Schloss embarrassed by bdf stance on 3rd paid assistant
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Last: 4 yr ago by Mr.Ackar07
He is correct it is embarrassing.
the BDF won't come out and admit...they don't want to spend the money or they don't have the money
According to tu's AD on sports radio last week, he claimed that the reason he personally didn't agree to the paid third assistant, was because apparently they tried to lump softball in it as well? He stated that Baseball has 10 or more players on each roster than softball (Pitchers I guess). So he said numbers wise, it makes sense for baseball, but not for softball, so they said let's rethink this. If that is all true, it kind of makes sense, but I have no idea if his statements are valid.
He doesnt like that the SEC added it to the proposal. He just needed an excuse to vote no. I dont think he would have voted yes if it was just baseball.
He should have relocated to Dudy Noble when he had the chance. Glad to see he's suffering that non-move now
44mAG said:
According to tu's AD on sports radio last week, he claimed that the reason he personally didn't agree to the paid third assistant, was because apparently they tried to lump softball in it as well? He stated that Baseball has 10 or more players on each roster than softball (Pitchers I guess). So he said numbers wise, it makes sense for baseball, but not for softball, so they said let's rethink this. If that is all true, it kind of makes sense, but I have no idea if his statements are valid.
Even if that's true, good luck getting it past Title IX.
So how many coaches are there?
The league is run by the horns and sooners. They probably didn't even poll the rest of the league's ADs or coaches.
I was wondering what his thoughts were about this subject? We missed on the big name coaches but somehow Cohen got Lemonis and so far he has exceeded my expectations. Cohen recruited against him when he was at UK and Lemonis was at Louisville. Sort of helps that Lemonis' parents are State grads and Lemonis was born in Starkvilletechnoviking said:
He should have relocated to Dudy Noble when he had the chance. Glad to see he's suffering that non-move now
It is amazing that even the small conferences are expected to vote yes.
3 coaches, one is an unpaid volunteer.L8HIT said:
So how many coaches are there?
The original SEC proposal was just for baseball, but the feedback they got from other leagues was to add softball to the proposal for Title IX reasons. So, it's a catch 22; include softball, the the Big XII will use that as a pretext to vote against it, saying softball is in less need of a 3rd paid assistant than baseball; omit softball, and the issue will probably fail because of Title IX concerns.44mAG said:
According to tu's AD on sports radio last week, he claimed that the reason he personally didn't agree to the paid third assistant, was because apparently they tried to lump softball in it as well? He stated that Baseball has 10 or more players on each roster than softball (Pitchers I guess). So he said numbers wise, it makes sense for baseball, but not for softball, so they said let's rethink this. If that is all true, it kind of makes sense, but I have no idea if his statements are valid.
Frankly, I don't believe that Del Conte and his crowd are being honest--they don't want to spend the money, but, they also don't want to be put at a disadvantage, so they want to keep the SEC and like minded schools from adding a 3rd paid assistant, even if they don't have to.
twk said:The original SEC proposal was just for baseball, but the feedback they got from other leagues was to add softball to the proposal for Title IX reasons. So, it's a catch 22; include softball, the the Big XII will use that as a pretext to vote against it, saying softball is in less need of a 3rd paid assistant than baseball; omit softball, and the issue will probably fail because of Title IX concerns.44mAG said:
According to tu's AD on sports radio last week, he claimed that the reason he personally didn't agree to the paid third assistant, was because apparently they tried to lump softball in it as well? He stated that Baseball has 10 or more players on each roster than softball (Pitchers I guess). So he said numbers wise, it makes sense for baseball, but not for softball, so they said let's rethink this. If that is all true, it kind of makes sense, but I have no idea if his statements are valid.
Frankly, I don't believe that Del Conte and his crowd are being honest--they don't want to spend the money, but, they also don't want to be put at a disadvantage, so they want to keep the SEC and like minded schools from adding a 3rd paid assistant, even if they don't have to.
speaking of Schloss and embarrassing...let's review TCU's non-conference scheduling this year:
weekend series vs.:
#127 Grand Canyon
#213 Seton Hall
#222 Long Beach
#275 Eastern Michigan
playing in the Shriner's vs.: #12 / #41 / #140 and the California tournament vs.: #3 / #79 / #112...could not offset the dreadful weekend series.
and that adds up to a non-conference SoS of #175
weekend series vs.:
#127 Grand Canyon
#213 Seton Hall
#222 Long Beach
#275 Eastern Michigan
playing in the Shriner's vs.: #12 / #41 / #140 and the California tournament vs.: #3 / #79 / #112...could not offset the dreadful weekend series.
and that adds up to a non-conference SoS of #175
Didn't the Horns get caught funneling money to a volunteer baseball coach through a business a few years ago? Maybe theirs is getting paid already so why let the other conference teams have a level playing field.
