Letter from "A. Cadet" to General Ramirez

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GARBQ84
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What a little *****. Man up and put your name to it:

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Sir,
I want to start this letter by saying that I am a proud Aggie and member of the Corps here at Texas A&M. However, I am writing this letter to address several grievances I currently have with the Corps of Cadets here at Texas A&M. I feel that these grievances are hurting cadets academically and financially and will negatively impact the Corps in the future.

I know the legitimacy of my letter is questionable, as it is anonymously written. Many of my fellow cadets share the same opinions I have and are simply unwilling to bring it up due to fear of repressions, ridicule or their voice not be heard. I am writing this letter for them, my fellow cadets. Any cadet, if they wish to, can put their name on it and let their problems be known.
My first complaint is with the fact that cadets are REQUIRED to take classes that have no practical application to their major, ROTC and SOMS classes. All cadets have to take these classes to be in the Corps, as per federal law, however they do not count for anything meaningful; if you decide to commission and take all four years of ROTC classes (24 credits) you get one political science and one history elective (6 credits, ¼ of what was taken) as compensation. Cadets that choose to go D&C have four semesters of classes (12 credits) that are utterly worthless and cannot apply towards their degree plan. SOMS classes are required to receive a leadership certificate and are required whether or not we are pursuing the certificate. Many cadets, myself included, simply cannot take additional classes for the certificate because some majors (engineering in particular) already require students to take 17-18 hours a semester and are already behind on their studies due to the ROTC requirement. To put this into a financial perspective: 1 credit hour at A&M costs $600.40, and with cadets needing at least 12 credits of ROTC classes, this results in $7,204.80 going to credits that have NO impact on their major almost comparable to one semester of tuition, which is $9006 for 15 credit hours. This problem is easy to fix, make ROTC classes count towards electives, like history or political sciences.

Cadets are at a SIGNIFICANT academic disadvantage as compared to the normal college student. Even though cadets had a higher received a GPR than the University average, it comes at a price. Because cadets are required to take certain classes and are typically dealing with more stress that the average student, most cadets end up needing to take AT LEAST one extra semester, many are here for an extra year or two. Despite the fact we, as cadets, put in comparable hours into our organization and our school that any athlete would put into their team; student-athletes are given permission to register for classes earlier than most of the school.Cadets have a HARDER time registering for classes as they have to take classes that fit around required activities and classes as best they can.

Along with the extra semester most cadets take here, there are many other “Hidden Costs” or forced payments the Corps are required to pay and, chief among them being paying $225 for football games that we are REQUIRED to attend. It is understandable that has to partially pay for the tickets, we do attend the games and are taking up the seat. But paying the same rate as other students that have an option to purchase a pass or not is ridiculous. The band is already attending games for free; the rest of the Corps is required to attend and why can’t they receive a similar benefit? The Corps is also not completely honest with how much the organization costs when recruiting. They fail to mention costs such as tickets to other required events, outfit dues, t-shirts, uniform parts (not counting uniforms which are expensive considering we’re renting them) and other small things that add up. Cadets also pay the same price as non-regs for things that, quality-wise, are not equal. It is no secret that the food in Duncan is terrible, it’s a joke among the cadets, and we pay the same amount as non-regs. Our rooms are half the price of a non-reg room, but are easily ¼ the quality. Many former cadets didn’t quit because they hated the Corps, they quit because they couldn’t afford it. It is almost robbery when you think about what we are paying for as compared to what we get in return.

One of the greatest accomplishments of the Corps is that it is growing at an exponential rate. What’s upsetting is that we are NOT being allocated housing to accommodate that growth. Cadets are now being forced to live 3 to a room; rooms specifically designed to hold 2 people and are BARELY being compensated for it financially, some outfits will have roughly 50% of their membership tripled up and sorely inconvenienced. As alluded to previously, cadets are paying over $2000 a year for a room, half of what a non-reg would pay. Our rooms are TERRIBLE, most of the furniture are in some way broken and we have limited access to amenities such as laundry machines (which are usually broken and are a good distance away for some) that are plentiful to non-regs. The Corps of Cadets should make it a PRIORITY to get acceptable housing for its cadets; we are, by law, required to live on campus. Is that an inconvenience for the University, yes, is it an excuse to force people to live in cramped, overfilled and overpriced rooms, no.

