quote:Democracy sucks, doesn't it?
and the NIMBYs win again.
Rezoning in the southwest corner of Graham and Longmire
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Last: 8 yr ago by PS3D
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The motion to rezone was voted down 5-1 last night.
Glad to see the council voting in line with public sentiment.
quote:Classic straw-man argument (and a terrible one at that) and extremely short-sighted.
This is an extremely uninformed and uneducated response. The properties being contemplated in South College station are true Class A products that will likely carry a price tag in excess of $100,000 per unit to construct. Go to San Antonio, Austin, Houston, Dallas or any major metropolitan area in the country. You will find areas where neighborhoods with $2,000,000+ homes are situated literally hundreds of feet from high end apartment developments. Many of those products have been in place for well over 20 years. They are still extremely nice and still demand rents in excess of $1.10 per square foot. Crime in those areas has not skyrocketed and property values have not been diminished. There isn't a single MF property in Southwood Valley that has ever been remotely close to a Class A product. This type of product is needed in this area for families in transition, active seniors, and young professionals.
The fear mongering here and the attitude that one should dictate what others do with their own property is downright poisonous. To assume that crime follows any type of multifamily development is ignorant at best.
Comparing affluent 'hoods next to crummy apartments in major cities to College Station? LOL. There's not enough wealth in College Station to support a neighborhood full of $2 million homes.
And please don't embarrass yourself by trying to bring up Miramont or Traditions.
quote:There is a time and place for a NIMBY approach, and in the case of this particular rezoning, I do not think the residents were wrong to state their case before the Council. They were pointing out that the original zoning and plan were in place, and the developer was requesting a change with which they didn't agree due to density and safety concerns. The Council heard both sides and voted to stick with the original. The original plan still calls for a mixed use development, but the density is not as great. Although, someone was stating in the Eagle about four storied buildings: was that really in the site plan? There are barely any four storied buildings south of Rock Prairie road save for the hospitals and other medical buildings/hotels and those are in office corridors for the most part.
and the NIMBYs win again.
Folks like to hold up the whole Walmart/Highway 6 issue as a typical NIMBY case, but the current Walmart building would probably be a junked out shell if they had not decided to renovate it and stay put after the final decision was made and it seems to have turned out okay.
Growth and change are not necessarily bad things and we often tout growth as good, but there is nothing particularly egregious in checks and balances to shape the growth to the benefit of all in the community and not just a select few.
Well said
quote:Yep.
and the NIMBYs win again.
And, just like the Wal Mart issue, it was a good win.
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What is your objection to the Longmire/Graham plat? It is an ideal spot for a complex or townhomes because they act as a buffer between the commercial uses to the north and east and the wholly single family development to the south and west. Why would anyone build single family homes up to that corner? I also don't think it is any further from highway 6 than the other location. Just curious. I mean, I can see why people object to the change from this pretty wooded area to (insert development here) but it is probably not economically feasible to put quality single family homes right there given the land values.
If folks really value their green space then elect folks that make that an unequivocable part of the zoning requirements with built in green belts that act as buffers between residential and commercial spaces and highways. However, that costs money...even if it adds to the long term quality of community.
If folks really value their green space then elect folks that make that an unequivocable part of the zoning requirements with built in green belts that act as buffers between residential and commercial spaces and highways. However, that costs money...even if it adds to the long term quality of community.
I think a major concern with all these rezoning plans is that developers are just deciding to change the zoning designation after prospective buyers are making informed decisions on real estate purchases surrounding property. When a resident decides on an area to live, they should be taking into consideration the adjoining zoning designation. The only thing they have to go on is the existing designation that the developer requested and was previously approved by the city. Why should the residents around the proposed development be forced to pay the costs (real and figurative) associated with a bad investment/development decision by the developer?
Thank you for your response. That is something I can understand from the point of the homebuyer.
this issue reminds me a LOT of buying a home in a nice family neighborhood, spending 10's of thousands on the house updating it, and then having 5 frat guys move in next door.... it should not happen.
Do they have the courage to vote down 2 in a row????
RafterAg223, despite getting posts removed for being impolite, isn't entirely incorrect...there are M/F apartments in nice areas that do stay nice and are kept well, often getting demolished only because it's more valuable to build something taller and nicer. Unfortunately, more often than not, apartments can and will go downhill and destroy a neighborhood, especially if they're concentrated. Gulfton, Greenspoint, and Sharpstown are all examples of that, and even in College Station, there's not a lot of apartments that have been well-maintained since the 1970s. Briarwood is another example, as it too was a nicer place back in the day.
