John Hopkins Research put together a tool to calculate your individual risk.

Tool

My Results: (34 years old with no pre-existing conditions)

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based on the information available from pandemic projections in your state of residence, the tool estimates an absolute rate of mortality of 0.8 (95% CI: 0.4 - 1.5 ) per 10,000,000 individuals in subgroups of the population with a similar risk profile to yours during the period of 05/15/2021 - 06/04/2021.

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Sounds scary. I would stay home just to be safe.

Well, all I can say is, this would have been pretty handy to have A FREAKING YEAR AGO when people were losing their minds over covid.

I too am at 1 in 10 million.

That's kind of what I assumed all along

I think 1 in 10 million might be as low as they go. You can't put an age under 18 in.

I am currently still alive, but that is just anecdotal.

.8 here too. I guess I'll still go out this weekend

harge57 said:

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John Hopkins Research put together a tool to calculate your individual risk.

Tool

My Results: (34 years old with no pre-existing conditions)

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based on the information available from pandemic projections in your state of residence, the tool estimates an absolute rate of mortality of 0.8 (95% CI: 0.4 - 1.5 ) per 10,000,000 individuals in subgroups of the population with a similar risk profile to yours during the period of 05/15/2021 - 06/04/2021.

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0.6 here, and im 39. You must be one of them fats to have such a higher risk.

FratboyLegend said:

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Well, all I can say is, this would have been pretty handy to have A FREAKING YEAR AGO when people were losing their minds over covid.

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Not sure if serious...you do realize it's taken all this time to collect enough data to build this model?

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Long COVID is real and is affecting millions of people's lives. Get immunized or not, just don't ***** afterwards if you're one of the up to 30% with enduring health issues.

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"Up to 30%" and "enduring" seem trivial. I'm not doubting that there are long term effects for some but what has the data proven at this point?

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Now that we know how to treat this virus, morbidity not mortality, is the major concern. Long COVID is real and is affecting millions of people's lives. Get immunized or not, just don't ***** afterwards if you're one of the up to 30% with enduring health issues.

But we also have many millions of people who are immune-compromised, for whom the vaccines do not work or don't work well, so will the rest of us not help as neighbors by getting vaccinated so they don't have to hide the rest of their lives?

Try thinking about someone besides yourself. BTW, the flu never killed 500K+ in a year here.

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No, next question.

The_Fox said:

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74OA said:

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Now that we know how to treat this virus, morbidity not mortality, is the major concern. Long COVID is real and is affecting millions of people's lives. Get immunized or not, just don't ***** afterwards if you're one of the up to 30% with enduring health issues.

But we also have many millions of people who are immune-compromised, for whom the vaccines do not work or don't work well, so will the rest of us not help as neighbors by getting vaccinated so they don't have to hide the rest of their lives?

Try thinking about someone besides yourself. BTW, the flu never killed 500K+ in a year here.

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No, next question.

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I have already had covid along with 20 to 30% of the population. Why would I get the vaccine?

harge57 said:

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The_Fox said:

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74OA said:

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Now that we know how to treat this virus, morbidity not mortality, is the major concern. Long COVID is real and is affecting millions of people's lives. Get immunized or not, just don't ***** afterwards if you're one of the up to 30% with enduring health issues.

But we also have many millions of people who are immune-compromised, for whom the vaccines do not work or don't work well, so will the rest of us not help as neighbors by getting vaccinated so they don't have to hide the rest of their lives?

Try thinking about someone besides yourself. BTW, the flu never killed 500K+ in a year here.

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No, next question.

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I have already had covid along with 20 to 30% of the population. Why would I get the vaccine?

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Me too. And you shouldn't.

harge57 said:

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The_Fox said:

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74OA said:

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Now that we know how to treat this virus, morbidity not mortality, is the major concern. Long COVID is real and is affecting millions of people's lives. Get immunized or not, just don't ***** afterwards if you're one of the up to 30% with enduring health issues.

But we also have many millions of people who are immune-compromised, for whom the vaccines do not work or don't work well, so will the rest of us not help as neighbors by getting vaccinated so they don't have to hide the rest of their lives?

Try thinking about someone besides yourself. BTW, the flu never killed 500K+ in a year here.

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No, next question.

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I have already had covid along with 20 to 30% of the population. Why would I get the vaccine?

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If your particular infection resulted in sufficient enduring antibodies, you don't need to.

The point is, you don't actually know.

74OA said:

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harge57 said:

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The_Fox said:

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74OA said:

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Now that we know how to treat this virus, morbidity not mortality, is the major concern. Long COVID is real and is affecting millions of people's lives. Get immunized or not, just don't ***** afterwards if you're one of the up to 30% with enduring health issues.

But we also have many millions of people who are immune-compromised, for whom the vaccines do not work or don't work well, so will the rest of us not help as neighbors by getting vaccinated so they don't have to hide the rest of their lives?

