Won't happen, but ...

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I can say I never, ever expected Buzz & crew to win more than 4 in the conference, maybe 5.

Given the talent level, Buzz should be given serious consideration for SEC Coach of the Year. Rarely has anyone done so much with so little.

Won't happen, but ...
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Might happen because people might not want to give it to Cal, Pearl or Wade
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Finally after 8 years I can enjoy our basketball team again.

Really proud of our coaches and our guys.

The future is bright!
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bobinator said:

Might happen because people might not want to give it to Cal, Pearl or Wade
I think he is still at least a couple more SEC wins short to get strong consideration.
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Well yeah, we at least have to finish .500
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If he were to win ten conference games he
Might get the nod. Imo , he would deserve it in that case.
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You didn't enjoy Aggie basketball when we went to Sweet 16 in 2016 and 2018?

RR
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AggieEyes said:

Finally after 8 years I can enjoy our basketball team again.

Really proud of our coaches and our guys.

The future is bright!
Stupid post. I disliked BK as a coach as much as anyone, but I'm not sure what to say if you didn't have any fun in 2016 or 2018.
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Pumpkinhead said:

bobinator said:

Might happen because people might not want to give it to Cal, Pearl or Wade
I think he is still at least a couple more SEC wins short to get strong consideration.
I LOVE Buzz, but still think Cal deserves it for this year. They've made similar improvements to A&M after starting at a higher spot. Sure, they've got better talent in general, but Cal recruited all of that. This is a very different team from his 1ND specials the last several and they are playing such good basketball right now. If they continue that through the end of the season, he's likely a slam dunk.

I think Buzz needs to end up 10-8 to even be in the conversation; likely with a head to head win.

Pearl has done a great job with lesser talent, but has come back a bit. Wade is a scum bag and should never even be considered, and fortunately has also come back (lack of anything resembling defense is catching up to them).
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CapCityAg89 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

bobinator said:

Might happen because people might not want to give it to Cal, Pearl or Wade
I think he is still at least a couple more SEC wins short to get strong consideration.
I LOVE Buzz, but still think Cal deserves it for this year. They've made similar improvements to A&M after starting at a higher spot. Sure, they've got better talent in general, but Cal recruited all of that. This is a very different team from his 1ND specials the last several and they are playing such good basketball right now. If they continue that through the end of the season, he's likely a slam dunk.
The way Cal has turned a depth chart made up almost entirely of 5-star recruits into one of the best teams in a bad conference has been impressive
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Considering where folks thought they would be after their roster turnover, if South Carolina trudges into the NCAAs again, I'd quite possibly lean towards giving Frank Martin the award.
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BK had talent at times however you would rarely see a fundamentally sound product on the floor. It was infuriating.

Buzz would've killed it with TD, Hogg, Gilder, Williams, TTM, Caruso, House, Jones etc, etc

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South Carolina probably has to win 4 of their next 5 to feel good going into the SEC Tournament, but yeah if they pull that off it would definitely be Martin.
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Buzz probably would have kicked Hogg off the team as soon as he met him.
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AggieEyes said:

BK had talent at times however you would rarely see a fundamentally sound product on the floor. It was infuriating.

Buzz would've killed it with TD, Hogg, Gilder, Williams, TTM, Caruso, House, Jones etc, etc

Kennedy also pretty much 'killed it' with that roster, beating Texas, Gonzaga, Baylor, Kansas State, and Iowa State in non-conference, winning A&M's only conference title in basketball, and making the Sweet Sixteen. That team was finished Top-20 overall in Kenpom (and Top-10 defensively) and was 'fundamentally sound' by college team standards.

Where you see a better coach like Buzz really shine IMO is with inferior rosters that are not loaded like that 2015-2016 roster, like this year's roster.
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Kennedy also pretty much 'killed it' with that roster, beating Texas, Gonzaga, Baylor, Kansas State, and Iowa State in non-conference, winning A&M's only conference title in basketball, and making the Sweet Sixteen.

