A lot of these articles are click bait, but I get the impression that ou and tu are trying to start a bidding war. They were both told no last time by the pac12, but if the sec even looks like they are interested then the pac12 might give them a better than necessary offer.
There egos have been there biggest enemy thus far. I wonder if they will learn.

As for tu to the sec, never say never. That alone will make them want it even more.

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Im not so sure that aTm would for sure arrange a block of Texas into the SEC. There are still a ****load of Aggies on TexAgs that beg to play those *******s, if enough money was brokered. Never say never.

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The Vagisil crew is not in charge...

Every article I have ever read has said our vote into the SEC was unanimous. Is there any credible story that says Vanderbilt abstained? I've never seen one.

the official announcements all say that the votes were unanimous for both A&M and Mizzou.

I was able to find some reports on Mizzou struggling to get the needed votes after A&M joined, but they were from Bleacher Report and I'm not linking that trash.

I had heard the Vandy abstention rumor before as well as Ole Miss needing to send visitors to Kyle Field to get an idea on the A&M culture fit, but I couldn't find any supporting articles, just rumors in comments.

Said it several times before and got bashed for it, and I'll say it again, Texas (eventually) to the B1G. Also said that the SEC will give a cursory look to size that deal up simply on due diligence principles alone. It would be the B1G's first foray into SEC country....you don't just turn your back and fart in their direction when a material development like that is on the verge of going down in your back yard.

And for the millionth time, none of the above happens until Bristol says it can happen. Unless ESPN can leverage the LHN poison pill into a favorable bargaining position when things go to the table, they will make everyone else stand around like a hot bottle of piss until the LHN deal expires (albeit their bargaining position starts dwindling in the last 5 years or so of the deal). This is why the LHN was put on the table in the first place, if it that isn't evident now it never will be. The sips took the bait and the hook is set in their throat for now.

The sips are never getting into the SEC. A&M, Ark and Mizzou are Solid Hell No Votes. SC, GA, FL and K are the Voting Block Against adding another member from an already SEC Rep. State. LSU, Bama and Auburn are probable No Votes. The sips are never getting in the SEC.

OU has a slim chance at getting in the SEC IF (and only if) the SEC is able to add only one of either VA Tech or NC State and needs a second team.

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I believe Loftin's opinions will be weighed more heavily because he is so well respected by the conference leadership.

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Bowtie doin work.

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Remember when people would look at Rice's stadium and wonder "gee why did they need such a large stadium?" You would explain that Rice used to be really good and drew huge crowds. They would look at you like you crazy.

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Their stadium looks like a real sh-thole compared to ours now.

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And once again, Texas is still the measuring stick for Aggie.

I just dont understand what these sips think they would add to the table revenue wise. The SECN deal is locked in for a while, and we already get a higher rate for all in state tv sets. What do they really think they add to this equation. Its not like the SEC is hurting for marquee games.

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Remember when people would look at Rice's stadium and wonder "gee why did they need such a large stadium?" You would explain that Rice used to be really good and drew huge crowds. They would look at you like you crazy.

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Their stadium looks like a real sh-thole compared to ours now.

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And once again, Texas is still the measuring stick for Aggie.

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That's like saying Haiti is a measuring stick for the U.S.

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I just dont understand what these sips think they would add to the table revenue wise. The SECN deal is locked in for a while, and we already get a higher rate for all in state tv sets. What do they really think they add to this equation. Its not like the SEC is hurting for marquee games.

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Critical thought is not exercised in Bellmont, very often.

Looking back, it is becoming obvious why Dodds had to structure the LHN the way he did. He had been cooking the books. They flat out didn't have the funds to buy out IMG. Then Dodds pissed away the money from the A&M game (another property of IMG) out of ego.

I dont know why everyone keeps thinking Ou is getting in the SEC. They dont have enough Tv sets in Oklahoma to drive the market. Some of those are even OSU fans. Why would you bring anyone into your business, give them a full partner share, not only diluting your cut, but not adding anymore value to your product line. Not only that, but they have no potential to add any value in the future. As a business man with any position of authority in any company I'm involved with, that would be shot down as fast as I could shoot it. If I have to answer to shareholders, (fans) I wouldnt touch the with a ten foot pole. It's just not good business.

Now, some areas on the east coast we might talk about. why, because the have a dense population. From a business standpoint that would make more sense with more value involved. I wouldnt throw OU any rope no matter how much they screamed save me.

ps: and tu is an after thought because of their beloved bevo channel. And its a channel not a network. SEC has a network with real content and real advertisers. And thats what most of those clowns cant figure out. You can always tell how valuable something is on tv by the amount of advertisers wanting to get in. Pete's carwash on Lamar, and Action Jacksons bail bonds aint gonna cut it. But they havent figured that out yet.

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I just dont understand what these sips think they would add to the table revenue wise. The SECN deal is locked in for a while, and we already get a higher rate for all in state tv sets. What do they really think they add to this equation. Its not like the SEC is hurting for marquee games.

