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All I'm saying is that if you are going to insult a women in her profession by ridiculing her gender, then you shouldn't be surprised that the backlash is comprised of women who reject anything remotely feminine.


All I'm saying is of all the dramatictic ridicule in his post the only one you questioned was her sex. Seems pretty sexist.

Because critiquing her verbiage is a valid criticism.
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Gun people are so sensitive
AgLA06
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Gun people are so sensitive


That's because we look at all the"common sense" regulations being proposed and realize it's completely worthless feel good propaganda that infringes on our rights.

It's no different than reinstating prohibition to ensure no one drinks and drives. That won't happen because it doesn't makes sense. And the right to drink isn't in the Constitution.

2014 firearms murders 8,114.
2014 drunk driving fatalities 9,967
2014 drunk driving injuries 190,000

The car doesn't create drunk driving, the person does. Just like a gun doesn't magically kill someone, the person does.

If you actually want to have a positive impact on senseless deaths, do something about mental health and addiction while focusing on holding people accountable for their actions instead of blaming an inanimate object.
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Dentist a couple doors down from my shop was one of the ones shot.
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Dan Scott said:

Gun people are so sensitive
So are any of the "protected classes." This is something that means a lot to us.
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Dan Scott said:

Gun people are so sensitive


It's partially because people seem to have forgotten that governments kill millions when civilians don't have guns to shoot back. It's baffling that people support the government in their slow march to get rid of guns in civilian hands. That lack of foresight gets people worked up.
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It's because the naive believe that it won't happen this time.
MAS444
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I'm interested in the "slow march to get rid of guns in civilian hands." I honestly don't know the history/facts. What are the stats behind this? I'm assuming the number of guns in civilian hands has gone down over the last however many years (since the March started)? Should I be concerned that they're going to take my shotguns?
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MAS444 said:

I'm interested in the "slow march to get rid of guns in civilian hands." I honestly don't know the history/facts. What are the stats behind this? I'm assuming the number of guns in civilian hands has gone down over the last however many years (since the March started)? Should I be concerned that they're going to take my shotguns?
Overall numbers of guns out there is climbing, yes, but it's not just about the exact numbers of guns. We are constantly dealing with things that make it harder to buy, restrict what you can buy, etc. If you're talking about an O/U shotgun, you're probably not going to notice anything for a while. However, by the time they publicly decide that those are too dangerous (keep in mind, these politicians already will admit behind closed doors that they don't think any guns should be owned), you won't have anyone else to help back you up to keep those from being taken.
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Which politicians have said that behind closed doors? And I guess I'm just not that familiar with the constant increased restrictions as no one I know seems to have any trouble purchasing any kind of gun they want. But admittedly, I don't know much about it.
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If it means anything to you, do some research into it. Every democrat that mentions Australia or other similar countries is essentially saying they are for a near outright ban. Obama, Clinton, and a whole slew of others. Nothing new, crazy or anything, just that they politically don't out right say it but when they say "Well, look at Austrailia", or something similar, they are essentially saying that they would love an outright ban.
MAS444
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Thanks. I didn't even know Australia didn't allow any guns to be owned. Will read up on it.
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Australia banned all guns capable of shooting more than one round. So single shot guns only. UK has pretty much banned guns. Ridiculously hard to get one there. Canada banned handguns. So yeah, lots of places to look at to see where this could go.
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I'm assuming those are the countries referenced above where the government killings are now in the millions?
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MAS444 said:

I'm assuming those are the countries referenced above where the government killings are now in the millions?


When you admit you don't know anything about the current laws or the political agenda and then say something this asinine, you're either really dumb or bad at trolling. I'm not really sure one is better than the other in this instance.
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MAS444 said:

I'm assuming those are the countries referenced above where the government killings are now in the millions?


List of countries in modern history that disarmed their citizens before committing mass genocide.
Turkey
Guatemala
Uganda
Cambodia

Add in just about every socialist country along with those with dictators in South America and Africa if you can't ignore the pattern. Then again you're either as ignorant as admitted or truly trolling.
MAS444
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Oh. I thought the other guy was suggesting we'd end up like England or Australia with gun control. But you're saying it would be more like third world Africa or south america. That would definitely suck.

