He cant dribble or shoot. Has no idea where to go on offense. The players are too skilled today. I dont care how good his defense is he has no skill. He is a net liability but yet Buzz keeps throwing him out there. Andy is not much better.

Seems like a lifetime ago when he was the spark that propelled us over Georgia here after we completely **** the bed in the first half yet it is was only 15 days ago and it's been downhill for that guy ever since.

He's hit some mid range jumpers this year that actually look like he's in control and form isn't horrible (or as horrible as his 3 point shooting form).

He elevates and takes a balanced squared up shot decently from 6-10 feet out, at least I've seen it.

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Part of me thinks we should scrap our entire offensive and defensive game plan and just go all in on pressing like an old school Arkansas team.

Teams are doing a better job ant figuring out our defense and our offense is just unbelievably bad. Maybe we can create some turnovers and get some easy buckets.

Probably too late in the season to go too crazy but our defensive breakdowns have been too consistent the last few games.

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Am I the only one that thinks the offense has actually been fine the last two games outside of the actual shot making part?

Like I legitimately thought our quality of shot was really good against Tennessee considering how elite they are defensively. Even tonight the offense wasn't that infuriating to me. I've been more mad with the defense

What is our offensive game plan? Bad ball movement, half hearted screens and poor shooting seem to be the plan.

bobinator said:

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Part of me thinks we should scrap our entire offensive and defensive game plan and just go all in on pressing like an old school Arkansas team.

Teams are doing a better job ant figuring out our defense and our offense is just unbelievably bad. Maybe we can create some turnovers and get some easy buckets.

Probably too late in the season to go too crazy but our defensive breakdowns have been too consistent the last few games.

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We don't have a coach capable of that. If we did, we would have done something different already.

Buzz's idea if adjusting the offense is running the offense through..

Garcia.

I mean, we don't get points for quality of shot. We have to find a way to get the ball into the basket. At this point, our shot selection could be world class and it wouldn't matter because our ability to shoot is at a second grade level.

IMO, defense is the only thing that keeps us close.

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I mean, we don't get points for quality of shot. We have to find a way to get the ball into the basket. At this point, our shot selection could be world class and it wouldn't matter because our ability to shoot is at a second grade level.

IMO, defense is the only thing that keeps us close.

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I mean I get that. At some point though, at this level, you have to hit a shot. A lot of these guys in the last 3 games have shot worse than what is already their below average norm

Our offense looked a lot better 6-7 games ago when we were starting Hef and letting him play with Wade and Zhu. He gives spacing and a little scoring punch. I hate bring him off the bench. It's often with manny at point guard and it looks awful

We need to go back to Wade, Phelps, Hef, solo, and Payne to start. I said it weeks ago. Then bring in Andy and Coleman off the bench and let them create havoc on the glass

Yeah it's tough being a bad shooting team who's gone ice cold. I still think Buzz does these weird lineups and stuff on purpose.

Aggie Crew I do agree with this post. He is not playing the right combinations His best defensive players are his worst offensive players. This has been his dilemma all year.

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Aggie Crew I do agree with this post. He is not playing the right combinations His best defensive players are his worst offensive players. This has been his dilemma all year.

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He needs balance. He had that earlier in conference.

Playing Hef with the bench group is wasting his strengths. He doesn't dribble well and putting him with Manny is a disaster. What he does do well is move well off ball (he's probably our best at this not named Wade) and shoots the ball at a decent clip. He was consistently giving us 6-14 points when he was starting even in just 20 min. Solo playing the 4 gives us lots of defensive versatility and allows him to play to his strengths. He not asked to do as much offensively other than crash the glass

Bringing Jace, Andy, and Coleman off the bench was allowing us to blitz the other teams backups with physicality on the glass. Even if it was a Manny shot all of them were crashing and it was working to keep us afloat while the starters rested

I just don't get why we got away from what was working. Hef had a minor injury so I understand that but he's gone way too far the other way

Of course, at the end of the day, none of this matters if Phelps keeps playing like he has. Everyone points to Wade but it's truly been Phelps who has wrecked us. He's giving us nothing right now offensively and that puts way too much pressure on Wade to be awesome. Wade had 21 and 6 yesterday and there are people that think he wasn't very good

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Method Man said:

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You have a guy with an NBa body and all he needs is to go to eighth grade basketball camp and learn how to play basketball. He hasn't developed one iota since being at A&M. It's a shame.