Yeah but he also have 5 straight wtf conference losses
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In Buzz's last sweet 16 season he loses to Duke after a beautiful inbounds play that a player unfortunately missed. In BK's last sweet 16, we lost by a hundred to Michigan.
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machine20 said:

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Kennedy also pretty much 'killed it' with that roster, beating Texas, Gonzaga, Baylor, Kansas State, and Iowa State in non-conference, winning A&M's only conference title in basketball, and making the Sweet Sixteen.

Yeah but he also have 5 straight wtf conference losses
And then they righted the ship and won the conference, including beating Kentucky at home and having a great SEC tournament.

I'll continue defending on this board that 2015-2016 team as one of the two best teams in A&M history, second only to the 2006-2007. Very likable players who gave great effort most nights and the coaching was generally fine that year. I think posters trying to bag on the 2015-2016 season are trying too hard to hate. That was a great Aggie hoops season IMO that should be remembered fondly.
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Method Man said:

In Buzz's last sweet 16 season he loses to Duke after a beautiful inbounds play that a player unfortunately missed. In BK's last sweet 16, we lost by a hundred to Michigan.
Unlike the 2015-2016 team which I really liked and have no problem defending and arguing for, I didn't like that 2017-2018 team at all...regardless of the Sweet Sixteen appearance.

All the knucklehead crap and inconsistent effort...I eventually threw in the towel on a bunch of those players early in conference play as I realized that I as a fan maybe cared more about A&M having a good season than those players did. There were still several highs like destroying Kentucky in Reed, beating a top-10 Auburn team on the road, and of course that weekend in Charlotte, but they were so VERY hard to like.

Except for Duane Wilson...I really liked that kid and he basically gave up his knee for our program. Him I definitely respected along with Tyler Davis, but several of the others, nope.
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Ok and that great team and I agree they were great got killed by OU and had no shot about ten minutes in. I think it's a results based industry but also I think it's good to feel like you're gonna have your team's best shot no matter what. I think we are edging that way but we still have a ways to go.
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I just don't get why people feel the need to quantify this season with previous seasons. It's not like in the TexAgs bylaws that you have to criticize the Kennedy era in order to praise the current team.
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Buzz probably would have kicked Hogg off the team as soon as he met him.
Damn Bobinator, where were you when I needed ya? Or is that a troll? And 3 stars already?
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And then they righted the ship and won the conference, including beating Kentucky at home and having a great SEC tournament.

Yes- Co-champs. Lost to fellow co-champ at conference tourney.
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bobinator said:

I just don't get why people feel the need to quantify this season with previous seasons. It's not like in the TexAgs bylaws that you have to criticize the Kennedy era in order to praise the current team.
it's hard to avoid obvious contrasts. We did a 180 turn in coaching quality.

But you are right--- the focus should be on the future. Which is NOW very bright.
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Yeah, and like, I get it... it just seems overdone sometimes.
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and I agree. For one, I need to do better to not take the bait when people post stuff about bk... Even if seems revisionist history a bit....
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bobinator said:

Buzz probably would have kicked Hogg off the team as soon as he met him.


Hogg and Buzz....Yikes...

Buzz would have loved Caruso, House, and Jones though. They would have done just fine together.
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I think it might have taken a while with House.

I think the most Buzz player of the 2016-18 era would be Tyler Davis.
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bobinator said:

I just don't get why people feel the need to quantify this season with previous seasons. It's not like in the TexAgs bylaws that you have to criticize the Kennedy era in order to praise the current team.


What if we had Jimbo instead of Sumlin coaching the 2012 football team. How much better would we have been that season? Let's discuss.
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Preach
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bobinator said:

I think it might have taken a while with House.

I think the most Buzz player of the 2016-18 era would be Tyler Davis.


In personality?

Certainly not schematically.
Method Man
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Jones, Caruso, Wilson, Trocha
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Could you imagine if we had gilder this year?
bobinator
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Yeah, just meant work ethic/leadership wise.
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Buzz da Man.
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