CoachLB said:
Didn't the Horns get caught funneling money to a volunteer baseball coach through a business a few years ago? Maybe theirs is getting paid already so why let the other conference teams have a level playing field.
I assume all programs have ways to provide income on the side to the volunteer coach.
That was how they got rid of Gus. His son was violating the rules on outside income. Under Augie, if I recall correctly, it was a little more complicated--they got an exemption that allowed volunteer coach Trip Couch to go out on the road because Augie, allegedly, was physically unable to do so, and then I believe that Couch was getting paid beyond what the rules allowed.CoachLB said:
Didn't the Horns get caught funneling money to a volunteer baseball coach through a business a few years ago? Maybe theirs is getting paid already so why let the other conference teams have a level playing field.
Schloss should get used to it. That's what he signed up for.
Camps and clinics are where most volunteers get reimbursed for their efforts. Also they get all the perks of meals travel etc that come with the job. Now I am not saying that it is worth it short term but long term you may catch on as an assistant everntially
Schloss was at TCU before it became a member of the BDF, but he certainly has suitors interested in him so he could have left if he had wanted.Que Te Gusta Mas said:
Schloss should get used to it. That's what he signed up for.
jkag89 said:Schloss was at TCU before it became a member of the BDF, but he certainly has suitors interested in him so he could have left if he had wanted.Que Te Gusta Mas said:
Schloss should get used to it. That's what he signed up for.
Cue dumpster GIF.... really needed to complete this thread.
I can usually see the angle, but here am left speculating. Someone who knows more let me know if this is close? Speculation:
NO
B1G- doesn't care about baseball, don't want to have to spend more $$$ to maintain mediocrity
sips- can outspend everyone on the HC, don't want anything that levels the BDF playing field
thieves- same as sips to a lesser degree
tbat- current HC is rolling, does not want to change the status quo
wv- historically bad at baseball, don't want to spend the $$$
YES
SEC, ACC, CUSA, Southland- Willing to spend for the advantage over cheaper conferences
kstate- don't have softball, don't have to pay a softball coach
tcu- same
ku- have to recruit far off, would help level playing field (historically suck, don't know why they care)
baylor- high cost of tuition makes recruiting difficult, would help level playing field
NO
B1G- doesn't care about baseball, don't want to have to spend more $$$ to maintain mediocrity
sips- can outspend everyone on the HC, don't want anything that levels the BDF playing field
thieves- same as sips to a lesser degree
tbat- current HC is rolling, does not want to change the status quo
wv- historically bad at baseball, don't want to spend the $$$
YES
SEC, ACC, CUSA, Southland- Willing to spend for the advantage over cheaper conferences
kstate- don't have softball, don't have to pay a softball coach
tcu- same
ku- have to recruit far off, would help level playing field (historically suck, don't know why they care)
baylor- high cost of tuition makes recruiting difficult, would help level playing field
Augie wanted to stay in Austin and drink wine and chase tail, so he was allowed to pay somebody else to do his recruiting. Augie's back was so bad that he could only complete 36 holes some days.
Seriously, can somebody who knows answer my question?
Why does KU want to spend more money on coaches? Won't they would probably suck either way?
Why does TBAT not want a 3rd assistant?
-located in decent recruiting territory
-low admissions standards and relatively inexpensive tuition make recruiting easier
-HC will eventually leave for more $$$
-Long term, not likely to compete with tu, but should continue as decent regional program
Do they honestly think they can keep their HC for another 10 years?
Are they just not willing to pay the political price of angering the sips?
Why does KU want to spend more money on coaches? Won't they would probably suck either way?
Why does TBAT not want a 3rd assistant?
-located in decent recruiting territory
-low admissions standards and relatively inexpensive tuition make recruiting easier
-HC will eventually leave for more $$$
-Long term, not likely to compete with tu, but should continue as decent regional program
Do they honestly think they can keep their HC for another 10 years?
Are they just not willing to pay the political price of angering the sips?
How much money are we talking about? How much does an assistant Baseball/Softball coach make? $50k? probably less.
Augies 3rd asst was being paid 30k as a part time 'employee' for one of the beer distributors I will not name.
supposedly this was officially voted down today by the ncaa.
I feel bad for those unpaid assistants and their families.
I feel bad for those unpaid assistants and their families.
Sad day. Any word on when this would be able to come up for a vote again?
rugger74 said:
Augies 3rd asst was being paid 30k as a part time 'employee' for one of the beer distributors I will not name.
What's wrong with that? They all make money on the side. Like, every single one of them at every school in the USA.
Sandman98 said:rugger74 said:
Augies 3rd asst was being paid 30k as a part time 'employee' for one of the beer distributors I will not name.
What's wrong with that? They all make money on the side. Like, every single one of them at every school in the USA.
He didn't actually do any work, that's what was wrong.
Sandman98, see twk response for your answer. I should have put that info in my post.
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