YouBet said:There have been examples of vaccines that later had negative impacts within the population once they were outside of controlled studies.ORAggieFan said:YouBet said:Ditto. I don't understand the objections here to this mindset. We don't know what the long-term effects are and we get contradictory information almost daily on the damn thing, so I'm simply going to give it time in the real world and see what happens.waitwhat? said:ORAggieFan said:Does it make you feel good about yourself to take to the internet and express how you don't believe in science?thenational said:
I'll pass, thanks.
You don't have to "not believe in science" to not be interested in getting the vaccine.
I won't be getting it unless circumstances change and I become at-risk of a severe case. I also believe the vaccine works and is probably safe. I'm glad that my mom and grandma got the vaccine because they're both at risk.
All that being said, I'll pass. Thanks.
The vaccine is probably fine, but I have no reason to get it.
Can you name any long term effects due to vaccines? How long are you going to give it time to assess? Have you taken this same approach with other vaccines?
There has been a lot of bad and changing information on Covid, but not the vaccine. That message has been it is safe and effective.
Going to wait at least a year.
No, but the last vaccine I got was my 10 year tetanus booster about five years ago or so(?). Known quantity.
This vaccine is not a known quantity and the delivery method is new. I'm also a low risk demographic, so I'm taking the reasonable approach to give it time in the real world. My brother is a 20 yr veteran of the pharma business and is following same protocol as me.
I suspect it's going to be fine and mRNA looks to be groundbreaking stuff but I'll let others figure that out before I need to.
PJYoung said:YouBet said:There have been examples of vaccines that later had negative impacts within the population once they were outside of controlled studies.ORAggieFan said:YouBet said:Ditto. I don't understand the objections here to this mindset. We don't know what the long-term effects are and we get contradictory information almost daily on the damn thing, so I'm simply going to give it time in the real world and see what happens.waitwhat? said:ORAggieFan said:Does it make you feel good about yourself to take to the internet and express how you don't believe in science?thenational said:
I'll pass, thanks.
You don't have to "not believe in science" to not be interested in getting the vaccine.
I won't be getting it unless circumstances change and I become at-risk of a severe case. I also believe the vaccine works and is probably safe. I'm glad that my mom and grandma got the vaccine because they're both at risk.
All that being said, I'll pass. Thanks.
The vaccine is probably fine, but I have no reason to get it.
Can you name any long term effects due to vaccines? How long are you going to give it time to assess? Have you taken this same approach with other vaccines?
There has been a lot of bad and changing information on Covid, but not the vaccine. That message has been it is safe and effective.
Going to wait at least a year.
No, but the last vaccine I got was my 10 year tetanus booster about five years ago or so(?). Known quantity.
This vaccine is not a known quantity and the delivery method is new. I'm also a low risk demographic, so I'm taking the reasonable approach to give it time in the real world. My brother is a 20 yr veteran of the pharma business and is following same protocol as me.
I suspect it's going to be fine and mRNA looks to be groundbreaking stuff but I'll let others figure that out before I need to.
It's been about a year since the first volunteers got the shot.
I got my 2nd shot in September.
Or do you mean a year since the majority of the country got it?
I get what you're saying, and I have the same mentality which is why I got vaccinated. I'm not scared of either the virus or the vaccine, but if getting the vaccine can potentially help prevent spread, it was a no brainer.CDub06 said:
The maddening thing about so many anti-vaxxers is that the mindset of "I personally have no reason to get it."
I am not concerned about getting COVID myself. I'm in great health. However, I got my vaccine specifically to avoid being a vector for others that are more susceptible. Whether or not I'm likely to have even moderate complications, I don't want to unknowingly transmit the virus or serve as a host for some kind of further mutation. Sure, it will protect the vulnerable individuals from hospitalization and death. But the more people we shots in, the less it will spread. That's the big idea.
If your complaint is about the free-rider problem that has been well understood for centuries, then I don't know what to tell you.CDub06 said:
The maddening thing about so many anti-vaxxers is that the mindset of "I personally have no reason to get it."
I am not concerned about getting COVID myself. I'm in great health. However, I got my vaccine specifically to avoid being a vector for others that are more susceptible. Whether or not I'm likely to have even moderate complications, I don't want to unknowingly transmit the virus or serve as a host for some kind of further mutation. Sure, it will protect the vulnerable individuals from hospitalization and death. But the more people we shots in, the less it will spread. That's the big idea.
CDub06 said:
I was just commenting based on the content of this thread. There's a lot of "I have no reason to get it because I'm healthy" going on here. But there's actually a bigger reason to get it than just protecting yourself.
Hopefully diagnosed and treated quickly. Can have pretty good outcomes and relatively quick recovery if that's the case.Motracicletraficificker said:
You know there are plenty of cases with long term side effects due to vaccines. I'm not saying to get a vaccine or not get a vaccine but you seem knowledgeable enough to know the answer to this question.
I'm not discounting people that have founded concerns or have had some traumatic experience with a vaccine. I'm speaking on the people I've talked to and the ones in this very thread that won't even consider it because they're "not old or fat." We need shots in arms, whether or not you're likely to have complications from COVID. Ideally, the more susceptible would've been first in line.Motracicletraficificker said:
You have never had side effects from a vaccine I assume or a close family member who has? How about not being able to walk from a flu vaccine. Myositis or worse. Happens every flu shot season. Quick to understand and slow to judge. Some folks who don't like vaccines may have actual reasons not to like them.
Motracicletraficificker said:
A local teen in Houston apparently got Gillian Barre Syndrome from the first dose just reported in the woodlands.
The main reason, at least with other vaccines, is that not everyone can receive. Those who are immunocompromised it is unsafe. The herd immunity by everyone else limits their risk.River Bass said:
The vaccine is readily available in my community to whoever wants it. Why would I need to get a vaccine to protect others? They can easily protect themselves by getting their own shot.
I've already had COVID with mild symptoms. I'd rather wait for the FDA to fully approve the vaccine before I get it.
Honest questions. I have a fairly open mind.
Unless you live in the Gaza Strip. Then you're ****ed.DadHammer said:
See for yourself.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
If you haven't recovered from covid, get the vaccine. It is proving to be very effective.