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The true culpability is with the university and how it handled the rape victim. Petersen and Briles is basically "he said, he said". One or the other is lying but it will be very hard to prove.
quote:I always have to look up Ian McCaw's name because he's so low profile. And creating a position of mole within the AD's department is interesting. A resignation is forthcoming, most likely.
And if I were the AD, I'd look out for falling objects. Creating a position within your department that reports above you is laying the groundwork to drop a piano on your head.
quote:He might have not known beforehand. His culpability if any is in how he handles the situation now. He's litigator. He has to know better know than to just take Briles' word for it. He knows where to look and how to look there to determine if Briles knew then and is lying now.
How involved are college presidents in knowing who is under scholarship? Not excusing Starr, he's a sanctimonious ***** but if an athletic dept wanted to hide things from a school president I would think it would be easy.
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Wally blanco
You look very pathetic defending briles and boo hoo sue u. It was known this guy was bad; real programs like Florida, Bama and others did their due diligence and said no thanks. Your boy Artie did what he has done 8-10 times before and welcomed yet another thug with open arms. Your basketball team has a history of this and even your baseball team has some history there.
IF boo hoo sue u is really the "christian" school it claims to be, they would not have buried this story nor let the rapist stay in school- much less the program. IF they REALLY care about how women are treated on their campus, they would fire the pres, the vp of student affairs, the general counsel, the ad and ole artie- at a minimum. But we all know who/what we are dealing with and McCall will take the fall, boo hoo sue u will pat themselves on the back and boast about how great they are.
Boo hoo sue u better hunker down, as it looks like there will be a title IX suite by the Feds which could suspend all federal funds it gets (i.e. FAFSA grants, etc.); then the civil suit will hit and if I were her I would start the battle at $100M; she could own a used up campus in south Waco, a high school sized stadium, etc. The state could suspend their funding to boo hoo sue u over Title IX also. Heck, there is even a clause in the bdf charter that could get boo hoo sue u removed from it.
If I was you, I would stop the fantasies you are having about Aggie men fapping (it will obviously be hard for you to do) and worry about protecting your own backside.
quote:It is possible that neither was lying. Their statements weren't actually contradicting. Peterson says, "we told them everything", and Briles says, "we didn't hear about the violence".
The true culpability is with the university and how it handled the rape victim. Petersen and Briles is basically "he said, he said". One or the other is lying but it will be very hard to prove.
quote:Nobody should be okay with the university's treatment of the girl.quote:So you are ok with how that girl was treated by the athletic department and by the university?
This will be most upsetting to the scandal fappers. They are rooting for anything but accountability.
quote:Again, what is the story of two sexual assaults? I have only heard of one, which was just resolved in the courts.
I do care about the two young ladies who were raped and threatened (and those are jus the ones we know of). I could care less about boo hoo sue u, but being the father of a daughter, I hope there is a special place in hell for anyone who hits, abuses,rapes, etc. a lady- and I hope that place will include slots for folks like you who make light of it.
quote:This is odd to me because it's unnecessarily limited. Why not just say, "We must have zero tolerance for sexual violence"?
That was quick.
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Baylor University President and Chancellor Ken Starr released the following statement today, with respect to the university's internal inquiry and next steps:
"We must guarantee there is no room at Baylor University for those who would perpetrate sexual violence on our campus. I want to thank Jeremy Counseller, Professor of Law and Faculty Athletics Representative, for his judgment and guidance. After reviewing the results of his internal inquiry, I am recommending that our Board of Regents retain the services of outside counsel to investigate thoroughly these matters and recommend continued improvements. The Board plans to announce its selection of outside counsel early next week.
"In addition, I am creating a unique position, housed in the Division of Athletics, that has the authority and oversight of all student-athlete behavior. This officer-level position will report directly to the President and ensure our student-athletes maintain the high level of personal ethics and integrity that Baylor Nation demands. I will work directly with the Board of Regents to formulate the specific responsibilities of this position.
"Baylor University is committed to maintaining the highest degree of campus safety to protect the welfare of all our students. This is central to Baylor's mission as a Christian university and at the heart of our commitment to our students, faculty and staff. We must have zero tolerance for sexual violence on our athletic teams and our campus."
quote:How do you keep pretending that Briles had nothing to do with this?quote:Again, what is the story of two sexual assaults? I have only heard of one, which was just resolved in the courts.
