HeyAbbott said:

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Any SEC coach that gets swept by Missouri at home shouldn't be a SEC head baseball coach.

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. Here is the bad part of this. Early is the coach. It is his job to make decisions and get the players to perform. But let's not forget the players in this. Just as much of this is on their shoulders. Apparently these guys need a dictator that forces them to perform. Because under Early they have not. And we know they can. Hopefully they make a great run through the SEC tournament. Maybe the way Ole Miss did a few years ago.

Commander Gorn said:

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Say I get promoted to manager at a world class burger joint. In fact, they just got awarded #2 best burgers in the whole country the year prior. Many of the cooks came back this year and even some new highly regarded cooks joined the company. If anything, we should now be in the running for #1 burger this year! Then my restaurant loses to Taco Bell 3 times in a row in the local cook-off (also takes place in my restaurant's home town). Taco Bell has lost to every other restaurant in a 500 mile radius. What should happen to me?

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i think Early will be back next season
i think early will be better next year than this year
i think our talent won't be quite as good
if we keep early we wil have a similar season as this season

sec sports are the big leagues of sports there isn't time to learn on the job.

jmac13 said:

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Loser take,

How would the top programs in the sport handle this type of debacle?

LSU/Florida/Miss. Schools/Arkansas/Texas

Those are the programs we are chasing.

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Well 1 of those would hang a pineapple upside down on a headstone and wait for a hookup. Not sure about the others.

amychestnut said:

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MagnumLoad said:

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He has made some mistakes. Top of 9 in MO game 1 was not good. However, I believe we should give him another year. He was thrust into a difficult situation. We knew there were positives regarding roster, but had to know there would be a learning curve. Throw in losing Grahovac and Sorrell for half the year, not to mention Stewy, let us guve him a chance.

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I agree! The players love him and that is huge! don't forget we lost Sdao too. He deserves another chance; he deserves another year!

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That seems to be exactly what got us into this situation.

Regardless I don't think there is any way he is gone after this year. I think the prevailing opinion will be to give him another year. Not saying I agree or disagree, but strongly believe that is what will happen. How, as an athletic department, do you retain our women's basketball coach or soccer coach but fire the baseball coach?

Do whatever you need to do… just win games.


Are you saying you wouldn't take that guy back because of stuff he does in private?

I'll gladly take Omaha trips if it means the head man likes to live a strange lifestyle.

I wouldn't take that guy back based on other things, including player treatment.

That terrible player treatment sure has worked out at 3 different stops, I think people miss the point that sometimes the elite coaches aren't "Nice" people.

Have you seen any Saban Clips/stories

Bobby Knight

Urban Meyer

Bo Shembechler

Augie Garrido

Just to name a few, at this point in college athletics the only concern should be winning.

And the reason the players most likely loved Earley is bc he was the one that helped balance out their frustration dealing with a coach such as Schloss.

It's going to be hard for a so called players coach to win in the SEC. Also with NIL and the mentality of kids today, no one said it was easy.

Skip Johnson in his interview yesterday talked about the difficulties of coaching now a days with the so called "I" mentality of this generation. I have not heard Earley state anything like that this year. All I see is him playing politics on the team throughout the season. And then wonders why he cannot get them to do what they need to do.

Some of the best coaches their players did not respect them until afterwards and then they understood.

Earley will probably get another year. I'm ok with that if it happens.

I don't think anyone super accomplished will come to A&M right now. The only coach that I would like to see hired in the event of Earley being fired is Vitello, and that's most likely not happening.

I could see vitello coming after a year or two

1991sir said:

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I could see vitello coming after a year or two

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Ship sailed. He has an AD he likes. Unless Danny White leaves UT, this won't happen.

1991sir said:

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I could see vitello coming after a year or two

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Why?

This mentality does not work.

"Let's keep an obvious bad coach unless we can get a Nick Saban like hire."

LB12Diamond said:

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This mentality does not work.

"Let's keep an obvious bad coach unless we can get a Nick Saban like hire."

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That's not what I wrote at all.

nothingbutlove said:

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LB12Diamond said:

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This mentality does not work.

"Let's keep an obvious bad coach unless we can get a Nick Saban like hire."

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That's not what I wrote at all.

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Read what you wrote again.

You said you are OK with keeping Earley unless you get Tony.

amychestnut said:

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44mAG said:

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The fact that the team beat all the high level teams and got swept by some of the lowest tier teams points directly to poor culture and coaching.

