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The dream is dead. Expect an announcement this time tomorrow.

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CrottyKid
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Sherman is staying. Will get vote of confidence from everyone tomorrow at about this time. Changes in the staff will be addressed after the bowl game, which they "look forward to coaching."
zmurda
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basing this on...??
harge57
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Why would there be an announcement that "Sherm is staying"

Would be better to just not say anything.
Loaded
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why are the folks with stars coming in the free area to spill the beans? didn't you pay to have access to the insider info?
zmurda
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troll?

Buford Tannen
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Give me your melt, Todd
Bilbo Aggins
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Patience.

Sherman is gone.

MarshallGal03
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that's not coming from the premium board
CrottyKid
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quote:


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <president@tamu.edu>
Date: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:41 PM
Subject: Coaches
To: xxxxxxxxx@gmail.com


Dear xxxx,

Thank you for your email. Although I do not agree with your
assessment of our athletic department, I do agree that a winning
football team will help our general marketing efforts. I also agree
that good football drums up interest in our school from prospective
students. However, with the changes in our conference affiliation, it
is our philosophy that stability at the head coach position is in the best
interest of Texas A&M football.
Thank you for your input. Comments from students are always valuable to
me.




Then some stuff about another issue I emailed about registration.
Buford Tannen
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Ok because that all looks "official"
Bilbo Aggins
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Do you think they are going to tell you they are firing Sherman?

Sherman will resign just like Fran did. Or if we are lucky go back to the NFL.

SHERMAN IS GONE PEOPLE. The die was cast a while back.

Just be patient.
CrottyKid
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The announcement time is purely speculative, but the reason they would announce something would be to stop rampant rumors and potential negative recruiting tactics.

It is my belief that Byrne or Loftin will release a Wednesday email of some sort that will casually say, "Oh. We've heard some rumors that Sherman's position is not stable. This is false. We are fully behind Mike Sherman as he and his coaches prepare for the bowl season."
CrottyKid
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Albatross, It is copied directly from my gmail account.
Token
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quote:
Ok because that all looks "official"

an email from loftin himself looks pretty damn official
Buford Tannen
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Why would he spill the beans to you in your Gmail account before making an announcement?
RikkiTikkaTagem
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He sent this to me about 1 hour later:

quote:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <president@tamu.edu>
Date: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:41 PM
Subject: Coaches
To: xxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com


Dear BMA,

Thank you for your email. I completely agree with your sentiment about dumping dead weight and we'll be conducting a new head coach search as soon as possible. We will strive to bring in the best.

I will also be officially changing my name to "Honey Badger". Thanks for the advice and the donations.
CrottyKid
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I guess he didn't want to answer my other question and ignore the elephant.
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I've been seeing Bilbo Aggins post that Sherman is gone for weeks now.

Been following him down a dark path while he holds a torch that brings some light. He better not turn around and set me afire.

(watching teenagers exercise is serious business)
CM Punk
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That is strange here is the e-mail I just got back from Loftin:

quote:
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <president@tamu.edu>
Date: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:31 PM
Subject: Coaches
To: xxxxxxx@gmail.com


Dear xxx,

Thank you for your email. Although I do not agree with your
assessment of our athletic department, I do agree that a winning
football team will help our general marketing efforts. I also agree
that good football drums up interest in our school from prospective
students, and with the changes in our conference affiliation I think it is best that we make a coaching change soon, possibly within a few days. Comments from students are always valuable to
me, so thanks for taking the time for writing me.


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Citizen Reign
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Bilbo

who is coming up with the $9 MM for his contract?

Who is coming up with the $20 MM+ Big12 exit fee?

Who is coming up with the $16 MM to pay back the university?

$45MM

don't see it happening
Bilbo Aggins
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Or they announce he is gone.

They are not going to tip their hat one way or another in an email to a student.

Stability in coaching could also mean a new staff that is not on the hot seat (which we all know Sherman will be).

