As a fellow Texas A&I grad, Buzz is a former Javelina asst coach, not head coach. Let that sink in for a minute.

He's a nice guy and great family man.

I didn't say he wasn't one. I said being one isn't what he values.

I'm here all the time. I also said this was my opinion.

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bobinator said:

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Buzz is gonna take us to three straight tournaments and some of yall show up after losses like we're a Melvin team.

Buzz isn't a great coach, but he's a pretty good one. You can criticize the coaching and the team without being completely hyperbolic.

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I cant agree with this more. A&M is slumping late and it's disappointing and surprising given we are so experienced. However, I've followed each game this year - not just the past 3. We have 6 quad 1 wins and 8 quad 2 wins - probably up there all time in program history. Still fighting for a 3 seed, which is the best all time seed for an aggie team (earned twice before I believe).

I agree our player talent is limited and we have offensive issues. But we have still had a very strong year and I assess it as an overall year, not based on a 3 game stretch.

It's awful recently - well, Ole Miss and Vandy were awful to me, UT was ok just didn't hit shots and opponent did (maybe a pattern, I get it).

It seems crazy to say but it's based on past Aggie experiences and past college basketball experiences - despite the 3 game ****fest we could still beat Florida and Auburn (most likely Auburn). I watched the past 3 game and did not like what I saw or results, but also watched the 6 Quad 1 wins and being competitive in the 6 quad 1 losses with a couple exceptions. The team has it in them to play much better than the past 3 and I say that because I've seen it.

I'm not sure what is off at the moment or how they will correct it, I just know it is possible and let's see how the last 3 games go.

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I was with you all the way until the bolded part.

Buzz should take a 40% pay cut and ask for the savings to be routed to basketball NIL.

Some of yall are too kind to a guy who can't sniff a deep tourney run despite getting paid like a sweet 16 regular.

greg.w.h said:

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So…you can't coach but you know he isn't one?

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And you know he can't coach how? From his post? Clairvoyance?

With recent NCAA toury seeding dissapointments fresh on our minds their narratives suit their feelings of A&M being a baseball school. If they tumble in the seedings it won't be the old 'body of work' or weak schedule reotine it will be 'perhaps everyone had them rated too highly and in the last few weeks the commitee felt they had a better understanding of what they bring to the table'. Don't look for any forgiveness or understanding from them as it it hasn't been working out like that in recent times. And frankly do they even deserve it. Everyone is supposed to be starting their peak now, not trying to rebuild lost confidence in their game.

FTAG 2000 said:

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Buzz should take a 40% pay cut and ask for the savings to be routed to basketball NIL.

Some of yall are too kind to a guy who can't sniff a deep tourney run despite getting paid like a sweet 16 regular.

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I am sure you have volunteered to do this for the betterment of your company.

He's not a bad coach, but his teams will NEVER string together 4+ wins in the tournament. They aren't designed that way and it's always been that way. They can't shoot well that many games in a row. Never ever happen. Good coach though.

aggie-1997 said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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Buzz should take a 40% pay cut and ask for the savings to be routed to basketball NIL.

Some of yall are too kind to a guy who can't sniff a deep tourney run despite getting paid like a sweet 16 regular.

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I am sure you have volunteered to do this for the betterment of your company.

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Why would I do that? Our company is the industry leader in our market. If I was underperforming when it mattered I wouldn't be here.

But A&M operates like the federal government. Once you are in you are damn near impossible to fire and get raises regardless of performance when it matters (in Buzz's case, March).

But all he does is whine about NIL funds while scrubs like Hef reportedly pull in 100k. Just a clown show of mismanagement of resources.

If the players are what matters so much why doesn't he take a pay cut and have the donors go buy him some alpha wings?

No excuse for the offense to be this bad this far into his tenure - despite the philosophy of 'buzz ball'.

bobinator said:

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Buzz is gonna take us to three straight tournaments and some of yall show up after losses like we're a Melvin team.

Buzz isn't a great coach, but he's a pretty good one. You can criticize the coaching and the team without being completely hyperbolic.

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You set the bar pretty low for a coach who's almost in the top 10 for annual salary.

FTAG 2000 said:

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aggie-1997 said:

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FTAG 2000 said:

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Buzz should take a 40% pay cut and ask for the savings to be routed to basketball NIL.

Some of yall are too kind to a guy who can't sniff a deep tourney run despite getting paid like a sweet 16 regular.

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I am sure you have volunteered to do this for the betterment of your company.

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Why would I do that? Our company is the industry leader in our market. If I was underperforming when it mattered I wouldn't be here.

But A&M operates like the federal government. Once you are in you are damn near impossible to fire and get raises regardless of performance when it matters (in Buzz's case, March).

But all he does is whine about NIL funds while scrubs like Hef reportedly pull in 100k. Just a clown show of mismanagement of resources.

