Dr Peter McCullough - Complete Interview 5/19/2021

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Picadillo
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Texas A&M Medical School; proud he is one of us and speaks the truth...

https://www.bitchute.com/video/vM0Yr1uCQoL0/

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Pretty frustrating. Much of what he states was stated on these very boards, and still continues to be argued against today.
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It's pretty surprising to see a doctor of his stature say what he did in the last 15 minutes. Not saying he's wrong, as I've always felt there was something fishy about how hard the vaccine has been pushed. Just that it's surprising and frankly worrying to see someone at that level actually say it.
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Incredible interview, thank you for sharing.
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Excellent video. Well worth it to watch the entire thing. It is unbelievable what has happened in this last year. God bless those doctors who have actively treated COVID patients and given them hope. It is mind boggling that the message this past year has been about the suppression of treatments and preparing the public for mass vaccination. As a nurse, it will never sit right with me that we sent sick people home from the ER without medicine and told them to come back when they are worse.
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01ag, there is a large group practice in Texas that still hands out their Covid fact sheet that says, "there is no known treatment" . No known treatment... early or later. They provide no early treatment and tell you to go home until you get really sick. They are pushing the vaccines like there's no tomorrow. Shameful in my view.
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Unacceptable. We should all do better.
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He got very emotional around 55 minutes when he talked about his father.

I would love to hear from the doctors on this board what they think about this interview.
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He appears to be associated with AAPS (American Association of Physicians and Surgeons); or at least his name is on several published papers from AAPS.

The association with AAPS should be enough of a reason to question anything he has to say.

I couldn't get much past his self-proclamation of being well-grounded in epidemiology due to "seeing and examining more drug safety trial data than any doctor in current American medicine". Didn't realize stats were kept on that.
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AggieHusker said:

He appears to be associated with AAPS (American Association of Physicians and Surgeons); or at least his name is on several published papers from AAPS.

The association with AAPS should be enough of a reason to question anything he has to say.

I couldn't get much past his self-proclamation of being well-grounded in epidemiology due to "seeing and examining more drug safety trial data than any doctor in current American medicine". Didn't realize stats were kept on that.


I'm not familiar with AAPS. Is your issue that they appear to be a conservative association?

Which part of what he said do you believe is wrong? Or, is your intent just to attack the messenger because you don't like the message?
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AggieHusker said:

He appears to be associated with AAPS (American Association of Physicians and Surgeons); or at least his name is on several published papers from AAPS.

The association with AAPS should be enough of a reason to question anything he has to say.

I couldn't get much past his self-proclamation of being well-grounded in epidemiology due to "seeing and examining more drug safety trial data than any doctor in current American medicine". Didn't realize stats were kept on that.


It's well worth it to watch the entire video.
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AggieHusker said:

He appears to be associated with AAPS (American Association of Physicians and Surgeons); or at least his name is on several published papers from AAPS.

The association with AAPS should be enough of a reason to question anything he has to say.

I couldn't get much past his self-proclamation of being well-grounded in epidemiology due to "seeing and examining more drug safety trial data than any doctor in current American medicine". Didn't realize stats were kept on that.
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Agree this is a great video
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HowdyTexasAggies said:

AggieHusker said:

He appears to be associated with AAPS (American Association of Physicians and Surgeons); or at least his name is on several published papers from AAPS.

The association with AAPS should be enough of a reason to question anything he has to say.

I couldn't get much past his self-proclamation of being well-grounded in epidemiology due to "seeing and examining more drug safety trial data than any doctor in current American medicine". Didn't realize stats were kept on that.


I'm not familiar with AAPS. Is your issue that they appear to be a conservative association?

Which part of what he said do you believe is wrong? Or, is your intent just to attack the messenger because you don't like the message?


I think your first sentence hit the nail on the head.

If the above statement isn't enough to provoke a response, you'll probably never get one.
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AggieHusker said:

He appears to be associated with AAPS (American Association of Physicians and Surgeons); or at least his name is on several published papers from AAPS.

The association with AAPS should be enough of a reason to question anything he has to say.

I couldn't get much past his self-proclamation of being well-grounded in epidemiology due to "seeing and examining more drug safety trial data than any doctor in current American medicine". Didn't realize stats were kept on that.
Wow, just wow. I have an immediate family member that has spent years in an elevated position as a physician on staff at Baylor Dallas. The doctor you just ran down is highly respected by his peers as one of the very best at what he does. You clearly do not like him because it doesn't fit your political narrative. To question the man's grasp on the subject at hand is just pure ignorance.
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Thanks for posting this...finally had a chance to watch the entire interview. Parts of it have already been banned on YouTube, so it must contain factual information.
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RafterAg223 said:

AggieHusker said:

He appears to be associated with AAPS (American Association of Physicians and Surgeons); or at least his name is on several published papers from AAPS.