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Players under Buzz actually developing throughout their career here seems to be the exception.. not the rule.

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Buzz doesn't develop players. He develops men. That's great for a youth ministry or ag leadership degree.

You don't get points for thank you notes or books read.

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What is our offensive game plan? Bad ball movement, half hearted screens and poor shooting seem to be the plan.

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Have one player go hero ball so the other four can rest to play harder defense.

Iso O is a result of having no one that can shoot, and results in no one getter better at it either.

Having said that it has worked really really well from late last year up until 9 days ago. So……you don't ****can your strategy based on 1 week

Phelps style of play is conducive to get worn down . I think we are seeing that

Yes solo needs to be able to score some. Hefner as well. didn't even take a shot yesterday I believe. Too unstructured and guard-dependent on offense. The play hard and muck it up strategy is getting grating.

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jja79 said:

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What is our offensive game plan? Bad ball movement, half hearted screens and poor shooting seem to be the plan.

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Have one player go hero ball so the other four can rest to play harder defense.

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It kills me that people actually believe this to be true

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Phelps style of play is conducive to get worn down . I think we are seeing that

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May be true. Regardless he has to be better than what we are seeing. We've struggled lately not because of Wade but because the other two guard are giving us practically nothing

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FTAG 2000 said:

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What is our offensive game plan? Bad ball movement, half hearted screens and poor shooting seem to be the plan.

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Have one player go hero ball so the other four can rest to play harder defense.

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It kills me that people actually believe this to be true

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Can you explain what the offense is then?

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AggieCrew44 said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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jja79 said:

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What is our offensive game plan? Bad ball movement, half hearted screens and poor shooting seem to be the plan.

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Have one player go hero ball so the other four can rest to play harder defense.

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It kills me that people actually believe this to be true

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Can you explain what the offense is then?

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Lots of high pick and rolls and let Wade/Phelps attack downhill with bigs working off of that. We looked great early when they were trapping Wade and we were running Phelps and Andy towards the rim

Our offense outside of the actual making the shot part has actually been fine the last two games. We created good looks. We can't have Manny, Phelps, Andy, and Solo combine for 2/23 from the field and expect to win, even with a lot of those shots good looks

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AggieCrew44 said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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jja79 said:

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What is our offensive game plan? Bad ball movement, half hearted screens and poor shooting seem to be the plan.

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Have one player go hero ball so the other four can rest to play harder defense.

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It kills me that people actually believe this to be true

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Can you explain what the offense is then?

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I'm going to steal a good LouisvilleAg post as the reply:

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Because we don't have any offensive game plan or a coach that has the ability to generate offense or create high efficiency looks from our half court sets

His offense is literally to miss shots and get a bunch of offensive boards. It's why we have a bunch of low % shooters taking all kinds of bad looks bc our HC won't tell them to stop and force offense through playmakers and putting guys in higher % spots

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LouisvilleAg said:

Guess that is a simplified version.

The point of the iso offense is to get everyone on one side of the floor and back up the defender. This causes rotation. So from there, the person with the ball can shoot and we have a very good chance of rebounding because of the rotation or kick out for a three or a secondary pass.

This is our offense. We don't have several shooters that we can play a normal offense with penetration causing the rotation.

Our offensive gameplan is very good. It is not elite

In the last two games, the weak spot has been the defense. MSU, specifically Hubbard, was able to drive at will. Tonight, Ziegler did the same. We couldn't stop him. He caused so much rotation.

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Complete Idiot said:

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czar_iv said:

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AggieCrew44 said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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jja79 said:

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What is our offensive game plan? Bad ball movement, half hearted screens and poor shooting seem to be the plan.

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Have one player go hero ball so the other four can rest to play harder defense.

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It kills me that people actually believe this to be true

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Can you explain what the offense is then?

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I'm going to steal a good LouisvilleAg post as the reply:

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Because we don't have any offensive game plan or a coach that has the ability to generate offense or create high efficiency looks from our half court sets

His offense is literally to miss shots and get a bunch of offensive boards. It's why we have a bunch of low % shooters taking all kinds of bad looks bc our HC won't tell them to stop and force offense through playmakers and putting guys in higher % spots

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LouisvilleAg said:

Guess that is a simplified version.