Try thinking about someone besides yourself. BTW, the flu never killed 500K+ in a year here.

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No, next question.

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I have already had covid along with 20 to 30% of the population. Why would I get the vaccine?

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If your particular infection resulted in sufficient enduring antibodies, you don't need to.

The point is, you don't actually know.

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There is no compelling evidence of large scale reinfection. 'we don't know for certain' isn't sufficient. Please post evidence of reinfection (not speculation that it can occur).

74OA said:

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harge57 said:

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The_Fox said:

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74OA said:

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Now that we know how to treat this virus, morbidity not mortality, is the major concern. Long COVID is real and is affecting millions of people's lives. Get immunized or not, just don't ***** afterwards if you're one of the up to 30% with enduring health issues.

But we also have many millions of people who are immune-compromised, for whom the vaccines do not work or don't work well, so will the rest of us not help as neighbors by getting vaccinated so they don't have to hide the rest of their lives?

Try thinking about someone besides yourself. BTW, the flu never killed 500K+ in a year here.

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No, next question.

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I have already had covid along with 20 to 30% of the population. Why would I get the vaccine?

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If your particular infection resulted in sufficient enduring antibodies, you don't need to.

The point is, you don't actually know.

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Tell you what. If I promise to not ***** if I become a long haul Covid person will you promise to stop trying to force your vaccine down my throat? Cause it seems like you're ok with me not taking it if I won't complain but then you follow up that I need to get it to protect others. So which one is it?

Seems to me that no matter what I do it will never be enough. First I need to stay home from work for 2 weeks. Then I need to mask up to leave the house. Then I need to cancel all vacations and holiday plans. Then I need to get a shot before going back to normal. Next I'll need a booster shot for the variants. Then just to be safe I'll need to get put in a database to show I'm #covidsafe.

For me it ended at "stay home from work for 2 weeks." Feel free to take your fear mongering elsewhere.

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74OA said:

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harge57 said:

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The_Fox said:

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74OA said:

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Now that we know how to treat this virus, morbidity not mortality, is the major concern. Long COVID is real and is affecting millions of people's lives. Get immunized or not, just don't ***** afterwards if you're one of the up to 30% with enduring health issues.

But we also have many millions of people who are immune-compromised, for whom the vaccines do not work or don't work well, so will the rest of us not help as neighbors by getting vaccinated so they don't have to hide the rest of their lives?

Try thinking about someone besides yourself. BTW, the flu never killed 500K+ in a year here.

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No, next question.

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I have already had covid along with 20 to 30% of the population. Why would I get the vaccine?

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If your particular infection resulted in sufficient enduring antibodies, you don't need to.

The point is, you don't actually know.

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There is no compelling evidence of large scale reinfection. 'we don't know for certain' isn't sufficient. Please post evidence of reinfection (not speculation that it can occur).

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He would rather try to scare people into getting vaccinated and make them feel like a bad person if they don't. The "party of science" has proven time and time again they only care about the science that fits their narrative.

Hincemm said:

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74OA said:

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Long COVID is real and is affecting millions of people's lives. Get immunized or not, just don't ***** afterwards if you're one of the up to 30% with enduring health issues.

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"Up to 30%" and "enduring" seem trivial. I'm not doubting that there are long term effects for some but what has the data proven at this point?

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Up to 30% is is baseless conjecture and intended to create fear. The number is likely neglible

based on the information available from pandemic projections in your state of residence, the tool estimates an absolute rate of mortality of 0.7 (95% CI: 0.4 - 1.2 ) per 1,000,000 .


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Oooh scary! I'm a chubby middle aged but no other conditions and in ok shape (base HR 55). Pretty nice tool from Johns Hopkins.

74OA said:

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Now that we know how to treat this virus, morbidity not mortality, is the major concern. Long COVID is real and is affecting millions of people's lives. Get immunized or not, just don't ***** afterwards if you're one of the up to 30% with enduring health issues.

But we also have many millions of people who are immune-compromised, for whom the vaccines do not work or don't work well, so will the rest of us not help as neighbors by getting vaccinated so they don't have to hide the rest of their lives?

Try thinking about someone besides yourself. BTW, the flu never killed 500K+ in a year here.

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So have we flattened the curve yet?

Flatten the curve
Myocarditis
Two more weeks
Surface Spread
Variants!
Wear a mask
Asymptomatic spread
Reinfection
Wear a double mask.... no triple!
Ivermectin people are crazy
Variants again!

Now its "Long COVID"

What's next when this is proven no big deal as well?

GIVE IT UP

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FratboyLegend said:

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Well, all I can say is, this would have been pretty handy to have A FREAKING YEAR AGO when people were losing their minds over covid.

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Not sure if serious...you do realize it's taken all this time to collect enough data to build this model?

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No it hasn't. We've had this data for a year.

In fact, if you look at the Diamond Princess, we had rough but actionable data in late Feb / early March of 2020.

I'm completely serious.