The association with AAPS should be enough of a reason to question anything he has to say.

I couldn't get much past his self-proclamation of being well-grounded in epidemiology due to "seeing and examining more drug safety trial data than any doctor in current American medicine". Didn't realize stats were kept on that.
Wow, just wow. I have an immediate family member that has spent years in an elevated position as a physician on staff at Baylor Dallas. The doctor you just ran down is highly respected by his peers as one of the very best at what he does. You clearly do not like him because it doesn't fit your political narrative. To question the man's grasp on the subject at hand is just pure ignorance.
The Doc has impressive credentials and is courageously speaking up. And yet an anonymous poster on a social media site takes aim at him? If that weren't so sad, it would be funny.

If anyone wants to challenge the message in the video, list your credentials and your name so we know whether or not to take you seriously. Otherwise, I'll just picture you as a troll sitting in your underwear in your mom's basement.

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The AAPS did show it ass multiple times as nakedly partisan and politically motivated and the fact that this guy belongs to that organization does give me pause. That being said, he knows a whole lot more about medical issues than i do so I defer to his expertise.

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Windy City Ag said:

The AAPS did show it ass multiple times as nakedly partisan and politically motivated and the fact that this guy belongs to that organization does give me pause. That being said, he knows a whole lot more about medical issues than i do so I defer to his expertise.




What did they do?

I tried to google news headlines from them but didn't have anything pop up.
Windy City Ag
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It is all on their website. Just go look though and it is pretty obvious. Whatever your politics, this is a politically motivated group.

https://aapsonline.org/about-aaps/

Opposes gun control and advocaes for 2a.

https://www.aapsonline.org/press/medsentgun2.htm

They went on a long running crusade against Hillary Clinton.

https://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/aapsvclinton.htm

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/hillary-has-abnormal-eye-movements-say-majority-of-doctors-surveyed-reports-aaps-300350768.html

It is basically a lobbying organization per its website.

https://aapsonline.org/category/dc_rounds/




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Can we talk about the claim that 4,000 people have died FROM the vaccine? That's an incredibly small percentage of the 100,000,000+ that have been vaccinated. I think we all agree Covid was falsely blamed for many deaths. Wouldn't the same premise apply to this relatively minuscule number of vaccine deaths?
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Sandman98 said:

Can we talk about the claim that 4,000 people have died FROM the vaccine? That's an incredibly small percentage of the 100,000,000+ that have been vaccinated. I think we all agree Covid was falsely blamed for many deaths. Wouldn't the same premise apply to this relatively minuscule number of vaccine deaths?
Isn't even one death too many?

Seems like that's the argument used by others when they wan to manipulate a discussion to their desired outcome.
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Windy City Ag said:

The AAPS did show it ass multiple times as nakedly partisan and politically motivated and the fact that this guy belongs to that organization does give me pause. That being said, he knows a whole lot more about medical issues than i do so I defer to his expertise.


Care to offer an organization in this climate that can't be accused of leaning one way or the other?

CDC?

NIH?

WHO?

COVID-19 has been politicized since the beginning.

Even researchers at universities such as Johns Hopkins, Oxford, Yale, and Stanford offered analysis contradicting the wishes of those pushing COVID-19 restrictions and had a difficult time getting air time.

The theory that globalists are using COVID-19 to exert world-wide control should be given more attention. I'd think the people which have been fooled by the COVID-19 lockdown arguments would be very eager for a public debate on what's happening and why.

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The US avgs 869.7 deaths/yr per 100,000 people. That is 2.38 deaths a day/ per 100,000.

The US has vaccinated fully 135,000,000 people. So it is expected of those 135,000,000 people 3,213 will die every day.

Without going into the older age groups of those getting vaccinated, which vaccine (# of injections), time of year that influences death rates in populations, or other confounding factors. It appears the numbers he quotes regarding death within 3 days of a covid vaccine injection is below the expected.
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Quote:

Care to offer an organization in this climate that can't be accused of leaning one way or the other?

CDC?

NIH?

WHO?

COVID-19 has been politicized since the beginning.

Even researchers at universities such as Johns Hopkins, Oxford, Yale, and Stanford offered analysis contradicting the wishes of those pushing COVID-19 restrictions and had a difficult time getting air time.