The point of the iso offense is to get everyone on one side of the floor and back up the defender. This causes rotation. So from there, the person with the ball can shoot and we have a very good chance of rebounding because of the rotation or kick out for a three or a secondary pass.

This is our offense. We don't have several shooters that we can play a normal offense with penetration causing the rotation.

Our offensive gameplan is very good. It is not elite

In the last two games, the weak spot has been the defense. MSU, specifically Hubbard, was able to drive at will. Tonight, Ziegler did the same. We couldn't stop him. He caused so much rotation.

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I would agree with a lot of this. We do the wing iso at times, but not as much as some people think

Our issue the last two games has been defensively. Not offense.

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You have a guy with an NBa body and all he needs is to go to eighth grade basketball camp and learn how to play basketball. He hasn't developed one iota since being at A&M. It's a shame.

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Let's be honest, basic fundamentals have been a glaring problem with Buzz's teams as long as I can remember. Dribbling. Passing. Free throws. Moving without the ball. Give and go. Pick and roll. Bigs not putting the ball on the ground in the paint. Guards trying to dribble through 2-3 defenders.

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Complete Idiot said:

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czar_iv said:

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AggieCrew44 said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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jja79 said:

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What is our offensive game plan? Bad ball movement, half hearted screens and poor shooting seem to be the plan.

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Have one player go hero ball so the other four can rest to play harder defense.

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It kills me that people actually believe this to be true

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Can you explain what the offense is then?

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I'm going to steal a good LouisvilleAg post as the reply:

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Because we don't have any offensive game plan or a coach that has the ability to generate offense or create high efficiency looks from our half court sets

His offense is literally to miss shots and get a bunch of offensive boards. It's why we have a bunch of low % shooters taking all kinds of bad looks bc our HC won't tell them to stop and force offense through playmakers and putting guys in higher % spots

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LouisvilleAg said:

Guess that is a simplified version.

The point of the iso offense is to get everyone on one side of the floor and back up the defender. This causes rotation. So from there, the person with the ball can shoot and we have a very good chance of rebounding because of the rotation or kick out for a three or a secondary pass.

This is our offense. We don't have several shooters that we can play a normal offense with penetration causing the rotation.

Our offensive gameplan is very good. It is not elite

In the last two games, the weak spot has been the defense. MSU, specifically Hubbard, was able to drive at will. Tonight, Ziegler did the same. We couldn't stop him. He caused so much rotation.

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I would agree with a lot of this. We do the wing iso at times, but not as much as some people think

Our issue the last two games has been defensively. Not offense.

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But do you expect to defensively shutdown teams every night? I don't think that is realistic. We have to have more flexibility in the offense. I just don't see basic concepts like Muy mentioned previously.

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AggieCrew44 said:

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Complete Idiot said:

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czar_iv said:

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AggieCrew44 said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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jja79 said:

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What is our offensive game plan? Bad ball movement, half hearted screens and poor shooting seem to be the plan.

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Have one player go hero ball so the other four can rest to play harder defense.

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It kills me that people actually believe this to be true

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Can you explain what the offense is then?

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I'm going to steal a good LouisvilleAg post as the reply:

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Because we don't have any offensive game plan or a coach that has the ability to generate offense or create high efficiency looks from our half court sets

His offense is literally to miss shots and get a bunch of offensive boards. It's why we have a bunch of low % shooters taking all kinds of bad looks bc our HC won't tell them to stop and force offense through playmakers and putting guys in higher % spots

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LouisvilleAg said:

Guess that is a simplified version.

The point of the iso offense is to get everyone on one side of the floor and back up the defender. This causes rotation. So from there, the person with the ball can shoot and we have a very good chance of rebounding because of the rotation or kick out for a three or a secondary pass.

This is our offense. We don't have several shooters that we can play a normal offense with penetration causing the rotation.

Our offensive gameplan is very good. It is not elite

In the last two games, the weak spot has been the defense. MSU, specifically Hubbard, was able to drive at will. Tonight, Ziegler did the same. We couldn't stop him. He caused so much rotation.

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I would agree with a lot of this. We do the wing iso at times, but not as much as some people think

Our issue the last two games has been defensively. Not offense.

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But do you expect to defensively shutdown teams every night? I don't think that is realistic. We have to have more flexibility in the offense. I just don't see basic concepts like Muy mentioned previously.

