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BigJim49 AustinNowDallas said:

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I'm not giving up on Starks...he's got game. Just needs how to lead and not be selfish. That can still happen.

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...but that would require coaching.

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4 for 25 first two games and it's coaching ?

folks , we are missing our best player - it's going to take time. Lots of new players . Patience !

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Coaching would sit his ass down and make him watch his opponents when he shoots a ridiculous 3 from the half-court logo less than 3 minutes into the season.

Coaching wouldn't allow 4/25 the way he's doing it. It's not like he's Josh Carter catching and shooting corner 3's and just hasn't honed it in yet.

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Exactly. Way too many poor looks & forced shots. That's what should earn him bench time.

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It should- but coach really struggles on how to be creative with his lineups... During his tenure, too often has made it a binary choice between playing 1 struggling player or walk-on player.

Whereas, if he was creative with his lineups, as long as the team isn't killing us with a press, we wouldn't need Starks or Collins in there (even with gilder and mitchell out).

And with 3 timeouts in his pocket he could have had Collins or Starks bring it up to half court (if worried about pressure)- timeout and sub him out... But we just stick with easy substitution patterns that don't optimize our chance at winning.

3 years and BK still feels like he has to put Barone on the floor. Just amazing.

Are we onto coaching now?

Okay, I thought the new assistant coach was going to fix/revamp the offense, but when UCI went into a 2-3 zone all I saw was the same old "five players standing around waiting for the zone to magically open up on its own" offensive strategy.

Junkhead said:

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Bunk Moreland said:

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BigJim49 AustinNowDallas said:

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DukeMu said:

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Method Man said:

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sincereag said:

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I'm not giving up on Starks...he's got game. Just needs how to lead and not be selfish. That can still happen.

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...but that would require coaching.

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4 for 25 first two games and it's coaching ?

folks , we are missing our best player - it's going to take time. Lots of new players . Patience !

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Coaching would sit his ass down and make him watch his opponents when he shoots a ridiculous 3 from the half-court logo less than 3 minutes into the season.

Coaching wouldn't allow 4/25 the way he's doing it. It's not like he's Josh Carter catching and shooting corner 3's and just hasn't honed it in yet.

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Exactly. Way too many poor looks & forced shots. That's what should earn him bench time.

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Have to admit shot selection IS a real evaluation tool. And an age old "get hollered at" for being poor with same.

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It is a new year and sure enough we already have our new scapegoat player or players who are the real problem. I am sure I am missing others but I seem to recall similar blame the player threads for Middleton, House, Jalen Jones, Hogg, etc. At what point do we realize the players change but the same problems still remain?

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Eh they're both wrong. Starks is playing selfish ball and taking dumb shots just like he did for significant portions of last year. He's ABSOLUTELY old enough to know better than this; a college sophomore doesn't need coaching to know that it's stupid to take nearly-half-court threes with a full shot clock, especially when the player in question is a lousy three point shooter.

Independently of that, Kennedy needs to rein him in, just like he needed to rein in Robert Williams on 3-point attempts, House on contested 3s, etc. etc. I don't expect Starks to stop taking dumb shots or Kennedy to do anything when Starks does. We've got lots of data on both and this is just how they roll.

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Starks takes shots because no one else is open and is passing the ball back.

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Reminds me of the first 2 years with ET, except Turner could actual knock down difficult shots at a high rate. What an underrated player

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Most underrated player of BK era

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Kentucky fans gave him credit.

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Starks takes shots because no one else is open and is passing the ball back.

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Reminds me of the first 2 years with ET, except Turner could actual knock down difficult shots at a high rate. What an underrated player

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Most underrated player of BK era

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The guy that got 1st team All-SEC was underrated?

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Starks takes shots because no one else is open and is passing the ball back.

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Reminds me of the first 2 years with ET, except Turner could actual knock down difficult shots at a high rate. What an underrated player

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Most underrated player of BK era

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The guy that got 1st team All-SEC was underrated?

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I think he means underrated by the dolts on this message board.

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Starks takes shots because no one else is open and is passing the ball back.

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Reminds me of the first 2 years with ET, except Turner could actual knock down difficult shots at a high rate. What an underrated player

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Most underrated player of BK era

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The guy that got 1st team All-SEC was underrated?

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I think he means underrated by the dolts on this message board.

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Ehhh. Sure there are some knuckleheads here but I feel like plenty of people included ET when we had a thread on building the best roster from players of the last 10-15 years this offseason.

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Starks takes shots because no one else is open and is passing the ball back.

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Reminds me of the first 2 years with ET, except Turner could actual knock down difficult shots at a high rate. What an underrated player

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Most underrated player of BK era

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The guy that got 1st team All-SEC was underrated?

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I think he means underrated by the dolts on this message board.

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Yes....probably not the basketball board but most Aggies