season's end having only played in 11 games.Schrute said:Was this before or after they were talking about Foreman for Heisman? Seriously, I heard this on my way in this morning....Champ Bailey said:
B&E just announced that Texas vs. Texas Tech is the official in-state rivalry now.
But Big 12 defenses, so he suuuuuuuuuuucks. Am I doing that right?
No, he is good. Unfortunately he is not even the best running back in the nation though, so talking about him winning the heisman is ridiculous.
Sort of. Remember the ridiculous numbers Leach's QBs at tech used to put up? They were largely dismissed by Heisman voters because of the "system" label.Quote:
Well, Foreman does lead the nation in rushing yards, yards before contact, yards after contact, and has a legitimate chance to rush for over 2,000 yards by season's end having only played in 11 games.
But Big 12 defenses, so he suuuuuuuuuuucks. Am I doing that right?
I don't think he is as good as the San Diego State guy, do you? Not to discredit Foreman, but what Pumphrey has been doing has been legendary.harryhorns said:Well, I agree about the Heisman part. It's a QB's award usually, and even if it wasn't, Lamar Jackson should finish with one of the top 5 voting performances ever.Champ Bailey said:harryhorns said:Well, Foreman does lead the nation in rushing yards, yards before contact, yards after contact, and has a legitimate chance to rush for over 2,000 yards by season's end having only played in 11 games.Schrute said:Was this before or after they were talking about Foreman for Heisman? Seriously, I heard this on my way in this morning....Champ Bailey said:
B&E just announced that Texas vs. Texas Tech is the official in-state rivalry now.
But Big 12 defenses, so he suuuuuuuuuuucks. Am I doing that right?
No, he is good. Unfortunately he is not even the best running back in the nation though, so talking about him winning the heisman is ridiculous.
Agree to disagree on the best running back in the nation part. But, I'm obviously biased, and there are some freak backs out there
I feel like comparing QB stats and RB stats because the schools run a system is apples and oranges, but okaggiehawg said:Sort of. Remember the ridiculous numbers Leach's QBs at tech used to put up? They were largely dismissed by Heisman voters because of the "system" label.Quote:
Well, Foreman does lead the nation in rushing yards, yards before contact, yards after contact, and has a legitimate chance to rush for over 2,000 yards by season's end having only played in 11 games.
But Big 12 defenses, so he suuuuuuuuuuucks. Am I doing that right?
So yes, the lack of defense in the Big XII hurts Foreman because his stats are suspect.
Totally agree that Pumphrey has been legendary. Like I said, I'm clearly biased. But this year should shake out to be a terrific draft for running backsChamp Bailey said:I don't think he is as good as the San Diego State guy, do you? Not to discredit Foreman, but what Pumphrey has been doing has been legendary.harryhorns said:Well, I agree about the Heisman part. It's a QB's award usually, and even if it wasn't, Lamar Jackson should finish with one of the top 5 voting performances ever.Champ Bailey said:harryhorns said:Well, Foreman does lead the nation in rushing yards, yards before contact, yards after contact, and has a legitimate chance to rush for over 2,000 yards by season's end having only played in 11 games.Schrute said:Was this before or after they were talking about Foreman for Heisman? Seriously, I heard this on my way in this morning....Champ Bailey said:
B&E just announced that Texas vs. Texas Tech is the official in-state rivalry now.
But Big 12 defenses, so he suuuuuuuuuuucks. Am I doing that right?
No, he is good. Unfortunately he is not even the best running back in the nation though, so talking about him winning the heisman is ridiculous.
Agree to disagree on the best running back in the nation part. But, I'm obviously biased, and there are some freak backs out there
Then you misunderstood me. I was talking about the perception, not the subsequent facts. The "perception" was that Leach's tech QBs put up up astonishing numbers, not because defense was optional in the Big XII at that time, it was because Leach had a plug-n-play system where QBs waited in line for a couple of seasons and were thoroughly steeped in his offense. One QB would leave and the next would start without much offensive production drop-off.harryhorns said:I feel like comparing QB stats and RB stats because the schools run a system is apples and oranges, but okaggiehawg said:Sort of. Remember the ridiculous numbers Leach's QBs at tech used to put up? They were largely dismissed by Heisman voters because of the "system" label.Quote:
Well, Foreman does lead the nation in rushing yards, yards before contact, yards after contact, and has a legitimate chance to rush for over 2,000 yards by season's end having only played in 11 games.
But Big 12 defenses, so he suuuuuuuuuuucks. Am I doing that right?
So yes, the lack of defense in the Big XII hurts Foreman because his stats are suspect.
Leach at Wazzou is still carving up teams in the Pac 12. I think his success at Tech was more due to his offensive acumen rather than the opposing defenses not being up to scale
Lil brother will never understand this. Foreman is a solid rb, but lol and smh at the sips.Quote:
Unfortunately he is not even the best running back in the nation though, so talking about him winning the heisman is ridiculous.
Dude has racked up yards against defenses like Tech and Baylor. And even then he has 13 rushing TDs. That would probably be the lowest amount ever for a Heisman QB/RB. JFF had 21 rushing TDs to go along with 37 passing TDs.harryhorns said:Well, Foreman does lead the nation in rushing yards, yards before contact, yards after contact, and has a legitimate chance to rush for over 2,000 yards by season's end having only played in 11 games.Schrute said:Was this before or after they were talking about Foreman for Heisman? Seriously, I heard this on my way in this morning....Champ Bailey said:
B&E just announced that Texas vs. Texas Tech is the official in-state rivalry now.
But Big 12 defenses, so he suuuuuuuuuuucks. Am I doing that right?
UTExan said:
This is like a soap opera where a character is revived from a coma, or awakens from amnesia. What a train wreck.
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