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Shut down? No. Play better than we have? Absolutely

Our defense has not been good since the first 4 min of the Tennessee game. We look disconnected at times. We've gotten away from doing what was working, which was Solo at the top absolutely smothering the dribble drive

Teams are penetrating effectively and getting us in rotation. You can't defend if you're constantly in rotation no matter how well coached you are. Someone will be open

Yeah, by defensive efficiency these last three games are among our worst of the season, but especially the last two.

The only games worse from a defensive standpoint than the last two games are the away Oklahoma game, the home Alabama game, and the Oregon game. And both of the Alabama and Oregon games we had huge issues with fouling. By the numbers we had that same problem last night but that's skewed because we fouled 10,000 times in the final two minutes.

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Complete Idiot said:

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czar_iv said:

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AggieCrew44 said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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jja79 said:

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What is our offensive game plan? Bad ball movement, half hearted screens and poor shooting seem to be the plan.

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Have one player go hero ball so the other four can rest to play harder defense.

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It kills me that people actually believe this to be true

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Can you explain what the offense is then?

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I'm going to steal a good LouisvilleAg post as the reply:

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Quote:

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Because we don't have any offensive game plan or a coach that has the ability to generate offense or create high efficiency looks from our half court sets

His offense is literally to miss shots and get a bunch of offensive boards. It's why we have a bunch of low % shooters taking all kinds of bad looks bc our HC won't tell them to stop and force offense through playmakers and putting guys in higher % spots

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LouisvilleAg said:

Guess that is a simplified version.

The point of the iso offense is to get everyone on one side of the floor and back up the defender. This causes rotation. So from there, the person with the ball can shoot and we have a very good chance of rebounding because of the rotation or kick out for a three or a secondary pass.

This is our offense. We don't have several shooters that we can play a normal offense with penetration causing the rotation.

Our offensive gameplan is very good. It is not elite

In the last two games, the weak spot has been the defense. MSU, specifically Hubbard, was able to drive at will. Tonight, Ziegler did the same. We couldn't stop him. He caused so much rotation.

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I would agree with a lot of this. We do the wing iso at times, but not as much as some people think

Our issue the last two games has been defensively. Not offense.

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I would argue that turnovers played a massive difference in the State and Vandy losses. Not so much against UT. When you are an offensively inept team like us, you have to do 2 things at an ELITE level to compensate for poor shooting--get second chances and take care of the ball.

fightintxag13 said:

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AggieCrew44 said:

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Complete Idiot said:

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czar_iv said:

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AggieCrew44 said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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jja79 said:

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What is our offensive game plan? Bad ball movement, half hearted screens and poor shooting seem to be the plan.

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Have one player go hero ball so the other four can rest to play harder defense.

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It kills me that people actually believe this to be true

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Can you explain what the offense is then?

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I'm going to steal a good LouisvilleAg post as the reply:

Quote:

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Quote:

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Because we don't have any offensive game plan or a coach that has the ability to generate offense or create high efficiency looks from our half court sets

His offense is literally to miss shots and get a bunch of offensive boards. It's why we have a bunch of low % shooters taking all kinds of bad looks bc our HC won't tell them to stop and force offense through playmakers and putting guys in higher % spots

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LouisvilleAg said:

Guess that is a simplified version.

The point of the iso offense is to get everyone on one side of the floor and back up the defender. This causes rotation. So from there, the person with the ball can shoot and we have a very good chance of rebounding because of the rotation or kick out for a three or a secondary pass.

This is our offense. We don't have several shooters that we can play a normal offense with penetration causing the rotation.

Our offensive gameplan is very good. It is not elite

In the last two games, the weak spot has been the defense. MSU, specifically Hubbard, was able to drive at will. Tonight, Ziegler did the same. We couldn't stop him. He caused so much rotation.

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I would agree with a lot of this. We do the wing iso at times, but not as much as some people think

Our issue the last two games has been defensively. Not offense.

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I would argue that turnovers played a massive difference in the State and Vandy losses. Not so much against UT. When you are an offensively inept team like us, you have to do 2 things at an ELITE level to compensate for poor shooting--get second chances and take care of the ball.

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Turnovers definitely have contributed no doubt. I've just come to live with the fact that with how we play turnovers are going to be inevitable, we just can't be completely reckless to the point it changes games