*** MR. ROBOT Season 1 ***

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I'm in full agreement about Elliott and Mr. Robot being the same guy. Assuming that's true..... Elliott says that his dad was a top-notch tech engineer that died after a long, secretive bout with Leukemia. Mr. Robot says that his dad was a thief that eventually got caught and died a few years later in prison. So which is it? Or is it a little of both?

Great observation. I think "getting Leukemia and dying as an innocent Evil Corp victim" and "going to prison and dying as a guilty Evil Corp exec" could be the exact same thing. Possibly what Elliot doesn't realize (but Mr Robot does) is that his father wasn't innocent at all. Perhaps whatever killed the dad and thousands of others was his own idea. Mr Robot looks at his dad getting cancer like a criminal going to prison. It would also explain why Elliot (who doesn't know the whole story) is confused & upset that his dad refused to go after Evil Corp or explain his lack of action against Evil Corp.

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If Elliott is Mr. Robot, then did he try to kill himself at the end of episode 2?
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Ok...wtf did I just watch??
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Didn't the guy at the dope house talk to Mr Robot?
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Yes, but it was all in his head. He didn't get shot, and woke up in his hotel room. All a dream.
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I watched this episode closely.

At no time does he respond directly to Mr. Robot in front of others. Mr. Robot tells people things and he tells people things, but usually not during the same conversation. I'm on board as of now with them being one person.
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Ok...wtf did I just watch??

That's exactly what I said last night. I'm gonna watch it again to see if I can figure anything out.
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I watched this episode closely.

At no time does he respond directly to Mr. Robot in front of others. Mr. Robot tells people things and he tells people things, but usually not during the same conversation. I'm on board as of now with them being one person.


I agree. The way they cut the camera when Mr robot spoke made it look like people were reacting to him but there was no verbal response in any of the scenes that weren't hallucinations.
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I feel like they're being SO blatant about Mr. Robot not being real that it almost has to be a fake out; that in the next episode or two they're suddenly going to have a dozen characters have conversations with him, finally proving that he is, in fact, real. Otherwise, it's just so incredibly obvious and I don't want it to be that lame.
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And then they will hit us with a replay of all the scenes they were in but this time without Mr Robot.
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Overall liking it so far. Couple episodes have been a little odd. Agree with some of the storyline theories and political criticisms above. Look forward to seeing where the series goes.
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The only problem with this story is that if they take down the US economic system then it will just be replaced by one controlled by a much worse government like China. I hope they go into the significant geopolitical issues involved in doing something of this magnitude. Basically why E Corp may be bad, there are a lot worse entities out there. It would be intriguing if they had this happen and their scheme blew up in their face or had the mercenary hacker group be one that is controlled entirely by the Chinese (this is actually something they would do in real life).

The only thing that is unrealistic about this is that the governments are not involved yet. The main character is good but he would be ground to dust in the face of the NSA, which has hundreds of people who are just as capable and access to far better technology. You don't do something like this without catching their attention. Same thing with the Chinese, Russian, and Israeli intelligence agencies.

Also the other thing that is a little far fetched is that he's doing a lot of his hacking from home. That is not smart and how you get caught. Most of the guys like him remotely hack into insecure wireless networks and use their internet for illegal activities. It's fairly easy to do with the right equipment as well since most people are terrible at security.
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Have you ever enjoyed anything ever? I cannot imagine watching fiction through your eyes.
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Have you ever enjoyed anything ever? I cannot imagine watching fiction through your eyes.


I didn't say I didn't enjoy it because I did, a lot. It's now on my series recording list and one of the better technology shows that I've seen. My post above were just some things I was curious about how they may deal with them on the show.
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The only problem with this story is that if they take down the US economic system then it will just be replaced by one controlled by a much worse government like China. I hope they go into the significant geopolitical issues involved in doing something of this magnitude. Basically why E Corp may be bad, there are a lot worse entities out there. It would be intriguing if they had this happen and their scheme blew up in their face or had the mercenary hacker group be one that is controlled entirely by the Chinese (this is actually something they would do in real life).
First of all, we are only on the 4th episode of the season. Who's to say this isn't where the story goes? We haven't gotten that far and this could make a great "plot twist" or unintended consequence of their plan. While they are good at hacking, they aren't thinking about the larger picture and what the actual results may be.

Also, when Mr. Robot is first explaining the plan to Elliot, he talks about another hacking group (which we learn about later in episodes 3 and 4) that is taking care of part of the plan. Darlene gets upset and talks about how they are mercenaries and she doesn't want to work for them unless she has to because they will work with the Chinese who she talks about as being an evil force and causing problems.

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The only thing that is unrealistic about this is that the governments are not involved yet. The main character is good but he would be ground to dust in the face of the NSA, which has hundreds of people who are just as capable and access to far better technology. You don't do something like this without catching their attention. Same thing with the Chinese, Russian, and Israeli intelligence agencies.
Again, we don't know the governments aren't involved. Hell, we know the mysterious hacking syndicate that is blackmailing Ollie is working for some Chinese agency, whether its the government or corporation. But they are introducing external agencies and "forces" which are going to have an impact.

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Also the other thing that is a little far fetched is that he's doing a lot of his hacking from home. That is not smart and how you get caught. Most of the guys like him remotely hack into insecure wireless networks and use their internet for illegal activities. It's fairly easy to do with the right equipment as well since most people are terrible at security.
Did you miss the whole point about the arcade? They do all the hacking from there. The "hacking" that Elliot is doing is very "low level" stuff like reading emails and things like that. Who's he going to get in trouble with? All of the hacking we've seen him do at home is really just "illegal investigating". He's not changing data or anything like that, just finding out the truth and exposing people. And even then, who's to say he's not running encrypted tunnels to other locations and routing his traffic through more "unsecure" networks.