If the players are what matters so much why doesn't he take a pay cut and have the donors go buy him some alpha wings?

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Hef makes 100K because that was the player payout for the NIL tourney we participated in, a tourney Buzz practically begged to play in because we are so behind compared to our competition

You can't be this intentionally obtuse

I guarantee the right coach who knows how to work NIL can build a better team overnight.

Muy said:

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I guarantee the right coach who knows how to work NIL can build a better team overnight.

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Put some names on the coaching search thread if you've got ideas. We've been trying to come up with who we might go after if Buzz leaves.

These are some of the best years we've had in Aggie Basketball. Buzz is one of the best coaches A&M Basketball has ever had. We are in a tough slump, again...but Buzz can't make shots and play defense.

This is a veteran team and a lot falls on them. They've been here before. It's time to act like it.

Im calling it now, Buzz loses the 3 piece suit, and it's track suit/joggers from here on out. (It worked last year)

I mean if the OP is true you have to admit the fact it's pretty amazing a guidance counselor, whose focus isn't even basketball, has taken 3 different teams to 10 NCAA and 2 NIT tourney appearances in 16 years with 3 sweet 16's and an elite 8. College teams could really get some coaches on the cheap if shopping the guidance counselor ranks.

I don't think Buzz is an elite coach but he's strong and has had success, he's never had a losing record in the SEC over 5 full seasons. But the ceiling isn't as high as we'd ideally like due to talent levels and what he feels he has to do to overcome talent level. He also may have changed over his career, his mentorship goals vs basketball goals balance has probably tipped a certain way over his 16 years leading teams. There are things I am not a fan of like drowning young non-OCD men with numbers and minutiae and constantly downplaying his team's talent levels and limitations and saying things like "to have any chance to win" and things like that. But that's nitpicking, only results should matter. He doesn't bring in top athletic talent, top basketball skill, but we do get some solid players - a few (very few) who bounce on the edge of NBA - that does affect results. But even with that about to have a third tourney appearance in his 5th full season and after only 2 tourney appearances the prior 8 seasons. In the history of A&M program's history they have earned a 3 seed in the tourney twice, we are still battling for a third such seeding. I don't care what the coach is paid, and maybe have lower "I'm happy" expectations than others for Men's Basketball at A&M. I get wanting to win every game and win the NCAA tourney.

buzz is an amazing person

buzz is a really good coach but he is a better person than coach.

that's not the worst thing that can happen to us and for those that say he can never take a team to the final four you haven't watch basketball over the last decade. literally anyone can make it if the cards fall right. multiple 10+ seeds have made it in the last 10 years.

bobinator said:

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Buzz is gonna take us to three straight tournaments and some of yall show up after losses like we're a Melvin team.

Buzz isn't a great coach, but he's a pretty good one. You can criticize the coaching and the team without being completely hyperbolic.

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1,000%

In the days of NIL and player transfer, character is of little consequence to winning. He is being paid to win, not develop men of good character

Keeper of The Spirits said:

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In the days of NIL and player transfer, character is of little consequence to winning. He is being paid to win, not develop men of good character

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And that is what will make Buzz retire just like Larrinaga, Tony Bennett, Jay Wright, etc.

It's definitely not the same as what it used to be and that's ok. But good luck to A&M finding a better coach trying to come in and be an annual tournament team at a football, baseball, then basketball school.

Everyone has improved. So the measuring stick is higher. Just like football. People forget the league is so good that a coach we bring in if he wins he is a like atop 5 coach in the country.

Elko and Buzz are not that

bobinator said:

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Buzz is gonna take us to three straight tournaments and some of yall show up after losses like we're a Melvin team.

Buzz isn't a great coach, but he's a pretty good one. You can criticize the coaching and the team without being completely hyperbolic.

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Good post, context is really important here.

Big picture we are getting what we as Aggies want. 3 consecutive seasons in the tournament. But expectations got away from us a bit I think. Will be disappointing if we can't win some games in the tournament this year but overall the program is trending well.

That said, we can't mortgage the future if IU or another place comes calling. Hope we make good decisions on that front.

OriolePete said:

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He's not a bad coach, but his teams will NEVER string together 4+ wins in the tournament. They aren't designed that way and it's always been that way. They can't shoot well that many games in a row. Never ever happen. Good coach though.

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My memory is fuzzy, but didn't he make the finals of the NIT (a tournament) and the SEC tournament (a tournament) a couple of times?

I know these examples are not "the tournament" but they show that Buzz's teams have the ability to string together wins in a postseason tournament format.

bobinator said:

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Muy said:

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I guarantee the right coach who knows how to work NIL can build a better team overnight.

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Put some names on the coaching search thread if you've got ideas. We've been trying to come up with who we might go after if Buzz leaves.

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Take the best 5A High School coach in Texas, just give him top talent.