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Why should the athletic department provide for general academics?
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Why should the athletic department provide for general academics?
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Why should the athletic department provide for general academics?
Because professors with double doctorates in Shakespearean literature and women's studies think they contribute more to society than football coaches and are resentful that they slave away for crap wages while football coaches get paid.
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Why should the athletic department provide for general academics?
Because professors with double doctorates in Shakespearean literature and women's studies think they contribute more to society than football coaches and are resentful that they slave away for crap wages while football coaches get paid.
You're as bad as the *****y professors.
p.s. The two profs quoted were the former dean of the business school and an economics professor.
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Why should the athletic department provide for general academics?
Because professors with double doctorates in Shakespearean literature and women's studies think they contribute more to society than football coaches and are resentful that they slave away for crap wages while football coaches get paid.
quote:Schools stealing money from athletic programs is really rare. At nearly all universities, athletic expenses exceed revenues (http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D1REVEXP2013.pdf). Though football tends to be a money-maker.
Can't alumni and Nike decide how their money is spent? Schools stealing money from athletic (and sometimes non athletic) programs is not an uncommon issue. Didn't Grambling Football get money for its mildew problem?
A friend of mine runs a sustainable farm at a small DFw school. She says the school has taken her programs' donations on multiple occasions.
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Why should the athletic department provide for general academics?
quote:quote:Schools stealing money from athletic programs is really rare. At nearly all universities, athletic expenses exceed revenues (http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D1REVEXP2013.pdf). Though football tends to be a money-maker.
Can't alumni and Nike decide how their money is spent? Schools stealing money from athletic (and sometimes non athletic) programs is not an uncommon issue. Didn't Grambling Football get money for its mildew problem?
A friend of mine runs a sustainable farm at a small DFw school. She says the school has taken her programs' donations on multiple occasions.
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"It would be really good if we were all in this together and the athletic department was trying to help the rest of the university,"Oregon economics professor Bill Harbaugh said.
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Why should the athletic department provide for general academics?
Because the athletic department is part of the university, not the other way around. I'm sure if the engineering department was making millions of dollars in profit every year that the university would want a cut of that too.
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"It would be really good if we were all in this together and the athletic department was trying to help the rest of the university,"Oregon economics professor Bill Harbaugh said.
How many people are aware of the university thanks to the money being pumped into football and the subsequent success of the Oregon program?
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Why should the athletic department provide for general academics?
Because the athletic department is part of the university, not the other way around. I'm sure if the engineering department was making millions of dollars in profit every year that the university would want a cut of that too.
Once the university funds the AD instead of making it run on its own budget, then they can take profits. Until then, they should keep out.
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If I donated a million dollars to the athletic program and then found it was being used for education I would be pissed. Especially if I was a former player.
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If I donated a million dollars to the athletic program and then found it was being used for education I would be pissed. Especially if I was a former player.
If the athletic department doesn't need all of your donation, you'd really be pissed off that it got diverted to better the academics of your university?
While it'd be fair to ask questions of why it got diverted, I don't know why you'd be so mad.
And you better be prepared to answer the much more common questions:
From students: "why do I have a MANDATORY athletics department fee?"
From academics: "Why do we subsidize the athletic depaetment every, single year?"
From donators to the univeristy: "why are my donations to the univeristy potentially being diverted to fund the athletic program?"
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If I donated a million dollars to the athletic program and then found it was being used for education I would be pissed. Especially if I was a former player.
If the athletic department doesn't need all of your donation, you'd really be pissed off that it got diverted to better the academics of your university?
While it'd be fair to ask questions of why it got diverted, I don't know why you'd be so mad.
And you better be prepared to answer the much more common questions:
From students: "why do I have a MANDATORY athletics department fee?"
From academics: "Why do we subsidize the athletic depaetment every, single year?"
From donators to the univeristy: "why are my donations to the univeristy potentially being diverted to fund the athletic program?"
Why would I as a donor, care about any of that? I gave my money to better the athletic department. It should be used for that purpose. And they may not "need" my donation to operate in the black, but it will absolutely Get used by them. Upgrades to facilities, equipment etc. happen all the time.
And same thing. If I donated money to a certain college in the university, and found out another department was stealing it, I would be pissed.
quote:Your anecdote offered to refute the linked article has absolutely nothing to do with trying to refute the linked article. I have no idea what your point is (other than your friend was convinced to change his mind about something)quote:quote:Schools stealing money from athletic programs is really rare. At nearly all universities, athletic expenses exceed revenues (http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D1REVEXP2013.pdf). Though football tends to be a money-maker.
Can't alumni and Nike decide how their money is spent? Schools stealing money from athletic (and sometimes non athletic) programs is not an uncommon issue. Didn't Grambling Football get money for its mildew problem?
A friend of mine runs a sustainable farm at a small DFw school. She says the school has taken her programs' donations on multiple occasions.
I don't think that is proof of how rare it takes place. A friend of mine is a booster for LSU, wanted to give money to football and was talked into donating to other sports instead. Not stealing, but you get the point.
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Who said anything about stealing money?
BTW, of the small minority of athletic programs that are self-sustaining, many give to the academic part of the academic side. The 12th Man Foundation does it.
quote:If the school takes money from the dept there is a real risk that the talent that generates that money goes to another school, then the money goes with them. College sports is a cut throat zero sum game. If Oregon starts diverting money from the AD they will probably find it hard to hang on to their best coaches and support staff, which will affect recruiting, which then means more losses on the field, which is a good way to watch the money slow down (see tu currently for what happens to your money flow when your football team isn't winning as much).quote:
Why should the athletic department provide for general academics?
Because the athletic department is part of the university, not the other way around. I'm sure if the engineering department was making millions of dollars in profit every year that the university would want a cut of that too.
quote:Knight donates a lot more to the academic side at Oregon than he does the athletic side. It doesn't seem like he's upset with the direction and leadership of the larger university and the academics.
When you live in a very liberal state and have lots of money, it can be difficult to keep that money since everyone else thinks they DESERVE it. Being located in Oregon definitely isn't helping the athletic department's situation. Look for Knight to suddenly get more involved with his political donations to candidates for state offices.
It's important to know who your daddy is, and Knight has the kind of money that can buy the politicians the put the University president in his position. So even though the AD might work for the president, that doesn't mean he doesn't indirectly control the entire situation.
quote:Good comparison for his question. Answer depends on the individual. Remember that a lot of fans never went to the school, so those fans are going to wear Bama shirts, not Rice shirts. Of those who actually had to get a degree from either Rice or Bama it would depend on the degree and what they planned to do with it and how much they wanted to pay for college and what kind of experience they wanted to have during their college years. For example, a teacher isn't going to be as concerned as a rocket scientist about where their degree comes from.
You mean like Alabama vs. Rice?
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where I'm going to get a decent education and a whole lot of fun.
quote:Is this an extension of the "football is the front porch of the university" garbage?
The amount of exposure your school gets has quite a bit of correlation to how much exposure the football team receives.
Both sides benefit from the other, however I'd argue that academia probably benefits more from athletics than the other way around. Think about a lot of schools in the SEC: Alabama, Aurburn, Ole Miss, etc.