If you look at the facts objectively, keeping Early is a tough sell

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houstonaggie76
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1. This roster is loaded with experienced MLB prospects
2. He didn't struggle, he's 10-18
3. The team had high-quality SEC road series wins against Arky, Tennessee, etc
4. The struggles against bad teams like Mizzou point to a lack of focus
5. We struggled with poor mid-week opponents
6. This is my opinion, but I hated many of the lineups, and hated the pinch hitters even more
7. The sips won the SEC, swept us, and are recruiting at an elite level according to rankings
8. We are missing the post-season

How do you overcome this?
texag101
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houstonaggie76 said:

1. This roster is loaded with experienced MLB prospects
2. He didn't struggle, he's 10-18
3. The team had high-quality SEC road series wins against Arky, Tennessee, etc
4. The struggles against bad teams like Mizzou point to a lack of focus
5. We struggled with poor mid-week opponents
6. This is my opinion, but I hated many of the lineups, and hated the pinch hitters even more
7. The sips won the SEC, swept us, and are recruiting at an elite level according to rankings
8. We are missing the post-season

How do you overcome this?

You don't overcome that. He needs to be fired. He had never been a head coach and it shows. We took a risk on him. I'm not saying we shouldn't have, but now we know we whiffed. Let's admit it and move on.
Wabs
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houstonaggie76 said:

1. This roster is loaded with experienced MLB prospects
2. He didn't struggle, he's 10-18
3. The team had high-quality SEC road series wins against Arky, Tennessee, etc
4. The struggles against bad teams like Mizzou point to a lack of focus
5. We struggled with poor mid-week opponents
6. This is my opinion, but I hated many of the lineups, and hated the pinch hitters even more
7. The sips won the SEC, swept us, and are recruiting at an elite level according to rankings
8. We are missing the post-season

How do you overcome this?

Short answer is you don't. Time to move on.
LB12Diamond
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No one wants to keep Earley. Even the ones in the denial phase this past week have finally moved to the acceptance phase.
tjack16
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houstonaggie76 said:

1. This roster is loaded with experienced MLB prospects
2. He didn't struggle, he's 10-18
3. The team had high-quality SEC road series wins against Arky, Tennessee, etc
4. The struggles against bad teams like Mizzou point to a lack of focus
5. We struggled with poor mid-week opponents
6. This is my opinion, but I hated many of the lineups, and hated the pinch hitters even more
7. The sips won the SEC, swept us, and are recruiting at an elite level according to rankings
8. We are missing the post-season

How do you overcome this?



I would also add that we are 51 games into the season and do not have defined roles for bullpen guys in any capacity. It's literally just drawing names out of a hat during the final few innings.
RoadkillBBQ
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Tough situation.
If it was up to me my list of replacements would be very, very short and consist of 2-3 names. If none of them were interested, I'd give him another year. You can't hire someone that has just done "ok" somewhere else, especially outside the SEC where the overall level of competition drops off dramatically and fire a coach after 1 year. It has to be a home run hire if you do that. No pun intended.
LB12Diamond
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I could make a lot longer list than the one in the OP. But I prefer not ruining my day.

Here's a much simpler question. What has Earley done that was a positive, showed coaching/development or that he has the slightest clue he knows how to be a SEC head coach?

Here's what I got.

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Dirty-8-thirty Ag
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The experiment didn't work. Time to cut him loose. Doesn't mean he is a bad guy, just means it didn't work out. When the big fish turned us down, hiring him at the time made sense to retain the roster, but nothing was done with the talent that we kept from leaving town.
Aggie_Jeff
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Dirty-8-thirty Ag said:

The experiment didn't work. Time to cut him loose. Doesn't mean he is a bad guy, just means it didn't work out. When the big fish turned us down, hiring him at the time made sense to retain the roster, but nothing was done with the talent that we kept from leaving town.
And they're probably leaving anyway.
AgDad121619
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tjack16 said:

houstonaggie76 said:

1. This roster is loaded with experienced MLB prospects
2. He didn't struggle, he's 10-18
3. The team had high-quality SEC road series wins against Arky, Tennessee, etc
4. The struggles against bad teams like Mizzou point to a lack of focus
5. We struggled with poor mid-week opponents
6. This is my opinion, but I hated many of the lineups, and hated the pinch hitters even more
7. The sips won the SEC, swept us, and are recruiting at an elite level according to rankings
8. We are missing the post-season

How do you overcome this?



I would also add that we are 51 games into the season and do not have defined roles for bullpen guys in any capacity. It's literally just drawing names out of a hat during the final few innings.


I think the entire team lacks a defined role. The active NCAA HR leader hits leadoff. Royo and Kiel at times have seemed like more likely candidates to leadoff and they're end of the lineup guys. They randomly decide to bunt in early innings when they haven't attempted one in weeks. They will steal 10 bases in a weekend then zero for a month. They don't work counts. They swing through every off speed pitch away that they see.

