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The follow up question is either:

1. How would you feel if your kid was terrible and people told him he was terrible?

or

2. If he's good, would you send him to play for this abortion of a program?

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Nope and nope.

Does a step son-in-law count? He was an O-lineman for a small school in Kansas.

But I have to say, I knew more about football than he did at the time.
He was on the team because he's a big guy and needed the financial help.

The reason I ask is because if you ever have (I had two that played Varsity sports) you have a much better understanding of what it is to attach to a team as a real fan/supporter. You do it through good or bad. When they win it is fantastic. When they lose you feel like crap....and this is big....because they feel like crap.

And you just weather it and hang with them when it is time for them...(remember it is them, not you)...to take the field or court again. That is what makes them your team.

There are no histrionics about "unacceptable play" or "embarrassment to the school". No pontificating about the acceptance of mediocrity on someone else's part. There is just the next game until there are no more games to play. And if the success doesn't come then it sucks for you because it sucks for them. That is what makes them your team as opposed to one of 105 others to choose from.

And if you aren't willing to do this when the reality is that this is truly the only part you have to play then what is it, exactly, that makes this your team?

I'm not saying that everyone should attend or watch every game. It's still a game after all and real life takes precedence. Nor am I saying that regardless of the results on the field everyone should be singing kum-ba-ya together and holding hands and expressing support for Dear Leader. And it is not realistic to think that Aggie fans should attach to A&M teams as completely as a parent attaches to his own kid's team.

Having said that....and this really isn't aimed at 90% of the board posters. I'm just asking the Abandoners....i.e. the chest-thumping "won't go, won't watch, won't do crap until I'm again pleased" crowd that litters these forums...what makes you different from T-Shirt fans? Because I really don't see much difference. Both come and go based on the program's level of success. It's just that the T-Shirt fan is reordering his clothing purchases while the self-proclaimed "real fan" is reordering his time blocks. Noisily. And with genuine anger.

Actually, T-Shirts fans are better because they leave without big, noisy dramatic turns before the big "exit".

(And the T-shirt fans actually do exit! Something the Abandoners always threaten, but never actually do.)

Quality outlook. Squadron 7

Seagrams or Challenger?

Seagram's.

I'm an "old".

Very Well, I'm a current challenger. What year were you?

Squadron 7, you are on the money. "I've seen 'em win, I've seen 'em lose, but I've never seen 'em quit" should apply to the 12th Man too. I'll admit I don't waste as much time on Texags after a loss, but I can't abandon this team.

My youngest son played HS football.

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I am a kid who plays JV basketball and football as a soph if that counts

I'm not that great though. I'm a 6'2" 3rd corner (I'm only in on 3-3-5 or more conservative plays) and a backup sf

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Alright we got 2 high schoolers now

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Who here has kids that have gone to culinary school or prepared food in a 4-5 star restaurant?

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Who here has kids that have gone to culinary school or prepared food in a 4-5 star restaurant?

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A real 5 star? Or a Ketch 5 star?

I don't have kids but I played varsity

What up

yes!
Think it is the "team" quitting that has everyone torqued!

Two sons, now adults who played multiple sports both school and club. Among their results are state championships and winless seasons. Dominance and doormats. No matter the result the underlying promise was as long as they tried, as long as they put out the effort and did not quit on the field, I was behind them. I paid the fees and drove the miles. They never quit and neither did my support.

I am really wondering if I can make the same statement about this team. It is not just on field performance. There are enough incidents on and off the field that make me question where the team I supported through the end of the Bellard era and the Wilson interregnum has gone. As a student I can remember the only bright spots being a Tony Franklin field goal, or a freakin forward pass on first down. But still I supported them. I was in the stands at the Bo Jackson Bowl cheering my head off when I thought we had finally turned a corner. Jackie and R.C. seemed to always have us on the cusp, always gave a little more meaning to "next year".

