Mark French.wacarnolds said:ConeMackWheeler
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Isn't that what we had last year with Mitchell and Starks and had trouble initiating our offense when another team put constant pressure on the ball? And playing French for some minutes even at his size improved the situation.Aston04 said:
Exactly. Previous staff recruited for that and did not generally work out well. Give me a guy who can shoot, get to rim and is decent with the ball. Couple combo guards can handle a press just fine.
Definitely too many +'s on my original note but that is a pretty fine list of PG's on the listing below from our NCAA tourney teams that you asked about.expresswrittenconsent said:
Do we really need a guy with "A++ handles"?
Which of our 8 tourney teams over the last 15 yrs had one?
Everyone of those guys is a pure PG and everyone of those guys had great handles with Caruso being the closest to a combo guard. Great handles doesn't mean playing like a Harlem Globetrotter.expresswrittenconsent said:
All were great Aggies and I hope you get your stars for listing all of our guards from those NCAAT teams. That being said, none were really the kind of guy you've described.
Good news is twofold:
1. That list shows we dont need Steve Nash to win and go dancing.
2. That guy plays for Georgia now and all the games are on TV.
the studs on that list weren't the stereotypical "A+ handles" recruits...Gap said:Definitely too many +'s on my original note but that is a pretty fine list of PG's on the listing below from our NCAA tourney teams that you asked about.expresswrittenconsent said:
Do we really need a guy with "A++ handles"?
Which of our 8 tourney teams over the last 15 yrs had one?
2006 - Acie Law
2007 - Acie Law, Donald Sloan
2008 - Donald Sloan
2009 - Donald Sloan
2010 - Donald Sloan, Dash Harris
2011 - Dash Harris
2016 - Alex Caruso, Anthony Collins
2018 - Duane Wilson (after his injury we we from a top 5 team to 0-5 in the SEC)
None of these players were A++ ball handlers. Every year we expected the next big guard recruit to be that guy and it never happened.Gap said:Definitely too many +'s on my original note but that is a pretty fine list of PG's on the listing below from our NCAA tourney teams that you asked about.expresswrittenconsent said:
Do we really need a guy with "A++ handles"?
Which of our 8 tourney teams over the last 15 yrs had one?
2006 - Acie Law
2007 - Acie Law, Donald Sloan
2008 - Donald Sloan
2009 - Donald Sloan
2010 - Donald Sloan, Dash Harris
2011 - Dash Harris
2016 - Alex Caruso, Anthony Collins
2018 - Duane Wilson (after his injury we we from a top 5 team to 0-5 in the SEC)
Gap said:
So our best PG's that play/played the position in the NBA, didn't have good handles? You never let me down Texags. It seems you guys seem to want to make good handles into a player that is a dribbling fool who can't shoot.
MarcAg said:
Starks is a PG and Gordon is a PG. Mitchell can handle the ball fine. I'm not worried about lack of a PG.
What a horrible post. We were merely talking about TYPES of point guard prospects. Ironically, my point was the type you like weren't labeled as A+ handler types during the recruiting process and worked out great at point.. That's exactly it.. We don't need to have a guy that fits that stereotype during his recruitment to run the offense. So the guys Buzz has signed- labeled as "combo guards," may work out great.Gap said:
So our best PG's that play/played the position in the NBA, didn't have good handles? You never let me down Texags. It seems you guys seem to want to make good handles into a player that is a dribbling fool who can't shoot.
Of the returning players, Starks certainly can get to any where he wants on the court...he is as 'elite' at doing that as anyone we have ever had in College Station IMO. The issue is the second part of your question: whether his decision making will improve as a junior - 3rd season in D1 - and under a different coaching staff.Gap said:
For simplicity, no labels. We need a point guard who can get where he wants on the court and makes good decisions with the ball in his hands. Our NCAA history says we need one (most every outstanding team has one). Do we have that kind of guy on the team now? If he is already on our roster, who is he?
BCG's 2007 squad had a low TO%, while 2nd in the nation on defense in creating TOs. It's the differential that really counts.expresswrittenconsent said:
Do we really need a guy with "A++ handles"?
Which of our 8 tourney teams over the last 15 yrs had one?
DTP02 said:
We won't be running the same offense this season. Buzz wants to put at least four players on the court who have enough offensive skill to handle, shoot and pass at least decently well. He's all about versatility on both ends of the court. That takes some of the load off the PG.
Also, this latest version of the Va Tech team ran a lot of the offense thru the high post. I'm not sure how much we can do that unless we land Blackshear, but the bigger point is that we aren't likely to be putting all of our handling and initiating responsibilities on one guy- by design not just personnel.
If Buzz was convinced he needed another pure PG, we would have pushed more for Wheeler IMO.