We aren't good offensively, defensively or on the mound. We probably have a top 5 most talented roster in CBB (#1 if Grahovac, Sdao, Kash, and Sorrell stayed healthy) and we are not good at anything except for striking out.

If and when we move on from Earley, I wont be disappointed if we don't get the big name because literally anything is better than this.


All I care about is paying whatever NIL it takes to not see Sorrell, Grahovac, Kiel, etc in burnt orange next year
Aston 91
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I don't want to keep him, but I can think of $3MM reasons we will. $77MM to get rid of a football coach should've taught us a lesson on fully guaranteed contracts (especially for a coach who was in no way qualified based strictly on resume) but it didn't.
LB12Diamond
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Posts like these are tiring. One 3 mil is nothing like 77 million.

Two, keeping Earley will hurt the budget a lot more than firing him bc money will not come in if he were retained like it will if they show they are trying to fix this mess.
Pichael Thompson
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Our AD is a bargain bin shopper...

Our expensive coach left & he found a bargain bin replacement


He locked in the bargain bin replacement for 4 years



We are stuck w earley for a while
LB12Diamond
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Pichael Thompson said:

Our AD is a bargain bin shopper...

Our expensive coach left & he found a bargain bin replacement


He locked in the bargain bin replacement for 4 years



We are stuck w earley for a while


Let's wager. How much you willing to put your money where your mouth is?
Pichael Thompson
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If earley is kept on you can't post in the baseball forum next season


If he gets canned I stay away from the baseball forum next season




Deal?
Reno Hightower
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None of us wants to see the 2nd most popular sport on this campus treated like WBB or soccer.
mncag
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houstonaggie76 said:

1. This roster is loaded with experienced MLB prospects
2. He didn't struggle, he's 10-18
3. The team had high-quality SEC road series wins against Arky, Tennessee, etc
4. The struggles against bad teams like Mizzou point to a lack of focus
5. We struggled with poor mid-week opponents
6. This is my opinion, but I hated many of the lineups, and hated the pinch hitters even more
7. The sips won the SEC, swept us, and are recruiting at an elite level according to rankings
8. We are missing the post-season

How do you overcome this?



You can't, I think he's gone. I think the back channels are being worked as we speak before any announcement is made
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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while i think early has proven he is over his head at this point in his career i don't think trev pulls the trigger. i think he gets one more year.

i wish this were not the case but i think this is what happens.
Fairview20
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Like another poster said, you will most likely be losing more money in lost ticket sales, donations, etc by keeping him rather than just simply paying the $3M buy out. All the momentum the program has made in the last 3+ years would be pretty much squandered.

You have to look at the big picture, not just be hyper focused on a singular variable.
aggie-1997
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

while i think early has proven he is over his head at this point in his career i don't think trev pulls the trigger. i think he gets one more year.

i wish this were not the case but i think this is what happens.
I agree with this. Unfortunately this is the outcome when you allow 18-22 year olds influence your hiring decision. Now we are stuck with a program in decline. We are having a terrible year and if Early is retained, we will likely see players leave, which leads to a longer term problem in that who will want to come knowing the situation. Get ready for a few years of mediocre Aggie baseball.
DL76
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I generally agree with 2-8, but not one player has demonstrated with any consistency they are pro prospects this year. All have seen their draft stock drop. Any under class man that gets drafted and opts to go will likely be disappointed.
Fairview20
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I don't think players leaving would impact a coach's decision in 2025. They can easily flip the roster in one offseason with the transfer portal.

This is a quick fix if the right coach is hired.
Jdb101808
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I posted this in another thread…. And I want to add.. I just looked up Vitellos first year record at Tennessee…12-18 in conference ….


Vitello even mentioned in his interview before we played them i believe that he himself was not a good coach the first year or two... I get that the season hasnt been what we all "wanted' or expected, but for some reason i still feel Earley is the right guy.... if anything he gets another season...

I know we will have some talent that is up and coming, and hopefully the guys will stay that we already have and the kids that have already committed because of Earley and the staff are pretty dang good... get rid of Earley and you may very well not have any of the commits, or current players stay and then player wise it would be a year or two at best to get back to a decent team..
HoustonAg2106
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When you get on the wrong bus you don't stay on until the end of the ride, you get off at the next stop.

He's not the guy, end the experiment now and go try to find the right guy.
Fairview20
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If you hire a good coach you will most likely have a good team next year. The team we just lost to, had a first year HC last year and were a national seed. The team that just won the SEC has a coach in his first year with the program.
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Jdb101808 said:

I posted this in another thread…. And I want to add.. I just looked up Vitellos first year record at Tennessee…12-18 in conference ….


Vitello even mentioned in his interview before we played them i believe that he himself was not a good coach the first year or two... I get that the season hasnt been what we all "wanted' or expected, but for some reason i still feel Earley is the right guy.... if anything he gets another season...

