*****Official RPI and Seed Watch Thread*****

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A&M's top 3 series wins by RPI:

#4 t.u.
#9 Florida
#14 State

Bama's top 3 series wins:

#3 Auburn
#9 Florida
#15 Ole Miss

that's a wash
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Yes and no. They picked up 8 wins in those 3 series. We got 6 in ours.
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Luigi Vampa said:

W said:

would also add...

the Ags' resume compares favorably to Alabama's...especially with a win over Auburn tomorrow

the edge in conference record...18-11 vs. 18-13 (at the moment)...could be the difference

Bama did not play Georgia and lost their series to t.u.

Some on here were allegedly relaying from Brauny earlier in the week that Bama is a top 8 lock. I just dont get it...
Neither does Brauny. He's just repeating what he's being told.

The reality is when you're in the 7-10 range there's no such thing as a lock. You're at the mercy of your play as well as those ahead and behind you.

Bama does a far better job of gaming the RPI than we do. And they didn't fall on their face at home. You can much better afford a choke job on the road than you can at home.

We could do SUCH a better job of scheduling than we do.
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Sean98 said:

Luigi Vampa said:

W said:

would also add...

the Ags' resume compares favorably to Alabama's...especially with a win over Auburn tomorrow

the edge in conference record...18-11 vs. 18-13 (at the moment)...could be the difference

Bama did not play Georgia and lost their series to t.u.

Some on here were allegedly relaying from Brauny earlier in the week that Bama is a top 8 lock. I just dont get it...
Neither does Brauny. He's just repeating what he's being told.

The reality is when you're in the 7-10 range there's no such thing as a lock. You're at the mercy of your play as well as those ahead and behind you.

Bama does a far better job of gaming the RPI than we do. And they didn't fall on their face at home. You can much better afford a choke job on the road than you can at home.

We could do SUCH a better job of scheduling than we do.


It is what it is, but the Aggies are a cancelled Prairie View A&M game away from 9th in RPI before today's game instead of 12th.
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Sean98 said:

Yes and no. They picked up 8 wins in those 3 series. We got 6 in ours.

They played 9 games, we played 8. Getting closer to a wash again
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Sean98 said:

Luigi Vampa said:

W said:

would also add...

the Ags' resume compares favorably to Alabama's...especially with a win over Auburn tomorrow

the edge in conference record...18-11 vs. 18-13 (at the moment)...could be the difference

Bama did not play Georgia and lost their series to t.u.

Some on here were allegedly relaying from Brauny earlier in the week that Bama is a top 8 lock. I just dont get it...

Neither does Brauny. He's just repeating what he's being told.

The reality is when you're in the 7-10 range there's no such thing as a lock. You're at the mercy of your play as well as those ahead and behind you.

Bama does a far better job of gaming the RPI than we do. And they didn't fall on their face at home. You can much better afford a choke job on the road than you can at home.

We could do SUCH a better job of scheduling than we do.

Agree on improved scheduling

Bama - finished 18-13 vs SEC opponents, swept twice, 16-6 vs common opponents, RPI advantage, did not play UGA/A&M/Miss St
A&M - curr 18-11 vs SEC, higher overall and SEC win %, did not get swept, 11-10 vs common opponents

I saw all conference home losses. We did not fall on our face or choke. Geo was better in 2 losses, you got to find a way to take 2/3 from Auburn but lost the close game and had injuries, Miss St was a grind to get two wins (frustrating w RPI that we were 10 but drop to 12 after taking 2/3 vs MSU and before playing again). 3-7 in opening games is tough to overcome. We are a 7-10 seed and still have a body of work to be 7-8. Win today and seal it.
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Not a "cancelled". Should be "never scheduled".

We should schedule better but we need to play who we schedule.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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LB12MEEN said:

Not a "cancelled". Should be "never scheduled".

We should schedule better but we need to play who we schedule.

I agree. I think if you schedule someone that's a commitment that shouldn't be broken. Just don't schedule them or schedule enough quality non conference games to offset it. But once they are on the schedule you shouldn't cancel. That's poor sportsmanship.





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agsalaska said:

LB12MEEN said:

Not a "cancelled". Should be "never scheduled".

We should schedule better but we need to play who we schedule.