Frankly, an AD CFO spilling the beans about split over Sherman on texags is more telling than an official email to a student.


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Bilbo

who is coming up with the $9 MM for his contract?

Who is coming up with the $20 MM+ Big12 exit fee?

Who is coming up with the $16 MM to pay back the university?

$45MM

don't see it happening



The big 12 exit fee is taken out of tv money. It will be no more than $15 million and likely closer to $12 million. The buyout is no where near $9 million, even it was it would not be paid out at once.

The loan is paid out over time.

There is nothing close to $45 million that will paid out over the next year or even 10 years.

Sherman is gone. Just be patient.



[This message has been edited by Bilbo Aggins (edited 11/29/2011 1:55p).]
Citizen Reign
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Oh, and what about the new/rebuild stadium?
carpe vinum
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Autoreply, BRILLIANT!
superunknown
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quote:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <president@tamu.edu>
Date: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:51 PM
Subject: Coaches
To: xxxxxxx@gmail.com


Dear xxx,


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BQDAD08
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its the smart play; like it or not.
BoozerRed78
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AG
Numerous BMAs were observed today having lunch at Chicken Oil. They all had checkbooks protruding from their shirt pockets.
zmurda
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they all look like the monopoly man...

AgBeliever
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Bilbo

who is coming up with the $9 MM for his contract?

Who is coming up with the $20 MM+ Big12 exit fee?

Who is coming up with the $16 MM to pay back the university?

$45MM

don't see it happening


Me neither.

Add to it the Cotton Bowl last year, all the close losses this year, 12th in Saragin and currently a 6th ranked recruiting class.

The natives are restless though (myself included), so the situation needs to be handled with care.
Incorrect, sir!
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quote:
quote:
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <president@tamu.edu>
Date: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM
Subject: Chochas
To: xxxxxxx@gmail.com


Dear xxx,

Everyone on Texags can be described by the subject line of this email.

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AgBeliever
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The big 12 exit fee is taken out of tv money. It will be no more than $15 million and likely closer to $12 million. The buyout is no where near $9 million, even it was it would not be paid out at once.

The loan is paid out over time.

There is nothing close to $45 million that will paid out over the next year or even 10 years.


Even if it "only" around 35 mil, that is still a big chunk of change, especially when we want to do some work on Kyle.
Jcarp02
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Bilbo- you seem very sure if he is gone. Wondering if you are basing that off the same info that I got.
Bilbo Aggins
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It will not be paid out all at once. And in the case of the big12 it is not paid out at all.

And Kyle renovations are crap if you have a dead man walking leading the program.

Sherman is gone people.

You have the CFO trying to get his side out on a website (his side being to keep Sherman) about his department's battle with the President, two former coaches, with one being a former BOR.

What does that tell you about Sherman's job?
Paul Biegler, Esq.
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Add to it the Cotton Bowl last year, all the close losses this year, 12th in Saragin and currently a 6th ranked recruiting class.




Big f'n deal. The Cotton Bowl? A&M should go to the Cotton Bowl with regularity. That's part of the problem. Just because it's been a while since we've been there, people act like it's some great accomplishment. 2010 was, overall, a good season. Not great by any stretch. Good. 9-4 is "good" at Texas A&M, it's not great, and shouldn't be. Close losses? Yes, where we repeatedly made the exact same mistakes in game management over and over and over and over and over again. All the the same result. The 6th ranked recruiting class. It will likely finish around 10-12. That's solid, but that's ONE class. One. That's not nearly enough to justify holding onto any coach. Especially under the current circumstances where stacking classes like that are going to be even more difficult considering the current status of our staff.
AgResearch
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http://blog.mysanantonio.com/aggies/2011/11/aggies-athletics-cfo-admits-to-calling-am-president-putz/
Brewmaster
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I like your optimism Bilbo! and no I'm not being sarcastic.

if Honey Badger wants him gone, I bet he's gone.

100 year decision on conference + SEC coaching decision
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