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That take doesn't hold up. This team made it to the SEC Tournament and took down some of the top programs in the country, that's not something a team with "poor culture and coaching" does. People forget coach E hasn't even had the chance to fully recruit his own players yet. A few stayed, but after all the injuries and everything that happened post-CWS last year, he did the best he could with what he had and still kept them competitive.
Yeah, they got swept by a couple lower-tier teams, but that's baseball. Teams play down to their competition all the time, even elite programs lose games they shouldn't. The key is how you respond, and this group kept showing up and fighting.
They fought through the toughest conference in the country with a young roster, injuries, and a huge part of their fan base giving up on them at the start of the season. And more importantly, they fought for their coach. That says more about the culture than anything else.

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Every team makes it to the SEC tournament, even 3-27 Missouri.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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MagnumLoad said:

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He has made some mistakes. Top of 9 in MO game 1 was not good. However, I believe we should give him another year. He was thrust into a difficult situation. We knew there were positives regarding roster, but had to know there would be a learning curve. Throw in losing Grahovac and Sorrell for half the year, not to mention Stewy, let us guve him a chance.

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lol!
Perfect

deh40 said:

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amychestnut said:

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...This team made it to the SEC Tournament ...

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Every team makes it to the SEC tournament, even 3-27 Missouri.

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I can't believe I had to scroll down this far before someone pointed this out.

MagnumLoad said:

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He has made some mistakes. Top of 9 in MO game 1 was not good. However, I believe we should give him another year. He was thrust into a difficult situation. We knew there were positives regarding roster, but had to know there would be a learning curve. Throw in losing Grahovac and Sorrell for half the year, not to mention Stewy, let us guve him a chance.

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Agree on the adversities he faced. Every team faces something.
But can you name a SINGLE player on this team that improved from last year?

I don't think I have ever expressed an opinion on here about whether or not Earley should stay or go.

I'm only talking about moves on the board and my opinions if they should happen.

Different moves could make me change my mind. It's situational. (For e.g., if the powers that be retain Earley and give him a Jimbo-esque contract, I would probably not be ok with it.)

Communicating in writing can be difficult. My thoughts are a little subtle and not black and white when it comes to these kinds of things.

YellowPot_97 said:

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MagnumLoad said:

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He has made some mistakes. Top of 9 in MO game 1 was not good. However, I believe we should give him another year. He was thrust into a difficult situation. We knew there were positives regarding roster, but had to know there would be a learning curve. Throw in losing Grahovac and Sorrell for half the year, not to mention Stewy, let us guve him a chance.

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Agree on the adversities he faced. Every team faces something.
But can you name a SINGLE player on this team that improved from last year?

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Binderup.. his hitting was an improvement for sure... some of the pitching was little better...

Regardless, i feel Earley should stay,,, multiple different reasons... like most have said on here that are for him staying... his first year, the team had multiple key injuries, etc, etc... and baseball is baseball.. Yes.. a coach should coach and change or fix things... did Earley do a great job at that? Not entirely but he did fix some things along the way and made some improvements... But I've played enough baseball to know that a player has to also take what any coach, good or bad, says or teaches and apply it to the game.. So it is on the players too....

I feel Earley is a coach that the players will want to play for and that says something these days. Say if we get a different coach.. one that is possibly better but the players dont like playing for him... to me you are in the same situation in a season or two... you wont have anyone wanting to come and play for coach that is an A$$....

Has this year been disappointing ... certainly.... no question... but in my opinion you keep Earley, you keep players that can stay, maybe one or two that are on the bubble of going, and you also probably keep your recruiting class coming in that at the moment looks pretty good... Again... just expressing my thoughts on this..

1991sir said:

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I could see vitello coming after a year or two

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From what I have gleaned living here, Arkansas might be a legitimate threat down the road, but apparently A&M is not as attractive to him.

milner79 said:

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Commander Gorn said:

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Say I get promoted to manager at a world class burger joint. In fact, they just got awarded #2 best burgers in the whole country the year prior. Many of the cooks came back this year and even some new highly regarded cooks joined the company. If anything, we should now be in the running for #1 burger this year! Then my restaurant loses to Taco Bell 3 times in a row in the local cook-off (also takes place in my restaurant's home town). Taco Bell has lost to every other restaurant in a 500 mile radius. What should happen to me?

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The only returning contributers this year from last years lineup:

Jace
Kent (who contibuted huge but in a small sample size)
Sorrell (who missed half the year and is out again)
Schott (who is playing hurt again)

Lost:
Montgomery - .322 Avg and 27 HR
Grahovac to injury - .298 Avg 23 HR
Appel - .331 Avg and 10 HR
Burton - .284 Avg and 9 HR
Camarillo - .288 Avg and 7 HR - and one of the smoothest SS's I've ever seen come through A&M

Pitchers:

No Sdao
No Cortez
No Aschebeck

All of which are better than who we've replaced them with. The fake narrative of this years team failed with the same talent is absurd. Earley has made mistakes but we need to stop saying it's the same team.

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But can you name a SINGLE player on this team that improved from last year?