Now we are in the big business of college sports. Fran and Sherman were to bring us into the light of this more modern era. Neither succeeded. Sumlin and Johnny reignited the hope. But apparently this new system was only one player deep, and that player is gone. What remains is a team with leaders who have feet of clay and heads of pot and booze. Yes I am an old. I am not so naive that I believe that such things did not go on in "my day". But at least in that day there was enough common sense to keep it quiet. Hell one of my kid's team captain in college gave a first day of practice speech along the lines no booze or drugs during the season but party at my place afterwards. I know what kids do and I know what kids with proper supervision and mentoring can do.

So now the business of Texas A&M football Inc. is big money, big expectations, and big busts. If they want me to buy their product, produce something I want. When student athletes demand to be paid and get a cut of the pie, then they better not expect support when they crap the bed and don't seem to care.

finit amen.

I am an old Aggie and have seen lots of bad Aggie football teams. However, I have never seen one that just quits during the game before. All the bad teams played like hell while on the field. All the bad teams tried to win. I do not see a coaches change during the near future.

Oldest plays football and baseball and unfortunately his school programs are bad but he just finished the regular season with 100 tackles. Playoffs start next season. Yes I would love to see my kid play at A&M and he would love to do it.

I should hope I don't have kids, what with the never having been sexed up part.

yes

I only have 1 HS son (2 are younger) and he has played 2 varisty sports. Baseball and Football.

I keep thinking about this thread...
I raised 9 kids - 5 of my own, 2 adopted, 2 grandchildren... 6 girls, 3 boys.
To maintain "equilibrium" and "bonding" and proving interest in my kids activities whether varsity sports, scouts, band, etc., requires a LOT of time and effort and patience...
And, quite frankly, becomes a greater priority than whether or not I can attend (or afford) to support A&M - and I am a letterman.
Attending the kids activities, games, campouts, camps, etc., often produced conflicts even within our own household...
And Yes, I was in the military and traveled extensively and was gone - a lot...
Even after I retired from the military, travel - whether professional consulting, continuing education, etc., often conflicted with kids activities - and, as noted - were a priority over returning to A&M for some game or class reunion, etc...
To follow, every one of my kids wear Aggie gear to this day, have A&M stickers on their vehicles, and even if they attended college elsewhere support A&M through it all.
Yes, they were brainwashed from infants - and we DID attend as many activities as possible (especially when tickets in the horseshoe were $5 each...) - but, those days were often last minute decisions because of so many local family requirements that usually took priority.
The point is that we are not less interested in A&M's welfare as our family grew, but the activities of each family member often was a priority over and above A&M.

I once caught 2 TD passes and banged a cheerleader in the same night.

True story.

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I once caught 2 TD passes and banged a cheerleader in the same night.

True story.

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I keep thinking about this thread...
I raised 9 kids - 5 of my own, 2 adopted, 2 grandchildren... 6 girls, 3 boys.
To maintain "equilibrium" and "bonding" and proving interest in my kids activities whether varsity sports, scouts, band, etc., requires a LOT of time and effort and patience...
And, quite frankly, becomes a greater priority than whether or not I can attend (or afford) to support A&M - and I am a letterman.
Attending the kids activities, games, campouts, camps, etc., often produced conflicts even within our own household...
And Yes, I was in the military and traveled extensively and was gone - a lot...
Even after I retired from the military, travel - whether professional consulting, continuing education, etc., often conflicted with kids activities - and, as noted - were a priority over returning to A&M for some game or class reunion, etc...
To follow, every one of my kids wear Aggie gear to this day, have A&M stickers on their vehicles, and even if they attended college elsewhere support A&M through it all.
Yes, they were brainwashed from infants - and we DID attend as many activities as possible (especially when tickets in the horseshoe were $5 each...) - but, those days were often last minute decisions because of so many local family requirements that usually took priority.
The point is that we are not less interested in A&M's welfare as our family grew, but the activities of each family member often was a priority over and above A&M.

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Any time you have more kids playing organized sports than you have licensed drivers in the family you have a logistics problem!

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I once caught 2 TD passes and banged a cheerleader in the same night.

True story.

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Have you talked to him since?