*** official interesting things in the CWS thread ***

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Miami walks in the first run of the game in the Top of the 1st.
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The non National Seeds definitely came to play some serious baseball.
Gig'em, Ole Army Class of '70
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Corey Raley, Hayden Howard and Rex Hill's teams playing today is an interesting CWS tidbit.
TexasRebel
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Huge replay in the CCU v. UF game to give CCU a fair ball with 2 on.

No chalk appears in the debris from the impact...
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And that play is the difference in the game. CWS is official bull****.
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And that play is the difference in the game. CWS is official bull****.


I saw chalk....but then again I don't live my life for the SEC, so who knows?!!
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Any proof?
TexasRebel
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The only thing worse than getting a call wrong on the field, is getting a call correct on the field and then ****ing it up on the first review ever.
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And that play is the difference in the game. CWS is official bull****.


I saw chalk....but then again I don't live my life for the SEC, so who knows?!!


Did you see chalk when Barash hit the ball over the left field fence to walk it off on you earlier this year?
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Miami & UCSB in a rain delay.

1-1 in the 6th
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I thought they got the call correct.

The ball clipped the foul line; as they ball hits the ground, you can see it cuts into the view of the foul line.

http://www.omaha.com/sports/cws/cws-blog/instant-replay-used-at-cws-for-first-time-sunday/article_bf32916e-3681-11e6-8dfd-cbb9e067fe5c.html
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If the ball had hit the foul line you would see chalk on the dirt next to the impact. In this case you see dirt on the chalk indicating the ball did not land on the line, but outside of it.
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Meh. You're really caught up on that but I can't tell if there is or isn't chalk on the brown dirt or if there is or isn't brown dirt on the chalk. The ball would have clipped the foul line so the amount of chalk kicked up would have been minimal and there would have been more brown dirt kicked up.

I see the ball skewing my view of the foul line as it hits the ground and bounces back up. Physics says that if I'm seeing it right, it must have at least clipped fair territory. And if it clips fair territory it is fair.
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About to pull the tarp. Play to resume at 3:40 CT
TexasRebel
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The definition of a foul ball from the NCAA rule book for 2016:
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Foul Ball
SECTION 35. A batted ball that:
c. First touches foul territory beyond first or third base.



That is why the chalk is important. The ball contacts the ground at a single point. Not an area. It doesn't matter what the ball eclipses, but what it contacts first.
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Sitting here watching a fired up UCSB fan base take it all in.

sweet for them
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The definition of a foul ball from the NCAA rule book for 2016:
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Foul Ball
SECTION 35. A batted ball that:
c. First touches foul territory beyond first or third base.



That is why the chalk is important. The ball contacts the ground at a single point. Not an area. It doesn't matter what the ball eclipses, but what it contacts first.
Oh, come on. Don't be so obtuse.

Baseballs don't contact the ground at a single point---you can go outside right now and throw a baseball on some dirt and see that for yourself.

And with that said, the rules aren't asking umpires to decipher which atom of the baseball hit first and where that atom hit. The entire ball has to be in foul territory to be foul. I don't think it was yesterday.
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It's not obtuse in the slightest.

A sphere contacts a plane initially at a single point. If that point is on the chalk line, you see chalk kick up.

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The entire ball has to be in foul territory to be foul.

This is incorrect.
TexasRebel
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UCSB eliminates Miami.

5-3 Final.
AggieBB
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It's not obtuse in the slightest.

A sphere contacts a plane initially at a single point. If that point is on the chalk line, you see chalk kick up.

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The entire ball has to be in foul territory to be foul.

This is incorrect.


How so? If any part of the ball touches the foul line it is a fair ball. You know this right? Doesn't matter if 3/4 of the ball lands foul and 1/4 of the ball touches the line. Still a fair ball.
TexasRebel
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If 3/4 of the ball lands foul, the ball will not touch the line.
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So are you trying to say that only one part of the ball touches the ground when it lands? Yeah, you're being obtuse.
TXAggie2011
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It's not obtuse in the slightest.

A sphere contacts a plane initially at a single point. If that point is on the chalk line, you see chalk kick up.

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The entire ball has to be in foul territory to be foul.

This is incorrect.
You're acting about as obtuse as when the rapper B.o.B. denied the earth was not a sphere---which was really, really obtuse.

But what's new.
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Yes. Only one part of the baseball contacts earth first before compression and displacement come into play.

Let's say a field places a flag pole in foul territory, 1 inch away from the 1st base line. If a line drive skims off of the 3rd base side of the pole... Fair or foul? (A baseball is around 2.9" diameter)
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On a homerun the middle of the ball has to hit the foul pole for it to be fair. It can't glance off to one side.

The foul pole being fair is confusing....
TexasRebel
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Ah.

In that case contacting the foul pole means the ball first contacted fair territory beyond 1st or 3rd base.
TXAggie2011
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If 3/4 of the ball lands foul, the ball will not touch the line.
And yet it will be ruled a fair ball if called correctly.

The foul line forms a plane that reaches infinitely into the sky and if any part of the ball is touching the fair side of that plane, its a fair ball. Its why we have foul poles in baseball--to help us judge that infinite plane.

Surely you've seen a home run clip of the foul pole, yeah?
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Yes. Only one part of the baseball contacts earth first before compression and displacement come into play.

Let's say a field places a flag pole in foul territory, 1 inch away from the 1st base line. If a line drive skims off of the 3rd base side of the pole... Fair or foul? (A baseball is around 2.9" diameter)


Dude just stop. I literally lol'd at this response.
TexasRebel
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If only there was a drop off on the foul side of the line.
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This is fitting though. It's very interesting that y'all don't know the rules of baseball.
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Ah.

In that case contacting the foul pole means the ball first contacted fair territory beyond 1st or 3rd base.
Not at all what that means.

It means at least part of the ball was in fair territory when it broke the plane that is the outfield fence.
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urely you've seen a home run clip of the foul pole, yeah?


Yep. That pole is fair territory beyond 1st or 3rd base. Try again.
TexasRebel
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Yes. It is.
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urely you've seen a home run clip of the foul pole, yeah?


Yep. That pole is fair territory beyond 1st or 3rd base. Try again.
You finally got something right.

The foul pole is in fair territory.
TexasRebel
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It means at least part of the ball was in fair territory when it broke the plane that is the outfield fence.


This isn't football. A batted ball can "cross the 'plane'" of the outfield fence, and be blown back into play if it doesn't contact anything outside of the field.

Or caught for an out.
Or bobbled back in for a hit/error.
 
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