My last grievance is the borderline abus that the cadets are put through by the University. Essentially, cadets are expected to, almost at the drop of a hat, volunteer for University-affiliated activities, servers at dining events, ushers and timekeepers at sporting events, and are expected to accept that there will be little to no compensation this service. We have had evening and weekends taken away from us, because the university wants us to march into a sporting event, for a 30-second crowd pass on ESPN. Trips home and valuable study time taken away, so the school can look good. There is not a Texas A&M University commercial or pamphlet out that does not picture or mention the Corps in some way. We are used as a recruiting tool, then shoved on the backburner when we aren’t needed. It is despicable and tiring.

Sir, I want to say I am fully aware of the fact that many, if not all, of my grievances are not directly under your control. Because of your position as our Commandant, I feel that you are in the best position to make these changes happen. I also have one request, make this letter public, for all to see. Many of these changes can only be made if there is enough public pressure behind them. Let cadets read it so they can voice their own opinions; Let Ol' Ags read this so they can help push for what the Corps needs. These changes need to happen because of negative effects the current conditions will have on the future of the Corps. It will be difficult to recruit new cadets and retain the current ones if they are all forced to live 4 to a room, if they can’t afford to go to A&M because of items that they are forced to pay for or if they simply want to graduate in a reasonable amount of time. I will be posting this on various social media sites, such as Reddit and Facebook, and to various other media locations on Monday July 1st, 2013. We need to be as transparent as possible on these issues.

To sum up all of my grievances briefly: the Corps of Cadets at Texas A&M is one of this nation's premiere leadership organizations and is rightfully advertised as such; all I want is for this organization and it’s members to be treated fairly and not have to deal unfair and undeserved financial, academic and situational burdens that they are already dealing with. I look forward to working together to make these changes possible.

Very Respectfully,


A. Cadet
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CT'97
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Are we sure this is a cadet?
Seems fake to me.
OldArmy07
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Sounds pretty petty to me.

If you don't want the SOMS or extra required expenses, don't join the Corps. I thought they were pretty clearly spelled out when I chose to join.

A better solution would be to petition to have the MLSC or SOMS classes count towards electives that go towards a degree plan.

I wasn't aware that that many cadets were having to live 3 to a room. How big of an issue is overcrowding?
ABATTBQ87
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Cadets are now being forced to live 3 to a room; rooms specifically designed to hold 2 people


really?
PetroAg87
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I wasn't aware that that many cadets were having to live 3 to a room. How big of an issue is overcrowding?
General Ramirez mentioned at the New Student Conference Corps sign up event that there is a possibility that some Corps member may have to start off three to a room.

He also stated that under no circumstances would this happen to fish but that he will ask for VOLUNTEERS from the upperclassmen if it becomes necessary. If I recall correctly, he threw out a number ~$450 that would be credited back to anyone who volunteered which he believes will be enough to ensure that the only people tripled up will be those volunteering. He also mentioned that he would not expect this tripling up to last all semester as natural attrition will free up spaces early in the Semester.
jock15
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What a freaking moron...
GAC06
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If you're going to write a letter like that, you had better at least check it for errors.
bigtruckguy3500
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Where was this letter posted?

My thoughts (skip to number 5 for the main one):
1) SOMS and ROTC classes for the D&C cadets are what you make of them. I learned a lot in my military science classes and my SOMS classes that I have put to good use in the civilian world. I was an engineering major, and I graduated in 5 years, but I still would rather take these classes than not. But if the classes could count towards the core curriculum, I wouldn't mind. Although I imagine the Commandant has virtually no input in this.

2) Sure, I would've loved to have the opportunity to register for classes as athletes, but thousands of cadets managed before me, and I somehow managed while I was there. And I knew non-regs who were busier with jobs and classes than just about every cadet, and they never whined about them not getting to register early.