I agree. I think if you schedule someone that's a commitment that shouldn't be broken. Just don't schedule them or schedule enough quality non conference games to offset it. But once they are on the schedule you shouldn't cancel. That's poor sportsmanship.







Of course, we also had the bad luck of getting one of our better Tuesday RPI games rained out. Had we played and won that game, our RPI goes up too.
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Bama just left a pretty ugly last impression. How about we win today and make some of the concerns go away.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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True
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That was also a schedule mishap bc we scheduled it on Muster and it was not allowed to be played later when the weather was fine.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
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Just listening to the announcers on the tournament broadcast you'd think we are not deserving. They are pimping the hell outta Florida and Auburn. This bias makes me believe we need to reach the finals, if not win it all to be a 7 or 8 seed.
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Mr.Ackar07 said:

Sean98 said:

Luigi Vampa said:

W said:

would also add...

the Ags' resume compares favorably to Alabama's...especially with a win over Auburn tomorrow

the edge in conference record...18-11 vs. 18-13 (at the moment)...could be the difference

Bama did not play Georgia and lost their series to t.u.

Some on here were allegedly relaying from Brauny earlier in the week that Bama is a top 8 lock. I just dont get it...
Neither does Brauny. He's just repeating what he's being told.

The reality is when you're in the 7-10 range there's no such thing as a lock. You're at the mercy of your play as well as those ahead and behind you.

Bama does a far better job of gaming the RPI than we do. And they didn't fall on their face at home. You can much better afford a choke job on the road than you can at home.

We could do SUCH a better job of scheduling than we do.


It is what it is, but the Aggies are a cancelled Prairie View A&M game away from 9th in RPI before today's game instead of 12th.

Prairie View wasn't the problem just because they were end of year. That game has to happen annually.

Tennessee Tech and Oakland for SIX games. That's the problem. Those early series made zero sense, were only fun because they were Aggie baseball and have been an RPI anchor all year.
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They also were swept twice, and one of those vs a bubble UK team.

They won only one series vs a projected tournament team after 4/4.

Their computer metrics are doing a lot of heavy lifting. Which, they should to an extent. Each part of the season should be judged equally, I just thought that was interesting.
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CapCityAg89 said:

Mr.Ackar07 said:

Sean98 said:

Luigi Vampa said:

W said:

would also add...

the Ags' resume compares favorably to Alabama's...especially with a win over Auburn tomorrow

the edge in conference record...18-11 vs. 18-13 (at the moment)...could be the difference

Bama did not play Georgia and lost their series to t.u.

Some on here were allegedly relaying from Brauny earlier in the week that Bama is a top 8 lock. I just dont get it...
Neither does Brauny. He's just repeating what he's being told.

The reality is when you're in the 7-10 range there's no such thing as a lock. You're at the mercy of your play as well as those ahead and behind you.

Bama does a far better job of gaming the RPI than we do. And they didn't fall on their face at home. You can much better afford a choke job on the road than you can at home.

We could do SUCH a better job of scheduling than we do.


It is what it is, but the Aggies are a cancelled Prairie View A&M game away from 9th in RPI before today's game instead of 12th.

Prairie View wasn't the problem just because they were end of year. That game has to happen annually.

Tennessee Tech and Oakland for SIX games. That's the problem. Those early series made zero sense, were only fun because they were Aggie baseball and have been an RPI anchor all year.


Looking at our team sheet those are 6 of our 7 (PV) lowest RPI this season. Alabama has no RPI 200 + games and 8 quad 4 vs our 16. Bama played Rhode Island x3 and N Florida x3 but those were 155 and 160 RPI vs 249 and 295 on our two lowest RPI series.
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in the DSR we trust

A&M at #7

Bama at #14

this morning
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The ranking discrepancy between both of our cupcake early season series is impacting the SOS metric a lot.

This is also my gripe with the SOS metric for football. It should be tweaked to where once you reach a certain lower tier threshold, they should all be equally diminished. Like in football, you get dinged for playing #128 Sam Houston instead of #85 ULM. It makes absolutely no difference and both games will be over by halftime, but it makes a huge difference in the metrics.
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That would make a lot of sense. Probably too much sense.
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Brauny and Kendall have both indicated that the committee is likely to rely on DSR and KPI moreso than they ever have in the past, with RPI losing a bit of its luster. Certainly happened in softball this year, and it's welcome news as these two are just better metrics.

