2016 NBA Draft & Trades

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George HIll, Jeff Teague, Jazz

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Mutual interest between Dwight Howard & the Knicks
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The Knicks are trading for Derrick Rose.
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George HIll, Jeff Teague, Jazz


Per Chris Broussard, Indiana will retain the rights to Hill's blond hair
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List of PGs-only with better PER's than D-Rose last year...

Elfrid Payton
T.J. McConnell
Shelvin Mack
Gary Neal
Tim Frazier
Jordan Clarkson
37 others

Crazy how far he fell from his 2011 MVP season, in which he was third in the NBA overall in PER.
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Good move to trade for rose. Last year of deal.
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I'm sure it will be mentioned, but any chance of Pau to the Knicks?

Not sure how Pau feels about DRose or Phil.
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Good move to trade for rose. Last year of deal.
Good move for both sides
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I'm sure it will be mentioned, but any chance of Pau to the Knicks?

Not sure how Pau feels about DRose or Phil.
Probably depends on Pau's desire to play in big cities vs. his desire to compete for a championship. Not sure any destination fits both desires in 2016-17.
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I'm sure it will be mentioned, but any chance of Pau to the Knicks?

Not sure how Pau feels about DRose or Phil.



Pau wants to chase rings. So no chance of Knicks. Spurs Warriors Cavs or thunder
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this definitely puts the Knicks as the odds on favorite to win the 2011 championship
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The Knicks are trading for Derrick Rose.


It's not like they gave up much for him. This was definitely a second or third tier trade. Sideshow Bob and Caldern for Rose and a second round pick isn't really a big deal imo (2 other deep bench guys were also traded but they aren't important). Just a "...yay?" trade.
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this definitely puts the Knicks as the odds on favorite to win the 2011 championship

At first I thought... solid effort by Simplebay he's usually a hack..

But then I realized he did what a hack does and ripped off Mike Amato's Twitter.
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Almost two hours before Simple
Simplebay
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I do not know who that is. It's also on reddit. I assume they both stole from me. Ain't no thing.
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Also posted two hours before you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/4pcgtd/the_bulls_are_trading_rose_to_the_knicks_for/d4js6ji
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Let's check in with Gilbert Arenas for his take on the trade:
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Hold up wait a min.....I take a nap and wake up to this **** here.... #Drose just got traded for #Calderon and #RobinLopez? #HUH #ayeshacurry the NBA must be rigged girl lol #philJackson just got derrick rose for(two scratch and sniff lotto tickets,one of shawn kemp 9 kids and bootleg copy of #riri cd (music of the son WITHOUT #PonDeReplay )im not saying #chicagobullsGM is doing #crack,all im saying is this move was very CRACKISH....this is like tipping a crackhead outside a #nightclub for waving you over 4 the FREE PARKING SPACE(I was saving this for you big man) #YouJustDontDoIt this is embarrassing CHICAGO....I could have giving u a better deal then what you got....I need derrick rose on my #YMCA team so ill give u ( the cell phone #deangelorussellused to film his teammates confession last season,I have clear sound bite from when#royhibbert got slapped in preseason by#trevorbooker..u can clearly hear him say#OUCHHHH*****ThatHurts and ill throw in two #AllAccessPasses to go see meek mills Back stage in #toronto during #ovofesthahaha do we have a deal CHICAGO?? Im sorry yall but Phil jackson must have a tape of the bulls GM playing with#caitlynjennerBalls or something to agree to that trade #PhilRealMVP#BlackMailTrade??
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Did you really just post me the info I literally just told you. Man you rip me off almost as much as Michael what's his face
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Did you really just post me the info I literally just told you. Man you rip me off almost as much as Michael what's his face

Nothing you have to say is witty enough to rip off.
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Celtics reportedly offered the third pic in the draft for Khris Middleton and the Bucks turned it down.
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Celtics reportedly offered the third pic in the draft for Khris Middleton and the Bucks turned it down.


I love Khris and he's turned into a good player, but why the hell would the Bucks not take that?
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Two possible reasons:

1 - We don't know all the details. There could have been other items requested.

2- The unknown has appeal, but I don't think the Bucks question Khris's work ethic or talent...at least they know who he is.
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BBQ chicken for ol' mummy knees, huh? Gotta say I didn't see that coming.
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Celtics reportedly offered the third pic in the draft for Khris Middleton and the Bucks turned it down.


I love Khris and he's turned into a good player, but why the hell would the Bucks not take that?


The draft, even at the top, is gambling. Lots of top 10 and even top 5 picks never pan out. Middleton averaged 18/4/4 last year on 0.444/0.396/0.888 shooting, and provided great defense on the other end. I don't know about you, but I'd be hesitant to trade away that proven production for the third pick.

Just for reference, here are the last few third picks:
Okafor: good offensive player, leaves a lot to be desired on defense
Embiid: injury gamble that doesn't look like it's gonna pay off.
Otto Porter: in year 3, he averaged 11ppg. Not nearly as good as Middleton.
Bradley Beal: comparable to Middleton.
Enes Kanter: a good player who finally seems to be growing into his pick. At this point I'd say Middleton has produced more.
Derrick Favors: no better than Middleton.
Harden: great player on offense.
OJ Mayo: great first two years, then settled in as a good, but not great player.

So there you go. Looking at the last few years, I'd say the odds favor coming away with a player who's worse than Middleton if you're drafting #3. The only one who's clearly better is Harden, and even he has his team-harming defensive issues.
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hmmmm.....

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I'm sure it will be mentioned, but any chance of Pau to the Knicks?

Not sure how Pau feels about DRose or Phil.
Pau played in Phil's triangle offense and won 2 rings. No problem there. Maybe with DRose, but they were just teammates so I doubt that would stop him. If he thinks the Knicks could compete, not saying they can, but if in his mind they can compete than it's something for him to consider. With a weak eastern conf. they could make it far just on talent alone.
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I'm guessing this will be a heavy trade night .




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Minnesota looking to unload Ricky Rubio.

Chicago tried to trade Jimmy Butler for Zach Levine and #5 and min said no.
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Minnesota trying to go kris Dunn and something for jimmy butler.
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In my opinion top 5 players in the draft in order:

Ben Simmons
Kris Dunn
Buddy Hield
Jamal Murray










Brandon Ingram
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Thon Maker just went #10 to the Bucks.
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