The theory that globalists are using COVID-19 to exert world-wide control should be given more attention. I'd think the people which have been fooled by the COVID-19 lockdown arguments would be very eager for a public debate on what's happening and why.
I won't chase you down the rabbit hole of paranoid conspiracy thinking. I will grant you that most NGOs probably have an agenda. All this being said, you have to allege political bias for those groups and then go digging for some smoking gun. In the case of the AAPS, they have signed their names to everything from fair critiques to lunatic ranting. Again, it is all on there website.

https://www.aapsonline.org/brochures/princip.htm

- Social Security is evil

https://www.aapsonline.org/alerts/autismalert.htm

- Vaccines lead to autism and heart disease

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/hiv-positive-is-the-treatment-worse-than-the-condition-asks-journal-of-american-physicians-and-surgeons-300047314.html

- There is no link between HIV and AIDS

https://aapsonline.org/oratory-or-hypnotic-induction/

- Barack Obama uses hypnosis techniques to force people to subconsciously vote for him, most particularly the Jews.

https://aapsonline.org/climate-change-alarm-supported-by-some-medical-journals-but-not-by-the-evidence/

- Climate Change is not real

https://aapsonline.org/states-seize-citizens-property-to-balance-their-budgets/

- The government should not be able to seize property

https://aapsonline.org/even-before-obamas-team-gets-started-the-bailout-package-tops-87-trillion-in-taxpayer-commitments-for-loans-guarantees-and-other-goodies-for-businesses-and-distressed-homeowners/

- The 2008 Economic Bailout was evil

https://aapsonline.org/a-tucson-arizona-physicians-commentary-there-is-more-to-the-story-of-the-tucson-shootings-2/

- The second amendment cannot be infringed upon . . .pro-2A

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nawlinsag said:

The US avgs 869.7 deaths/yr per 100,000 people. That is 2.38 deaths a day/ per 100,000.

The US has vaccinated fully 135,000,000 people. So it is expected of those 135,000,000 people 3,213 will die every day.

That is assuming that these are the same populations.

For example: I doubt that anyone in any end-stage disease or hospice care are getting vaccinated.

Are the reported "deaths due to the vaccine" all reported VAERS submissions? If so, then I wouldn't automatically assume these must be due to something else. Perhaps some, but I have heard anecdotally of two people in their 40s, in good health, who died unexpectedly of unexplained cause within 5 days of the vaccine.

I wonder what percentage of that "2.38 per day per 100,000" were healthy people dying of "unknown cause".
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Windy City Ag said:

Quote:

Care to offer an organization in this climate that can't be accused of leaning one way or the other?

CDC?

NIH?

WHO?

COVID-19 has been politicized since the beginning.

Even researchers at universities such as Johns Hopkins, Oxford, Yale, and Stanford offered analysis contradicting the wishes of those pushing COVID-19 restrictions and had a difficult time getting air time.

The theory that globalists are using COVID-19 to exert world-wide control should be given more attention. I'd think the people which have been fooled by the COVID-19 lockdown arguments would be very eager for a public debate on what's happening and why.
I won't chase you down the rabbit hole of paranoid conspiracy thinking. I will grant you that most NGOs probably have an agenda. All this being said, you have to allege political bias for those groups and then go digging for some smoking gun. In the case of the AAPS, they have signed their names to everything from fair critiques to lunatic ranting. Again, it is all on there website.

https://www.aapsonline.org/brochures/princip.htm

- Social Security is evil

https://www.aapsonline.org/alerts/autismalert.htm

- Vaccines lead to autism and heart disease

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/hiv-positive-is-the-treatment-worse-than-the-condition-asks-journal-of-american-physicians-and-surgeons-300047314.html

- There is no link between HIV and AIDS

https://aapsonline.org/oratory-or-hypnotic-induction/

- Barack Obama uses hypnosis techniques to force people to subconsciously vote for him, most particularly the Jews.

https://aapsonline.org/climate-change-alarm-supported-by-some-medical-journals-but-not-by-the-evidence/

- Climate Change is not real

https://aapsonline.org/states-seize-citizens-property-to-balance-their-budgets/

- The government should not be able to seize property

https://aapsonline.org/even-before-obamas-team-gets-started-the-bailout-package-tops-87-trillion-in-taxpayer-commitments-for-loans-guarantees-and-other-goodies-for-businesses-and-distressed-homeowners/

- The 2008 Economic Bailout was evil

https://aapsonline.org/a-tucson-arizona-physicians-commentary-there-is-more-to-the-story-of-the-tucson-shootings-2/

- The second amendment cannot be infringed upon . . .pro-2A




Your extremely negative choice of wording for all of the articles is no surprise. Why didn't you mention the dates of those articles?
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Rocky Rider said:

Sandman98 said:

Can we talk about the claim that 4,000 people have died FROM the vaccine? That's an incredibly small percentage of the 100,000,000+ that have been vaccinated. I think we all agree Covid was falsely blamed for many deaths. Wouldn't the same premise apply to this relatively minuscule number of vaccine deaths?
Isn't even one death too many?