IMO you shouldn't be penalized for just playing a game that's on your schedule. Of course that wasn't the intent behind RPI but there is no question that is what ends up happening.

DSR says it's ok to play PVAM as long as you beat the brakes off them like you're supposed to. So DSR is less concerned about Strength of Schedule but does include a degree of Margin of Victory. DSR also has adjustments for midweek vs weekend series ...

I'm sure DSR will have it's deterrents and teams will figure out how to game it as well, but it's certainly a significant improvement over RPI in nearly every way.
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Leaving names out, a lot of "insiders" that are really good at talking like they know things with certainty yet in reality are just regurgitating things they've heard. None of it matters because they don't know near as much as they pretend to.

Just win the game in front of you.
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KP is still President and part owner of D1 / DSR, so KR is definitely extremely well-connected. And this bodes pretty well for the future of DSR.
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I wasn't trying to suggest we fell on our it face at home. My discussion was solely about Bama and their RPI. Because they did fall on their face on the road. But you can survive that vs a good RPI team. Home losses hurt so much worse.

There are easy ways to game the RPI. Road games versus Top 75 RPI teams are magical. USCw, UK, KState, UConn... These are the teams that do it well. Where SEC teams often trip up (*Vandy* this year) is that they rely on their conference schedule to build their RPI and they schedule a bunch of home cupcakes. That can still work if you have a season like Georgia did, but Vandy is screwed.

A weekday home and home with Baylor, TCU, UTSA, even Tarleton would be real helpful. We had what, one weekday away game this year? Even a second one would help. Or stop scheduling the UIW and Houston Christians of the world. Their RPI is never good. (Compared to say, Sam, Houston, etc that may have decent RPI potential many years).
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Gyles Marrett said:

Leaving names out, a lot of "insiders" that are really good at talking like they know things with certainty yet in reality are just regurgitating things they've heard. None of it matters because they don't know near as much as they pretend to.

Just win the game in front of you.

Isnt that what insiders do? They hear information others can't and then regurgitate them? That's the point of having good insider information.
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road records:

A&M ---> 10-6

Bama --> 11-11
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shifting gears...

can Arkansas grab the last host spot with a win today?

all metrics are good...except RPI -- currently at #23

but #16 in the DSR

whose host spot would they take? Kansas or Oregon State or Oregon
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W said:

shifting gears...

can Arkansas grab the last host spot with a win today?

all metrics are good...except RPI -- currently at #23

but #16 in the DSR

whose host spot would they take? Kansas or Oregon State or Oregon


Oregon State is done so I am going with them.
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W said:

shifting gears...

can Arkansas grab the last host spot with a win today?

all metrics are good...except RPI -- currently at #23

but #16 in the DSR

whose host spot would they take? Kansas or Oregon State or Oregon


The RPI thing is strange. They went 7-3 in SEC series and are tied for the 2nd most Q1 wins in the country. Losses to Stetson and UT-Arlington early in the season are really weighing the RPI down but everything else normally would lead to a hosting lock.
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The also have a win over Ok State. They did lose two to Stetson. Thats a problem. But the UTA game was a Friday night game against a pretty good pitcher who threw a gem. Still won the series so no shame in that.

Its the two losses to Stetson. They are 201 in the RPI.
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If they do sneak in, they'll get a loaded regional. Would likely get the Pokes and Missouri State, both. Then pair with UCLA in LA at the Supers. They'd probably be better off a 2 seed anywhere else. Would love to drill them in the semis if we both win this evening. I've missed burying them and hearing crickets at work.
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We're going to have to outlast Florida in the tourney or I'm convinced they pass us up.

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Pitt dinger, now up 2 on FSU B9. Go Panthers!

ACC Network. 3 more outs.
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Pitt closes it out. Costly loss for FSU -- a win and we're basically even. 2 wins and a UF loss would be amazing.

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so it appears Florida State is not a threat to the Ags

7-11 record vs. Q1 at the moment

19-16 vs. Q1 & Q2
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have to say...

comparing Florida's resume to the sips' resume...

the Gators' is equal or slightly better now

Florida may shoot up to the #5 or #6 seed with 1 more win
 
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