Just listened to the whole thing in one go on a drive to/from Lubbock. I don't get how anyone can complain about SK "wanting Adnan to be innocent," and then list all the reasons SK herself presented for why he may not be for why that's a bad thing. I feel like she presented more than enough anti-Adnan evidence to move her away from some sort of Adnan cheerleader. At the end of the day, she just reached a different conclusion than you did based on really ambiguous facts.
My impression was more one of, "I really don't know what happened, but I've spent a lot of time talking to this guy and he just doesn't seem like he could do this." Which as she admitted toward the end is basically the same place a lot of his friends ended up at. And on top of that, she does say she has serious doubts about him.
I pretty much agree with her. I'm in the "I think there's a more than decent chance he did it, but I wouldn't have convicted" crowd. The most damning thing to me is Jay knowing where Hae's car was. This completly kills any serial killer theory to me. Jay was definitely involved. Once a random third party is elimiated you're left with Adnan and Jay, and I just don't see Jay having any reason to kill her independent of Adnan. His story was inconsistent and hard to follow, but everyone seemed to agree Adnan's phone was near Leakin park when Jay said they were burying her. I just don't think he was smart enough to create a trail of evidence like that, especially in 1999 when cell phones were relatively new.
Dana's summary of all the unlucky coincidences at the end was really good. If he's innocent, a lot of things have to go wrong on that particular day for him to be wrongfully convicted. But still, even with all that, Jay is an unreliable witness, there's no physical evidence, and we don't even know when Hae died. A big part of the state's case was the Nisha call. Without her testimony that she talked to Jay at the porn theater, I'd put that firmly in the "hang him" column, but it seems more likely she was mixing the Jan. 13 call up with a later call since Jay wasn't working at the theater then.
Anyway, I'm drunk and honestly have no idea and this thing is driving me crazy. But I don't feel like SK was all up on Adnan's nuts. Every single reason any listener could have for thinking he's guilty, they got directly from the same podcast and SK herself. She seemed even handed on presenting pro- and anti-Adnan info; she just reached a more pro-Adnan conclusion because she's actually interacted with him a bunch. I think that's understandable.
My impression was more one of, "I really don't know what happened, but I've spent a lot of time talking to this guy and he just doesn't seem like he could do this." Which as she admitted toward the end is basically the same place a lot of his friends ended up at. And on top of that, she does say she has serious doubts about him.
I pretty much agree with her. I'm in the "I think there's a more than decent chance he did it, but I wouldn't have convicted" crowd. The most damning thing to me is Jay knowing where Hae's car was. This completly kills any serial killer theory to me. Jay was definitely involved. Once a random third party is elimiated you're left with Adnan and Jay, and I just don't see Jay having any reason to kill her independent of Adnan. His story was inconsistent and hard to follow, but everyone seemed to agree Adnan's phone was near Leakin park when Jay said they were burying her. I just don't think he was smart enough to create a trail of evidence like that, especially in 1999 when cell phones were relatively new.
Dana's summary of all the unlucky coincidences at the end was really good. If he's innocent, a lot of things have to go wrong on that particular day for him to be wrongfully convicted. But still, even with all that, Jay is an unreliable witness, there's no physical evidence, and we don't even know when Hae died. A big part of the state's case was the Nisha call. Without her testimony that she talked to Jay at the porn theater, I'd put that firmly in the "hang him" column, but it seems more likely she was mixing the Jan. 13 call up with a later call since Jay wasn't working at the theater then.
Anyway, I'm drunk and honestly have no idea and this thing is driving me crazy. But I don't feel like SK was all up on Adnan's nuts. Every single reason any listener could have for thinking he's guilty, they got directly from the same podcast and SK herself. She seemed even handed on presenting pro- and anti-Adnan info; she just reached a more pro-Adnan conclusion because she's actually interacted with him a bunch. I think that's understandable.