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Lamkin is the only one the comes to mind. Sorrel looks more developed/better but I think that was just natural vs any coaching that led to his improvement.

Yet Bindy is no longer in the batting lineup. A lineup that's not great at this time. So the one guy that showed improvement the coach is not even playing. Hey guys, watch out if you improve, does not matter.

This goes back to my politics comment. Schott is pretty much an out all season. Hits an easy play to second almost every at bat and cannot even run that well.

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The fake narrative of this years team failed with the same talent is absurd. Earley has made mistakes but we need to stop saying it's the same team.

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It's not the same team, but it was a better team on paper going into the season. Every single national pundit agreed.

We either whiffed on our transfers and/or they did not perform to expectations...tat's part of it. Schloss got more out of guys than Earley seems capable of.

Put another way...do you think Braden, Appel, Teddy & Ali would have had the same production under an Earley coached team last year as they did with Schloss?

We all know the answer.

Gyles Marrett said:

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The only returning contributers this year from last years lineup:

Jace
Kent (who contibuted huge but in a small sample size)
Sorrell (who missed half the year and is out again)
Schott (who is playing hurt again)

Lost:
Montgomery - .322 Avg and 27 HR
Grahovac to injury - .298 Avg 23 HR
Appel - .331 Avg and 10 HR
Burton - .284 Avg and 9 HR
Camarillo - .288 Avg and 7 HR - and one of the smoothest SS's I've ever seen come through A&M

Pitchers:

No Sdao
No Cortez
No Aschebeck

All of which are better than who we've replaced them with. The fake narrative of this years team failed with the same talent is absurd. Earley has made mistakes but we need to stop saying it's the same team.

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You got to be kidding me. Your post shows that coaching was horrible this year. Coaching did not get this years team to perform. As pointed by myself and many others we have played bad against bad/average teams. That's a horrible sign for a head coach.

Anyway, pretty sure he's gone if we don't make the postseason. So not really worth debating this one anymore.

Lady Aravis said:

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Gyles Marrett said:

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The only returning contributers this year from last years lineup:

Jace
Kent (who contibuted huge but in a small sample size)
Sorrell (who missed half the year and is out again)
Schott (who is playing hurt again)

Lost:
Montgomery - .322 Avg and 27 HR
Grahovac to injury - .298 Avg 23 HR
Appel - .331 Avg and 10 HR
Burton - .284 Avg and 9 HR
Camarillo - .288 Avg and 7 HR - and one of the smoothest SS's I've ever seen come through A&M

Pitchers:

No Sdao
No Cortez
No Aschebeck

All of which are better than who we've replaced them with. The fake narrative of this years team failed with the same talent is absurd. Earley has made mistakes but we need to stop saying it's the same team.

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Correct... being number one on paper is nice... but can and does mean nothing... Now.. if the team was exactly the same as last year, plus some good transfers and we had this same year... than yes 100% the coach would need to go for sure... but the team was not the same or close to it minus a handful of guys that some of which didnt even get to play this year from injuries..

What are your thought on the Missouri weekend?????

Justify keeping him from what took place that weekend.

LB12Diamond said:

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What are your thought on the Missouri weekend?????

Justify keeping him from what took place that weekend.

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Well, besides being a horrible weekend... just in my opinion... i tried to put myself in the game or thought of past games that i have been in that we played a team that going into it we knew that we for sure where going to beat them no problem... and honestly the game or two that crossed my mind, we had probably the hardest time winning.. one we lost... I feel that going into it the team had winning on their mind and looking to Georgia... feeling that Mizzou wasn't an issue ... until it was.

The friday game against Mizzou started out pretty good until the 8-9th inning... I think once the 6 or 7th started the guys put it on cruise control and stayed on it the rest of the weekend ... sometimes when you do that it is hard to get out of it... they were hunting for home runs instead of base hits... trying to hard, pressing... it just all fell apart... obviously... it doesn't help either that the first part of the season was like it was so it makes the Mizzou game worse...

So in saying that, a coach can coach, beg, plead, whatever it is for the guys to get out of the their head/funk... sometimes it works, sometimes not... I totally understand how folks feel that its on the coach.. and yes some of it is... but again, its on the players too...

magnolia tiger said:

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They wouldn't have hired a first time coach to start

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That happened because of the timing. The portal was closing and the only talent in it would be our roster. Freshman were reporting the next week and it would have been a rebuild.

Jace has said recently something to the effect of "we would run through a brick wall" for the coach. Schott said the team feels like they're failing each other. No blame for the coach. The Grahovacs like Earley. A former player's parent is on here with thoughts that are pro Earley.

I'm not arguing, but I am super curious about what drives this kind of loyalty toward Earley.

I wish I had more info.

"He was thrust into a difficult situation"

No he wasn't. He convinced A&M that he could effectively coach the Aggies. He couldn't.