Gilder and Davis

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farleyaggie
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Is there any update on them? When will we know if they are coming back?

Thanks!
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https://texags.com/forums/7/topics/2949580/2#discussion
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EliteZags
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they are going to play basketball
bobinator
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EliteZags said:

they are going to play basketball


Didn't say "staying to play basketball." Remaining in the draft confirmed per EliteZags.
Oak Forest Ag
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What is the last day to remove their names from the draft? May 31?
Double Diamond
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Davis staying in the draft. Reporting it as I got the scoop.
miller0926
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TjgtAg08
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Ugh
bangobango
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Bright side is this just speeds up BK's exit. Assuming, of course, we haven't decided to sign him to a lifetime contract already.....
mhayden
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So what you're saying is when BZ told us 3 months ago that Davis had one foot out the door and wasn't likely to come back that he wasn't just making things up?
Serious Lee
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tyler said when he signed that he wouldnt leave until we reached the final four. appears he was the one making stuff up
Double Diamond
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Worst kept secret ever. Unless you read stuff on here.
_lefraud_
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BZ isn't a texags insider...so yea, he knows stuff.
mhayden
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And 6 months from now when we're struggling due to lack of size I'm sure certain posters will be chiming in with something along the lines of "well there's no way Kennedy could have predicted that Davis was going to leave early".
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It'll be more like "Well, Kennedy was due a rebounding year after making it to the second weekend twice in three years. And because of A&M's history, we shouldn't expect to be competitive every year, so manage your expectations."
Method Man
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True, hayden
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free_mhayden said:

And 6 months from now when we're struggling due to lack of size I'm sure certain posters will be chiming in with something along the lines of "well there's no way Kennedy could have predicted that Davis was going to leave early".
The problem isn't predicting it. The problem is having the high level recruits you want see the path to them playing 30 minutes a game when it looks like a situation where they would be a bench player.
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Double Diamond
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Another excuse.
GE
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free_mhayden said:

So what you're saying is when BZ told us 3 months ago that Davis had one foot out the door and wasn't likely to come back that he wasn't just making things up?
Pretty simplistic way of viewing the world....
mhayden
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GE said:

free_mhayden said:

So what you're saying is when BZ told us 3 months ago that Davis had one foot out the door and wasn't likely to come back that he wasn't just making things up?
Pretty simplistic way of viewing the world....

What is?
Stone44
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Ryno01 said:


Fat loser clown.
GE
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free_mhayden said:

GE said:

free_mhayden said:

So what you're saying is when BZ told us 3 months ago that Davis had one foot out the door and wasn't likely to come back that he wasn't just making things up?
Pretty simplistic way of viewing the world....

What is?
Assuming that because Davis will likely leave for Europe now, that is what BZ was talking about months ago
MidTnAg
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Davis apparently going to Europe. Doubt he will get drafted. Poor decision. He should have stayed and earned his degree. Another year in college might have gotten him an invite to the Combine and possibly be drafted.
Serious Lee
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from a draftability perspective, its not a bad decision. hes has limitations that another year in college wont fix. now as far as leaving his team a year early just to play in a C league, well you can make your own mind up as to why hes doing that.
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I just hope Davis, Hogg and Williams took care of their academics this Spring, I'd hate to see the next coach handicapped with APR issues...
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MidTnAg said:

Davis apparently going to Europe. Doubt he will get drafted. Poor decision. He should have stayed and earned his degree. Another year in college might have gotten him an invite to the Combine and possibly be drafted.
I don't think so. He is who he is. Another year in college would have been one more year he played for free. He has already achieved great things in college. Time to go get paid for it. I think he is making the smart decision by leaving.
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MidTnAg said:

Davis apparently going to Europe. Doubt he will get drafted. Poor decision. He should have stayed and earned his degree. Another year in college might have gotten him an invite to the Combine and possibly be drafted.
This is objectively wrong. The knock on Davis is his athleticism. That's not changing with another year. He's already proven he is strong as an ox, that he's got an insane work ethic, and that he has great fundamentals around the basket. Maybe if he spent the off season developing an outside game that'd help a bit, but Davis isn't a stretch 4/5 no matter how you slice it. Besides, what makes you think the coaching he gets here would be better than the coaching he gets in Europe for a year before potentially coming to the NBA later (unlikely that he'd go overseas and come back, but then so is another year of him playing at A&M). Plus, a good player in Europe is making $150k+. Can't fault him for taking that opportunity and the chance to travel across europe.

Best of luck to him. Loved watching him play for the Ags.
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MidTnAg said:

Davis apparently going to Europe. Doubt he will get drafted. Poor decision. He should have stayed and earned his degree. Another year in college might have gotten him an invite to the Combine and possibly be drafted.
Davis can come back to college whenever he wants and get his degree.
mhayden
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GE said:

free_mhayden said:

GE said:

free_mhayden said:

So what you're saying is when BZ told us 3 months ago that Davis had one foot out the door and wasn't likely to come back that he wasn't just making things up?
Pretty simplistic way of viewing the world....

What is?
Assuming that because Davis will likely leave for Europe now, that is what BZ was talking about months ago

A reporter reported back in February that a player had one foot out the door and apparently wasn't planning on sticking around his Senior year.

Despite what most of the Texags staff and posters thought, he's now announced he is not sticking around even with no NBA draft interest.

It's not simplistic to think that BZ knew something back in February, it's logical.
damoo80
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Maybe if the offense ran through Tyler and he knew he would be the first option all season he would have stayed. He could put up 20/10 a game if he was the focal point.
jeffdjohnson
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Terrible blow for the team. The 5 best players now are probably Starks/Gilder/Mitchell/Flagg/Nebo. Although we have never seen Mitchell and Nebo play here so even that is TBD. It would be a pretty small lineup but could be an interesting one depending on how much Starks/Flagg improve their 3 point percentage. The only "proven" depth we have is JJ Chandler and he didn't even play that well.

The worst thing is that Kennedy will almost certainly start and play Jasey for 25+ minutes a game because he is a center. Jasey just didn't look great in limited minutes last year. Keeping Davis would have pushed Jasey into limited minutes and turned a negative into a major positive. This completely changed the complexion of the team.

I suppose this was always the way the Kennedy era was meant to end. Everything in flames.
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_lefraud_ said:

I just hope Davis, Hogg and Williams took care of their academics this Spring, I'd hate to see the next coach handicapped with APR issues...
g'dammit
Aston04
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jeffdjohnson said:

Terrible blow for the team. The 5 best players now are probably Starks/Gilder/Mitchell/Flagg/Nebo. Although we have never seen Mitchell and Nebo play here so even that is TBD. It would be a pretty small lineup but could be an interesting one depending on how much Starks/Flagg improve their 3 point percentage. The only "proven" depth we have is JJ Chandler and he didn't even play that well.

The worst thing is that Kennedy will almost certainly start and play Jasey for 25+ minutes a game because he is a center. Jasey just didn't look great in limited minutes last year. Keeping Davis would have pushed Jasey into limited minutes and turned a negative into a major positive. This completely changed the complexion of the team.

I suppose this was always the way the Kennedy era was meant to end. Everything in flames.


If jasey plays that much we are screwed or he got way better. I could easily see BK being short sighted enough to play him a bunch either way.
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