Clemson has filed against the ACC in Pickens County, South Carolina, a source confirms to ESPN. This is the second lawsuit that the ACC faces, as Florida State and the ACC currently have dueling lawsuits.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) March 19, 2024

Hope Syracuse, Boston College, Pittsburgh, etc. have secured their spot in the Big12.

No need for that.

Those schools will stick in the ACC.

Among other things, they are saying that the contract does not say what the media has been portraying to say. One thing is that the ACC does not own their meteorites if they leave the conference.

here are the legs they are standing on:

the only rights that Clemson transferred to the ACC were the rights to certain games played while Clemson was a member of the ACC and not to any other games, including, but not limited to, games played if and when Clemson is no longer an ACC member

the Withdrawal Penalty of Section 1.4.5. is unconscionable, unenforceable, and void as against public policy

neither Clemson nor any other ACC member owes any fiduciary duties to the ACC

BMX Bandit said:

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here are the legs they are standing on:

the only rights that Clemson transferred to the ACC were the rights to certain games played while Clemson was a member of the ACC and not to any other games, including, but not limited to, games played if and when Clemson is no longer an ACC member

the Withdrawal Penalty of Section 1.4.5. is unconscionable, unenforceable, and void as against public policy

neither Clemson nor any other ACC member owes any fiduciary duties to the ACC

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So the Grant of Rights was a fable concocted* by ACC members to get more money…

Clemson also pointed out they have never authorized the ACC to sue FSU, which seems reasonable given the two are in the same boat.

As an aside, the Greenville/Spartanburg/Asheville market was in the top ten in viewership amongst ESPN and ABC college football broadcasts all last year, so there may be some incentive to have/keep Clemson by ESPN/SEC (as opposed to potentially losing that market to B1G carriers)

TBD

Seems like it is just a matter of time (a few years at most) until Clemson, FSU, and a few others will be in the SEC.

JWinTX said:

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Clemson wants the Court to rule that:
(1) the ACC does not own the broadcasting rights to its games after it *leaves* the league
(2) it is not required to pay the exit fee
(3) it owes no other fiduciary duties to the conference pic.twitter.com/lS66uu10DW

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) March 19, 2024

Welcome to the sec

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No, they won't get into the SEC, as South Carolina is already there and there's a gentleman's agreement to not add another school in a state that already has a SEC team.

I mean, that's what I was always told...

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Always watch out for the team in Orange. They are sneaky.

I never thought that in all this realignment the B12 would come out ahead of ACC and PAC12

HowdyGetRowdy409 said:

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JWinTX said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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Clemson wants the Court to rule that:
(1) the ACC does not own the broadcasting rights to its games after it *leaves* the league
(2) it is not required to pay the exit fee
(3) it owes no other fiduciary duties to the conference pic.twitter.com/lS66uu10DW

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) March 19, 2024

Welcome to the sec

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No, they won't get into the SEC, as South Carolina is already there and there's a gentleman's agreement to not add another school in a state that already has a SEC team.

I mean, that's what I was always told...

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Always watch out for the team in Orange. They are sneaky.

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Besides the one in Texas just wait till the other oranges join like clemson, and okie state

Interesting but incorrect at times article about orange teams
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/orange-college-football-teams-are-having-a-moment/

No maroon mentioned when A&M won a national championship

el_guapo said:

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Panama Red said:

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Among other things, they are saying that the contract does not say what the media has been portraying to say. One thing is that the ACC does not own their meteorites if they leave the conference.

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What kind of country do we live in if we can't own our meteorites?

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The Arrow and the Song
BY HENRY WADSWORTH LONGFELLOW
I shot an arrow into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For, so swiftly it flew, the sight
Could not follow it in its flight.

I breathed a song into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For who has sight so keen and strong,
That it can follow the flight of song?

Long, long afterward, in an oak
I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end,
I found again in the heart of a friend

We know at least six ACC schools were in favor of filing a lawsuit against FSU without a full vote: Virginia, Virginia Tech, Syracuse, Duke, Wake Forest and BC.
That's according to a sworn affidavit by the UVA president.https://t.co/BEZ8OAOnhr

— Matt Baker (@MBakerTBTimes) March 19, 2024

el_guapo said:

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Panama Red said:

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Among other things, they are saying that the contract does not say what the media has been portraying to say. One thing is that the ACC does not own their meteorites if they leave the conference.

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What kind of country do we live in if we can't own our meteorites?

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The ACC contract is meaty. But the SEC rights are meteor

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Panama Red said:

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Among other things, they are saying that the contract does not say what the media has been portraying to say. One thing is that the ACC does not own their meteorites if they leave the conference.

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Good luck trying to divest those schools of their space junk if they abscond.

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Well done.

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What leg does Clemson and FSU have to stand on? They signed a contract, how is that not enforceable? I guess they are hoping for a settlement so they just don't have to pay as much for as long as the contract states

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They were drunk when they signed it.

UNC on deck

UNC BOT Chair 👀 pic.twitter.com/9EBLHoIE8E

— Fifth Quarter 🍢FSU 🍢 (@fifthquarterfsu) March 21, 2024

I use to think that as well.

JWinTX said:

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Welcome to the sec

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No, they won't get into the SEC, as South Carolina is already there and there's a gentleman's agreement to not add another school in a state that already has a SEC team.

I mean, that's what I was always told...

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Bring em into the SEC. Screw usce