I do care about the two young ladies who were raped and threatened (and those are jus the ones we know of). I could care less about boo hoo sue u, but being the father of a daughter, I hope there is a special place in hell for anyone who hits, abuses,rapes, etc. a lady- and I hope that place will include slots for folks like you who make light of it.
Nobody is making light of rape, except for the scandal fappers who actually don't give a rat's ass about the horrible crime that was committed, and the search for truth now as to how the university so completely effed up the treatment of the victim of this crime. They are only concerned with fallacious implication of a football coach.
If you really do have a daughter, I believe your sincerity.
quote:quote:Again, what is the story of two sexual assaults? I have only heard of one, which was just resolved in the courts.
I do care about the two young ladies who were raped and threatened (and those are jus the ones we know of). I could care less about boo hoo sue u, but being the father of a daughter, I hope there is a special place in hell for anyone who hits, abuses,rapes, etc. a lady- and I hope that place will include slots for folks like you who make light of it.
Nobody is making light of rape, except for the scandal fappers who actually don't give a rat's ass about the horrible crime that was committed, and the search for truth now as to how the university so completely effed up the treatment of the victim of this crime. They are only concerned with fallacious implication of a football coach.
If you really do have a daughter, I believe your sincerity.
quote:That sounds awful. I don't know what it has to do with this thread, unless the attacker has been mentioned, or had a prior record that the football staff ignored.
Walter
I know two young ladies that were raped by Baylor students. One girl, a friend, was a student at Baylor.
The other was a family member who was not a Baylor student.
A football player did it.
Preach your stuff somewhere else.
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They are only concerned with fallacious implication of a football coach.
quote:Whether Briles knew about the rapists past isn't the most important issue. Of course Petersen says he told Briles, and other coaches like Muschamp passed, but you can keep your head in the sand on that issue. Briles takes plenty of transfers who have been dismissed from other teams.quote:Again, what is the story of two sexual assaults? I have only heard of one, which was just resolved in the courts.
I do care about the two young ladies who were raped and threatened (and those are jus the ones we know of). I could care less about boo hoo sue u, but being the father of a daughter, I hope there is a special place in hell for anyone who hits, abuses,rapes, etc. a lady- and I hope that place will include slots for folks like you who make light of it.
Nobody is making light of rape, except for the scandal fappers who actually don't give a rat's ass about the horrible crime that was committed, and the search for truth now as to how the university so completely effed up the treatment of the victim of this crime. They are only concerned with fallacious implication of a football coach.
If you really do have a daughter, I believe your sincerity.
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Briles should have taken the "Find a Fall Guy - by Chris Carter" seminar.
Briles and Star have thier "Fall Guy" in the person of Associate Dean Bethany McCraw. I just hope she was told to not really investigate, and has the proof (which I doubt).
No matter, I also hope the press does not let this go with this one fall guy, being a scapegoat for the whole cover up that went on afterwards.
As has been stated multiple times, there is way too much smoke for one person being responsible for the cover-up.
Hopefully the truth will come out after an outside investigation. Will the fappers accept anything that doesn't implicate the football coaches?
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they need an attorney leading the investigation because that preserves the attorney-client privilege of the investigation. Stated another way, they're writing a hell of a big check.
quote:What if a 2nd name at Baylol popped up regarding SU and the athletic department was aware of the other person. The internal investigation made Starr aware of this, which he previously was not aware.
Seriously, to put a halt to their investigation after less than a week shows their true colors. This is not going to end well for them.
quote:The Florida story didn't involve allegations of a direct contact between Muschamp and Petersen. More lower level coaching staff talking to each other between Florida and Boise, as I recall.
When there are depositions, who are you going to believe - Peterson or Briles?
If Muschamp deposes and says Peterson told him of the " incidents " , where will that leave Briles ?
quote:When you say "Baptist Church"... that isn't like saying the Catholic Church...
Will the Baptist Church ever get involved with all that has taken place with Baylor athletics? Don't they provide some financing to Baylor?
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With the exception of the five theological colleges associated with our SBC seminaries, the Southern Baptist Convention has no direct connection with any of these institutions. It provides no funding. It elects no trustees. Each institution is related to one of our partnering Baptist state conventions.
quote:To which they designate in Texas:
The SBC provides no scholarship assistance to any student through the SBC Cooperative Program Allocation Budget. Scholarship awards are coordinated through each respective college or university's finance office in accordance with guidelines adopted by the individual school.
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Baylor University affiliated with the Baptist General Convention of Texas
