Thank you Johnny Football
Albatross Necklace said:
Did he kill his wife and a waiter?
AnimalA10 said:This, slap in the face to all the athletes who did follow the rules.agnerd said:
Guess I'm the only one that doesn't think he should get it back. He broke the rules, he knew he broke the rules, he decided it was worth the risk of getting caught, he got caught, and then thinks the consequences shouldn't apply to him.
I didn't meet the lofty GPA requirements of one of my college scholarships. I guess I need to start a PR campaign on how I DESERVE to have that scholarship money given to me even though I didn't hold up my end of the bargain.
spherical said:
I don't have an opinion on the original rules… but
If it's agreed that the original rules were wrong/illegal(antitrust)/whatever - the analogy might be that ….If a law that locked someone up is determined to be unjust years later they don't leave the guy locked up.
Happy for Reggie! He deserves his trophy.
— JT The Brick (@JTTheBrick) April 24, 2024
That being said, let me remind you that there's been THOUSANDS of days in which #USC did absolutely NOTHING to help him get his Heisman back. https://t.co/7dmhEd7ON6
TexAggie1999 said:spherical said:
I don't have an opinion on the original rules… but
If it's agreed that the original rules were wrong/illegal(antitrust)/whatever - the analogy might be that ….If a law that locked someone up is determined to be unjust years later they don't leave the guy locked up.
In reality though, if you are convicted and sentenced for a crime that was illegal at the time you committed it, the change to the law has no bearing on the sentence. They do NOT let you out of jail or reduce your sentence. You stay locked up.
Know Your Enemy said:AnimalA10 said:This, slap in the face to all the athletes who did follow the rules.agnerd said:
Guess I'm the only one that doesn't think he should get it back. He broke the rules, he knew he broke the rules, he decided it was worth the risk of getting caught, he got caught, and then thinks the consequences shouldn't apply to him.
I didn't meet the lofty GPA requirements of one of my college scholarships. I guess I need to start a PR campaign on how I DESERVE to have that scholarship money given to me even though I didn't hold up my end of the bargain.
Just because they didn't get caught doesn't mean they followed the rules. Are you guys really this dumb or are you trolling?
I think Vince Young makes those statements because the Heisman was awarded before the National Championship game and he outplayed Reggie Bush in the National Championship. I don't think it has anything to do with Reggie Bush being stripped of the Heisman.dixichkn said:
I just like it because it'll piss off VY. Been running around for years claiming he's "the REAL Heisman winner 2005". I hope this sticks in his rather prodigious gut. Remember him running around the interview table after the Rose Bowl game screaming about "who da Heisman now? WHO DA HEISMAN NOW?!!!" He cared more about that damn trophy than he did winning the championship. Hope he's hating this immensely.
Wonder what Honor Landry thinks of this?
Ag_0112358132134 said:agnerd said:
Guess I'm the only one that doesn't think he should get it back. He broke the rules, he knew he broke the rules, he decided it was worth the risk of getting caught, he got caught, and then thinks the consequences shouldn't apply to him.
I didn't meet the lofty GPA requirements of one of my college scholarships. I guess I need to start a PR campaign on how I DESERVE to have that scholarship money given to me even though I didn't hold up my end of the bargain.
If somebody in California smoked a joint and got put in state prison for five years, and California legalized marijuana one month after the five year prison sentence started, do you think that person should still serve the entire five years for something that is not illegal?
If a slave in the southern United States broke the law by running away in 1963 and was put in prison for life, and slavery was outlawed in 1964 (all of this actually happened by the way), do you think that person should still serve a life sentence in prison? He broke the rules, right? He knew the rules and decided it was worth the risk, and he got caught, right?
Hint: the only appropriate answer to these questions is "no." If your answer is anything other than "no" then you are bat **** crazy and there is no reasoning with you.
I'm going to postulate that breaking NCAA rules and losing a trophy maybe aren't moral equivalents of slavery and life imprisonment, so the craziness that would follow from thinking the life imprisonment should stand after the Emancipation Proclamation doesn't directly translate to someone thinking Bush shouldn't automatically get his trophy back now that getting paid is no longer fully illegal.Ag_0112358132134 said:
Yeah, I got the dates wrong. There was a slave who received a life sentence the year before slavery was outlawed. The point stands.
GoldenGun00 said:I'm going to postulate that breaking NCAA rules and losing a trophy maybe aren't moral equivalents of slavery and life imprisonment, so the craziness that would follow from thinking the life imprisonment should stand after the Emancipation Proclamation doesn't directly translate to someone thinking Bush shouldn't automatically get his trophy back now that getting paid is no longer fully illegal.Ag_0112358132134 said:
Yeah, I got the dates wrong. There was a slave who received a life sentence the year before slavery was outlawed. The point stands.
Sure they are, 1964.Ag_0112358132134 said:GoldenGun00 said:I'm going to postulate that breaking NCAA rules and losing a trophy maybe aren't moral equivalents of slavery and life imprisonment, so the craziness that would follow from thinking the life imprisonment should stand after the Emancipation Proclamation doesn't directly translate to someone thinking Bush shouldn't automatically get his trophy back now that getting paid is no longer fully illegal.Ag_0112358132134 said:
Yeah, I got the dates wrong. There was a slave who received a life sentence the year before slavery was outlawed. The point stands.
They aren't moral equivalents, but they are logical equivalents.