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Critical thought is not exercised in Bellmont, very often.

Looking back, it is becoming obvious why Dodds had to structure the LHN the way he did. He had been cooking the books. They flat out didn't have the funds to buy out IMG. Then Dodds pissed away the money from the A&M game (another property of IMG) out of ego.

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They said they had more money than the Vatican. What gives?

I guess, much like the Vatican, they discovered it's hard to take a withdrawal against Michelangelo's Pietawhen you gotta pay the electric bill this month.

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Fare the* well, sweet sips.

Fare the* well.

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Or "Drown in the well"

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To start with, I have no interest in Texas joining the SEC. I've made that clear many times.

However, I'm curious about one thing. If there was credible economic benefit to the conference (and consequently A&M), would Aggies get past the emotion to make a clear decision?

What's the logic behind Florida (also Georgia and South Carolina) not wanting two teams from the state being in the conference?

I got the whole "...ifs and buts..." thing. I was just curious.

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It's hard to answer anything seriously here. But,

If it was economically beneficial and equitable, the emotion could be gotten over. But, odds are low on both of those points. The economics are not favorable for adding a team in the same region. Texas has consistently shown they do not believe the playing field should be level. They believe they drive the market and should be given more. I have been privy to various behind the scenes discussion and this has been a point of friction for at least the last 30 years.

Sharing a region with another team is mostly a recruiting issue.

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To start with, I have no interest in Texas joining the SEC. I've made that clear many times.

However, I'm curious about one thing. If there was credible economic benefit to the conference (and consequently A&M), would Aggies get past the emotion to make a clear decision?

What's the logic behind Florida (also Georgia and South Carolina) not wanting two teams from the state being in the conference?

I got the whole "...ifs and buts..." thing. I was just curious.

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It's hard to answer anything seriously here. But,

If it was economically beneficial and equitable, the emotion could be gotten over. But, odds are low on both of those points. The economics are not favorable for adding a team in the same region. Texas has consistently shown they do not believe the playing field should be level. They believe they drive the market and should be given more. I have been privy to various behind the scenes discussion and this has been a point of friction for at least the last 30 years.

Sharing a region with another team is mostly a recruiting issue.

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You must have missed it when we made a "clear decision" to go the SEC. Sticking with tu would have been an "emotional decision."

Point of fact is that tu has made nothing but "emotional decisions" throughout conference realignment. Dodds made "feel good" decisions that pandered to ego and braggadocio. Those decisions have not and will not work out well for them.

Although the state of Texas is very attractive to both the B1G and the PAC, the LHN negates that value to their conference networks. There is also the pesky problem of having to buy-into the BTN. Several years with a much reduced pay-out from the conference. The price of which will only increase over time, as the BTN is an asset that appreciates in value. That financial hit would be very problematical given the current money situation on the 40 acres.

Windows of opportunity are just that...windows. They open, and then they close.

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To start with, I have no interest in Texas joining the SEC. I've made that clear many times.

However, I'm curious about one thing. If there was credible economic benefit to the conference (and consequently A&M), would Aggies get past the emotion to make a clear decision?

What's the logic behind Florida (also Georgia and South Carolina) not wanting two teams from the state being in the conference?

I got the whole "...ifs and buts..." thing. I was just curious.

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It's hard to answer anything seriously here. But,

If it was economically beneficial and equitable, the emotion could be gotten over. But, odds are low on both of those points. The economics are not favorable for adding a team in the same region. Texas has consistently shown they do not believe the playing field should be level. They believe they drive the market and should be given more. I have been privy to various behind the scenes discussion and this has been a point of friction for at least the last 30 years.

Sharing a region with another team is mostly a recruiting issue.

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A&M made a clear and rational business decision when it joined the SEC. Because it was a far-reaching decision that affected so many tangible and intangible areas of the university, the entire A&M university system, and the state of Texas, A&M did analyses of almost every aspect. The pro's outnumbered and outweighed the con's by a substantial factor.

Regarding your question about Utex and the SEC, yes, we would make a clear rational decision on how we would vote. Economic benefit would be just one of the aspects involved in making the decision. There are many other tangible and intangible factors that would also enter into it.

poor sippie 33...not as obnoxious as 55, but gets his head banged in just as often and almost as violently...

Hell, yeah, Rocco.

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Im not so sure that aTm would for sure arrange a block of Texas into the SEC. There are still a ****load of Aggies on TexAgs that beg to play those *******s, if enough money was brokered. Never say never.

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I am one of those people that would like the game to be revived, but I am happy to say I wouldn't let them in...

I would like a renewal of the rivalry game, but it is too soon. 2020 might still be too soon.

Keep them the f*** out of the SEC.

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Im not so sure that aTm would for sure arrange a block of Texas into the SEC. There are still a ****load of Aggies on TexAgs that beg to play those *******s, if enough money was brokered. Never say never.

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So tell me, how much have we bargained for our new conference opponents? Who is paying this money?

You use a legit reason for ags wanting to play tu OOC, but go potato when you apply it to a conference scenario.