But im still wondering why the gun control = mass government killings hasn't happened yet in Australia or England. I guess your point is that we're more similarly situated with Cambodia and Uganda in this regard.
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MAS444 said:

Oh. I thought the other guy was suggesting we'd end up like England or Australia with gun control. But you're saying it would be more like third world Africa or south america. That would definitely suck.
Want to have kitchen knives banned? That's the next step after firearms in the English model. I personally like my freedoms but if you apparently don't mind.
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MAS444 said:

Oh. I thought the other guy was suggesting we'd end up like England or Australia with gun control. But you're saying it would be more like third world Africa or south america. That would definitely suck.

But im still wondering why the gun control = mass government killings hasn't happened yet in Australia or England. I guess your point is that we're more similarly situated with Cambodia and Uganda in this regard.


More like the Soviet Union or Turkey. Just a couple of the ones you conveniently ignored.
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I for one truly had no idea the concern regarding losing gun rights was that it could lead to mass genocide in the streets
MAS444
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By the government no less. It's been real eye opening to me too. And the kitchen knives thing hits really close to home. Really makes you think.
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MAS444 said:

By the government no less. It's been real eye opening to me too. And the kitchen knives thing hits really close to home. Really makes you think.
Gets back to, if you're not concerned about civil liberties... why even live in the US?
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MAS444,

I'm not claiming that Australia, the UK, Canada, etc have started mass executions in the street. I'm referencing the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Communist China, South American unrest, and Africa to a certain extent. Granted these examples are starting to show their age.

First world countries have actually figured out innovative ways to maintain soft tyranny that keeps people happy. Luckily that keeps these citizens from elevating insane people to power that then tend to order the killing of millions.

Unfortunately, many factors may be starting to converge that make people desperate and lead to the election or appointment of a psychopath to power in a disarmed country. Widespread automation, stagnant worldwide economic growth, consumer and government debt bubbles, unchecked immigration, etc. That could get ugly no matter how fancy and advanced we like to think of ourselves.
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Y'all need to dig into history before WW1. Humanity has experienced an extended era of peace and prosperity since WW2 that has never been seen before in history.

We, the middle class, are an entirely new thing. Sure there were craftsmen and guilds in the middle ages but they were still a huge minority. Back in the day we used to be known as peasant and slaves. The advent of gunpowder and inexpensive means to use it have somewhat leveled the playing field between the "strong" and the "weak" on many levels.
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MAS444 said:

Which politicians have said that behind closed doors? And I guess I'm just not that familiar with the constant increased restrictions as no one I know seems to have any trouble purchasing any kind of gun they want. But admittedly, I don't know much about it.
Just look at California proposed gun legislation for a great example. They want to restrict and monitor how much ammo you can buy. Chicago, the murder capital of the US, has some of the most restrictive and draconian gun laws - and they want to make more and more restrictions.

Washington DC is full of guns - mostly held by criminals and the private and government bodyguards that politicians get to have. Not so much for the actual taxpaying civilians though.

And last I checked - there is only one guaranteed right in the Constitution that requires a background check at the federal level and in many places, licensing and local restrictions that prevent a whole lot of people from being able to exercise the right. Imagine if we had such restrictions on something simple - let's throw voting out there for ****s and giggles. Apparently, having ID to vote is beyond discrimination and absolutely a thing of pure unadulterated evil, not to mention a hardship on the poor, the blacks, the mexicans, the illegals, etc. But requiring identification, registration, proof of a state and locally accepted secure place of storage, proof of the ability to lock a gun up during transportation to and from the gun range, licensing to purchase ammunition, registration and cost to get a license to purchase ammo or a firearm, fingerprinting, background checks and other associated forms of "public safety" items associated with firearms....is just "doing business as usual" and not any type of hardship. That doesn't even go into carrying restrictions or requirements in some areas, or who gets approved and who does not, for carrying in many other states.
 
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