I know we will have some talent that is up and coming, and hopefully the guys will stay that we already have and the kids that have already committed because of Earley and the staff are pretty dang good... get rid of Earley and you may very well not have any of the commits, or current players stay and then player wise it would be a year or two at best to get back to a decent team..
Our team next year will probably be less talented than this year. If Earley couldn't win with this bunch, it's foolish to think next year will be better.
Too Chains
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Real question is when is Trev getting fired? 2/3 major revenue generating sports are going in the crapper. Football is TBD but I'm not optimistic there either. In the day and age where it finally makes sense we rise, we're falling back to middle of pack or less Big 12 selves.
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money would be the only reason the coaching staff is not fired
LB12Diamond
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That's not money.

$100 works for me.

I could care less if you continue making crappy posts or not.
LB12Diamond
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This is making decisions based on fear. Which is horrible reasoning.
Joes
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Too Chains said:

Real question is when is Trev getting fired? 2/3 major revenue generating sports are going in the crapper. Football is TBD but I'm not optimistic there either. In the day and age where it finally makes sense we rise, we're falling back to middle of pack or less Big 12 selves.
Don't you first have to be above that to fall back to it?
Agryan00
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There is more to coaching than filling out lineup cards and making pitching substitutions. I did not see alot of strategy from Earley. Examples is trying to drive pitch counts against a short staff in Texas. This way when you get to Sunday they have nobody left or even better to the end of the game the releivers are getting tired because there throwing 50 pitches not 25. You do this by taking alot of first pitches, likely strikes, and defending the plate in 2 strike counts, not by trying to hit HRs in 2 strike counts. If you want to take the free swing approach and ambush first pitch strikes you have to pick pitches and not miss when you get them, whether that be breaking balls or fastballs on the in inner half or outer half. Can also take the small ball approach like Kentucky, steal and put pressure on defenses. Watching or hitters I can't say I understood the approach besides hit the long ball. Which is not a high percentage strategy.

Also Earley has no feel for the game. He has no idea when to pull a pitcher and or leave one in, who to sub and when. He regularly forgets to make running substitutions. Also when to make a mound visit and when not too. He usually stands on that top step and does the golf clap like please get me out of this. Also he does not seem to understand how to work the umpires. When to get onto them, when ask them, and when to lobby for the next 50/50 call.

I like the guy but pretty sure he isn't the guy. Either that or we are in for a multi-year learning curve which I don't think many of us are ready for. I was never excited about the higher. Seemed like a cheap cover up by the AD for the Schloss screw up. Hoping Earley stays another year because I truly want to see how inept the Athletic Department is. Its not justTrev. He is a big part of it but its way more systemic than that which evidence by the number of garbage ADs we have had. Maybe its big money donors in the background pulling the strings. I don't know. Although big money tends to come with big egos and they always have their motivation for their guy. Generally guys who think they have all the answers because they were super successful in one area of their life.
Great2BeAnAGGIE
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He should have been gone after the second Mizz game but I have seen this over and over the last 50+ years.

Just my 2 cents:

Our athletic department makes decisions based off of big money donors who made their money on something other than running a sports program.

Until that cord is cut like Saban did at Alabama we will continue to have the same problems.
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LB12Diamond said:

Posts like these are tiring. One 3 mil is nothing like 77 million.

Two, keeping Earley will hurt the budget a lot more than firing him bc money will not come in if he were retained like it will if they show they are trying to fix this mess.
It may be tiring, but the finances will definitely come into play. Baseball is popular, but it is not net positive when it comes to revenue. Nothing in Trev Albert's actions so far lead me to believe he's willing to pay $3MM to fire a first year coach that he hired in a net negative revenue sport. I hope I'm wrong (and no, I'm not going to bet you anything).
https://www.kbtx.com/2025/02/01/texas-am-athletics-made-227-million-net-revenue-during-fiscal-year-2024/
Football was the only profitable program for the Aggies, gaining $118.5 million in revenue and spending $90.8 million for a net value of $27.7 million. Those numbers include the $27.2 million in severance payments the athletic department made to former head coach Jimbo Fisher and his staff during the fiscal year.
Fisher's buyout totals more than $76 million. Of that, $19.2 million was paid within the first 60 days of his termination. A&M will pay $7.2 million annually through 2031.
Baseball lost a net $3.6 million, followed closely by softball at $3.3 million. Men's basketball operated with a net loss of $2.1 million. Women's basketball had the highest deficit of any program, recording net losses of $6.2 million.
LB12Diamond
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Again my main point you are totally missing.

You do realize NIL money is required in this day and age. We are not going to get that with Earley. It would be like buying stock that you know is bad. Just throwing your money away. And of course these numbers are not posted but my guess is this years roster is being paid a lot more than the buyout you are stating is going to drive things.

Also fund raising for the Blue Ball renovations. Donors need to see positive change. Have some hope. Keeping a coach that has clearly shown they are not even an average SEC head coach will limit this.

There are two sports at A&M where they will not waste time bc of a buyout if it's clear the coach needs replaced. Baseball happens to be one of those sports.
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