Seems like that's the argument used by others when they wan to manipulate a discussion to their desired outcome.


Isn't one death too many was the argument made for lockdowns and masks. Seems like an argument made to manipulate a discussion to a desired outcome.
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Windy City Ag said:

The AAPS did show it ass multiple times as nakedly partisan and politically motivated and the fact that this guy belongs to that organization does give me pause.




As opposed to all the other medical organizations that said going out and protesting was ok while everyone else for any other reason should stay locked down?
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In the video, at 1:36:35 he claims "over 4,000 vaccine related deaths." He doesn't state his source (unless I missed it), but most likely is using VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) data as the source. I'm basing this assumption on a conference call I attended back in March with several AAPS affiliated doctors. In this call they used VAERS as the source for death numbers. There are 4,251 records in the VAERS data set flagged with "DIED=Y" tagged with a Covid vaccine when I downloaded the data today.

Per VAERS:
One of the main limitations of VAERS data is that it cannot determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse event. This limitation has caused confusion in the publicly available data from VAERS WONDER, specifically regarding the number of reported deaths. There have been instances where people have misinterpreted reports of deaths following vaccination as deaths caused by the vaccines; that is not accurate. VAERS accepts all reports of adverse health events following vaccinations without judging whether the vaccine caused the adverse health event. Some reports to VAERS represent true vaccine reactions and others are coincidental adverse health events and not related to vaccination. Overall, a causal relationship cannot be established using information from VAERS report alone.

So, unless this doctor has somehow managed to determine that the vaccine has caused all 4,000 deaths, it's disingenuous to claim 4,000 vaccine related deaths from using the VAERS data.

(Of note, back in 2003, another doctor associated with the AAPS incorrectly used VAERS data. The claim back then was that vaccines cause autism. You can read a web archive from the American Academy of Pediatrics that provides the details of how the data was incorrectly used. Seems the AAPS has not learned how to use VAERS in the past 18 years.)

However, let's give him the benefit of the doubt and assume 4,300 deaths really were from the covid vaccine. As of May 1, 146,000,000 people have received at least one dose of a covid vaccine (per Our World in Data / Google). That death rate would equal 0.002945%, or 29.45 out of every 1,000,000 people. That's way less than the estimated IFR for Covid. Or another way to look at it, there are an estimated 251,000,000 people in the US aged 18+ (per Wikipedia/2020 US Census). That would equate to 7,392 people that would die if everyone 18+ were to get vaccinated and all these deaths really were caused by the vaccine (assuming the same death percentage). Per Google/Wiki/NYT/Our World in Data, there have already been 594,000 deaths from Covid in the US.

You could base the death rate calculation on the fully vaccinated population instead (103,422,555 as of May 1), but even then you'd still only have 10,436 deaths from the vaccine if everyone were to be vaccinated. Plus I'm using VAERS reports through 5/21/2021 whereas I'm using the vaccination numbers from 5/1/2021, so this would overstate the death numbers calculated.
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As opposed to all the other medical organizations that said going out and protesting was ok while everyone else for any other reason should stay locked down?
That was dumb as well. A pox on all houses for supposed non-profit professional organizations that veer into social commentary.
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Why didn't you mention the dates of those articles?
Not sure of the relevance. The fact that the AAPS has been at it for decades is probably more of an indictment.

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Windy City Ag said:

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As opposed to all the other medical organizations that said going out and protesting was ok while everyone else for any other reason should stay locked down?
That was dumb as well. A pox on all houses for supposed non-profit professional organizations that veer into social commentary.


I'm more worried about tax payer funded government institutions playing politics than I am non-profit professional groups personally, but I do agree in principle.
Picadillo
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VAERS is a voluntary system so there will also be the unreported figures. So not a true barometer, but an indicator something is amiss. Used to be if over 50 deaths a vaccine was pulled off the market. No way of knowing then if the vaccine caused the death, but the product was still pulled.

I think the good doctor is pointing out this inconsistency.

Of perhaps more relevance is the number of VAERS reported serious injuries, which last time I looked was somewhere 14,000 to 20,000, more than prior 20 years all vaccines combined. And of these, the language is "most commonly reported" which means perhaps some are missed.
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