3) I can sympathize with the financial aspects, as it was difficult for me often. But I personally liked Duncan chow, I liked the fact that I was getting the cheapest housing on campus, I didn't have to buy as many clothes for day to day wear as my nonreg counterparts, and I got a scholarship from the Corps that more than covered all these expenses. Most cadets don't get as much in scholarships as I did, but they're still getting a pretty decent amount to at least defray costs. And if you don't want to have broken furniture in the dorms, maybe cadets should quit breaking things and pretending they didn't do anything.

4) I will agree with this point, that it's tough being asked to volunteer so much time in service of the school when we are expected to have above a 3.0 to even be remotely competitive in the job market (at least as an engineer). I remember being tasked with getting "volunteers" for an event the Corps was volunteering for, and I felt like crap forcing underclassmen to do this when I knew I couldn't do it because I had exams. But the vast majority of the time you're given enough advance notice that you should be able to plan ahead and manage your time so it shouldn't affect you much. Most of the rest of the time, when you don't get advance notice, it's because a whitebelt somewhere in the chain of command procrastinated and forgot to tell someone on the outfit level, or the outfit level forgot to tell members.

5) Suck it up. I did, and so did many that came before you. Quit looking for problems, find solutions, and take it up the chain of command. Others in the past have done just that. In fact, because of those that have done just that in the past, you're not automatically having lunch deducted from your meals M-W like mine were.
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KC Aggie
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It appears that the author sent an e-mail to everyone in the Corps. The author also mentioned that it would be posted on other social media sites such as Facebook. The author made some good points which shouldn't be dismissed out of hand because the author chose to remain anonymous or is "new army". I have a son in the Corps, and I share some of those concerns, especially about housing and the time commitment.
Noblemen06
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I knew a lot of folks who punched out ('02-'06) but none of them did it because of the cost...
OldArmy07
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The time commitment argument is a bit overused.

Being in the Corps does take up a lot of time. Part of the experience is learning to manage your time more effectively. Some of my buddies with the highest grades were also involved in the most activities (both on the quad and off). Some of those with lower grades weren't involved in anything outside of the Corps.

Even outside of the Corps, those that are making really poor grades probably wouldn't benefit much academically from not being in the Corps. If someone isn't making decisions with academic goals in mind while they are in the Corps, they probably won't outside either.

The mandatory off-the-quad PR events that the cadet speaks of could very quickly be made optional if the cadet made a case for NEEDING to study for a test or work in a dining hall to pay for housing. The reality is that the majority of cadets would end up shooting the ****, sleeping or going out to drink if you gave them that time back.
OldArmy71
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*Yawn*
Tango Mike
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Lol, it took me all of 12 minutes to trace the email back to who wrote it, and I'm not even a computer science genius.

Emails have paper trails. If you want to buck up to someone, sign your name to it.
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A. Cadet


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tacosandburritos
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What an ultramaroon! If these are his grievances then he joined the wrong organization.
ChrisHansen
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A.Cadet
HBCanine08
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Good grief. I knew plenty of engineering students who didn't complain like this kid.
oldarmyisdead
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Old Army is dead..
oldarmyisdead
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It's like this kid signed up for the corps because he thought it would get him laid or something and now it's not working out for him. Guess he didn't understand that the corps is a service organization with paramilitary structure. And why the hell not just go to General Ramirez in person?? what a ***!!
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What a sad sack...do yourself and the rest of us that are proud of the suck we went through and punch
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And if you're a parent of a current cadet and "have similar concerns" like some posters, do yourself and your child a favor and let them fend for themselves, endure some hardships, make their own decisions, and grow from the experience. Quit coddling them and be so quick to sweep in to protect your little johnny
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OldArmy07
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That gif is awesome.
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KnocknessMonster
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ACadet2013
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So I may have gotten into his email. Anything funny you guys want me to send from it?
BQ_90
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Best it was some cadets Mom.

But on a purely unrelated note, what happens when the quad is filled? Will they turn people away if they don't have enough housing?


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If you really want to be in the Corps but have no money, you'll figure it out. For instance, one of my buddies sold plasma to have extra cash since the Corps strapped him financially.

It was funny because he had to regulate the nights he went out drinking so he could still donate weekly.
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GARBQ84
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how did you hack the email? lol
RTB Ag
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Smoke him.
 
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