Was Ford creating himself in his house so that it could appear he was shot at the end? That could enable him to come back in the future
9:41p, 12/4/16
Wow, what a way to end the season. I thought we'd see some sort of resolution without elsie and stubbs, but I suppose Stubbs was foreshadowing hosts who can kill humans and Elsie revealed that "Arnold" was still alive.
9:44p, 12/4/16
Yeah he knew he was getting pushed out. The only questions remaining are was it truly up to Dolores when she chose to kill him. It may have been her choice in those final moments, but either way, the army of hosts coming in there were surely programmed. That, and was that really Ford being killed...
9:44p, 12/4/16
In reply to Brian Earl Spilner
Looked like he was paying tribute in his own way and at the same time sticking it to the man
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Ok, I want to make sure I understood this.
Ford's new narrative was always meant to end with his own death? And with a massacre of the board?
Looked like he was paying tribute in his own way and at the same time sticking it to the man
9:48p, 12/4/16
In reply to TheVarian
yes....although he very well could have programmed all of his memories and personality in a host of himself....right?
TheVarian said:Brian Earl Spilner said:
Ok, I want to make sure I understood this.
Ford's new narrative was always meant to end with his own death? And with a massacre of the board?
Looked like he was paying tribute in his own way and at the same time sticking it to the man
yes....although he very well could have programmed all of his memories and personality in a host of himself....right?
9:49p, 12/4/16
and Dolores is the oldest host - they achieve consciousness after so much repeated suffering...so the others will get there in time....
9:50p, 12/4/16
How did Delores gaining consciousness enable her to overcome the core code about not killing real people?
9:50p, 12/4/16
I really wanted an explanation for Felix's behavior, now even more so. How does he keep going along even after watching them murder all those people.
9:51p, 12/4/16
I LOVED William/MIB smiling that wicked smile when he got shot and realized the game was finally real and he could be hurt.
9:53p, 12/4/16
In reply to BBQ4Me
I'm assuming Ford changed her code just like he changed Maeve's.
UMichAg said:
How did Delores gaining consciousness enable her to overcome the core code about not killing real people?
I'm assuming Ford changed her code just like he changed Maeve's.
9:54p, 12/4/16
In reply to Brian Earl Spilner
Well at least I got this.Brian Earl Spilner said:
There's pretty much zero doubt in my mind that Dolores will execute Arnold sitting in that chair. That is the "truth" behind Wyatt executing the general.
9:54p, 12/4/16
BRAVO for a truly unique and non cheesy and non formulaic and non cliffhanger ending.....
Blew it the hell up.....and an out of left field (but pretty logical really) twist of sorts.....
yet it can go on in so many ways and in so many directions - possibilities are endless.
9:54p, 12/4/16
Did everyone watch after the credits to see the blonde woman realize that she didn't need to feel pain?
9:57p, 12/4/16
I knew we would need a lot of backstory for it all to make sense with William and what made him like that, and it was perfect. Everything right up to the end there getting shot. He never wanted to go back. He finally got his wish. Probably would have even got a little more satisfaction if he saw Dolores Doing her thing. But so good.
9:57p, 12/4/16
In reply to Lt. Joe Bookman
I was just about to turn the tv off. Damn I'm gonna have to watch that again!
10:00p, 12/4/16
Could certainly see it coming with the way Ford seemed unaffected by the board forcing him out, the MiB wanting it "to be real" and the cold storage army... But even seeing it coming, they did it very well.
My only question -- does Maeve leaving the train and going back show that she still hasn't completely evolved yet since she was about to see the outside world and chose to go back for her "daughter"?
My only question -- does Maeve leaving the train and going back show that she still hasn't completely evolved yet since she was about to see the outside world and chose to go back for her "daughter"?
10:00p, 12/4/16
In reply to Zombie Jon Snow
I wouldn't doubt if he gave a body his consciousness so he could see the chaos ensueZombie Jon Snow said:TheVarian said:Brian Earl Spilner said:
Ok, I want to make sure I understood this.
Ford's new narrative was always meant to end with his own death? And with a massacre of the board?
Looked like he was paying tribute in his own way and at the same time sticking it to the man
yes....although he very well could have programmed all of his memories and personality in a host of himself....right?
10:00p, 12/4/16
In reply to Lt. Joe Bookman
That was great (and a first for an HBO show to have a stinger?).
I also liked seeing Samurai World!
I also liked seeing Samurai World!
10:00p, 12/4/16
Distract the whole security team with an escape and kill the entire board. Well done Ford
Now the episode comes back on at 10:04
Now the episode comes back on at 10:04
10:07p, 12/4/16
In reply to Dro07
I was thinking Shogun World.
dromo07 said:New World Ag said:
Samurai World!
You mean Shanghai World you racists
I was thinking Shogun World.
10:08p, 12/4/16
In reply to mhayden
I took it to mean that she was actually overriding her code
free_mhayden said:
Could certainly see it coming with the way Ford seemed unaffected by the board forcing him out, the MiB wanting it "to be real" and the cold storage army... But even seeing it coming, they did it very well.
My only question -- does Maeve leaving the train and going back show that she still hasn't completely evolved yet since she was about to see the outside world and chose to go back for her "daughter"?
I took it to mean that she was actually overriding her code
10:09p, 12/4/16
In reply to Aggie_Outlaw
except it was an "S" on the signage.Aggie_Outlaw said:Eastworldmathguy86 said:
Samurai World!
10:11p, 12/4/16
In reply to bobinator
I'm guessing it was cut but they wanted to give due to a great character. She's the type of character that is a writer's favorite.
bobinator said:
Well Maeve turned down their pain level. But that was an odd post credit scene.
I'm guessing it was cut but they wanted to give due to a great character. She's the type of character that is a writer's favorite.
10:13p, 12/4/16
FYI....not a criticism but......something very GOT-esque......spoiler here if you seriously haven't watched GOT yet.....
Killing off Anthony Hopkins out of left field like that (if he is dead)....very much like killing off Sean Bean as Eddard Stark at the end of Season 1 Ep. 9 actually....but everyone freaked out. Went on for several seasons of speculation that maybe he wasn't dead and maybe it was a body double. Hell that still persists to this day. This will have the same type of thing....because of Anthony Hopkins but also because of the returning as a host possibility.
10:13p, 12/4/16
In reply to Zombie Jon Snow
Zombie Jon Snow said:
except it was an "S" on the signage.