Also, remember in the opening scene when he brings down the coffee guy for child porn? Elliot talks about how he controls the exit node (server) on the TOR network and that's how he found him. If he's running that server, there's no way he could do that out of his home.

What I really like about this show is that the hacking and technology is really just a plot device for the main story. They get most of the details right and try and make it accurate, but the real story isn't even about hacking. It's a thriller about people and power.
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I loved the **** talking about the movie sneakers during the hotel scene a few weeks ago
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Also, while destroying his system he pulled some sim cards and threw them in the microwave. I thought he might've been using cards from burners with data plans to get online.
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Ok...wtf did I just watch??
An hour long acid trip mixed with about 26 commercials.
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I felt really sad for the Sales Manager guy in ep1.4
agmatt06
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They absolutely destroyed him and then his supervisor.

This show is really getting intense and dark.
chjoak
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You talking about 1.5: Elliot Hacks Steel Mountain?

Was it just me or in the wide shots does it look like Bill (guy giving tour) has pissed his pants?
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Yeah, that dude got destroyed. It is definitely a dark show.
On another note, the theory of Mr. Robot and Elliot being the same person is still alive 5 episodes in.
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You talking about 1.5: Elliot Hacks Steel Mountain?

Was it just me or in the wide shots does it look like Bill (guy giving tour) has pissed his pants?
"eps1.4_3xpl0its.wmv"

episode 1 was "eps1.0_hellofriend.mov"
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Yeah, that dude got destroyed. It is definitely a dark show.
On another note, the theory of Mr. Robot and Elliot being the same person is still alive 5 episodes in.

Yeah..Mr. Robot talking into his ear and telling him what to do seemed so obvious that it almost can't be...

Then of course they show Mr. Robot blow up on the one chick and Elliot calming her down.

It's a really weird show.
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Yeah, I saw that as the one side of him (Mr. Robot) was yelling at her and then he switched to the calmer side (Elliot) so he would get what he wanted. Then what was up with the ending? When Tyrell and his wife were at the house and he walked into the bathroom. I was like
chjoak
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Tyrell is a weird dude. His character has made the show very odd at times.
AggieChemE09
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If you died right now, would anyone care? Would they really care? Maybe they'd cry for a day. But let's be honest, no one would give a ****. They wouldn't. The few people who'd feel obligated to go to your funeral would probably be annoyed and leave as early as possible. That's who you are. That's what you are. You're nothing. To anyone. To everyone. Think about it. Because if you do, if you let yourself, you'll know I'm telling you the truth. So instead of wasting any more of my time, I need you to call someone that matters. Because you, Bill? You don't.
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4 episodes in and this show is trying way too hard to hit every single slang comment and hip techy talking point there is.

Fun idea for USA, but this isn't anything like it actually goes down. For the most part the crowd is socially inept, but not hip and demographically correct like this.

Real world ain't like "Hackers", but it's not like this either.
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I think the hosts' wife was giving a little "eye" to Tyrell during dinner. Tyrell noticed and made his move with the "how do you live with this guy without blowing your brains out", comment. She scoffs and excuses herself, but he thinks she was secretly turned on by the comment. If she was really that insulted, why did she just temporarily excuse herself? Why did she not politely invite them to leave and end the dinner party? If a guest made a comment to me about my wife like that, I damn sure would tell them to GTFO right there...

He barges into the bathroom and just stands there to force a reaction from her, will she scream, or will she be turned on? Once she leans back, Tyrell proves his answer, shows to her that he knows she's attracted, and demeans her by walking out...

He's going to exploit this attraction/embarrassment...
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I like Tyrell's character. Dark and dangerous sociopathic antagonist who wants power and money and so does his wife. Although it's hard for me to determine who is the real protagonist and antagonist in this show. Elliott in my opinion has done worse things thus far compared to Tyrell (that we know of). The writers are obviously having us sympathesize with Elliott, since he is the main character.

Look forward to seeing how the show unfolds.
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I think Tyrell may have more motives than just power. He clearly has some sort of agenda that seems to suggest he may be conducting espionage for a foreign government. I think there is much more to him than just power motives.

Also I think the mercenary hacking group is not actually a mercenary group at all, rather it's controlled by a foreign government like North Korea or China. Them not going through with the attack indicates that they clearly want to shut down US operations and want the date on foreign soil. I do not think this is a coincidence.

Mr. Robot's group is playing with fire here on a level where there are a lot of vested interests.

Also, does anyone else get a Deus Ex feel here? That of global conspiracies, high tech, hacking, etc. Even the music is reminiscient of the games. About the only thing it doesn't have is the body modifications with cybernetic implants and nanotech.

Another good episode in this show. Next week is going to be interesting with the old world style criminal going up against the new world kind. The contrast is pretty striking.
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Did you enjoy Breaking Bad? An ex-high school chemistry teacher takes down the Mexican cartel in about fifteen minutes. And they never exact revenge.
Vander
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Never really watched Breaking Bad, so I don't know.
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I'm really liking this show. I've seen episodes 1-3 so far and a little bit of episode 4.

I thought it was pretty clear in episode 3 (i think) that Mr. Robot is not real and is just in Elliot's head. First, Mr. Robot just shows up at Elliot's workplace which seems like something that would never happen. Then, he is being loud and somewhat causing a scene, but no one seems to notice or respond to him.

Then, they leave and go to the bar. Mr. Robot is drinking an Apple Martini. Elliot orders the same thing. Mr. Robot makes a few comments but the bartender never responds to him. The bartender also looks to Elliot to pay for the drink and never looks at Mr. Robot.
agmatt06
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Very dark episode.

He's definitely struggling to hold it together.
 
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