Not shocked at the first one to hit the wire

Guy did well at Vandy. I guess at least BCG won some games at UK. I wonder at the back story.

Andy Kennedy got got midseason...

bobinator said:

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Andy Kennedy got got midseason...

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Good point. After their loss last night, Kennedy is officially done

Bunk Moreland said:

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Not shocked at the first one to hit the wire

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So this is gonna be fun...

Pitt trying to create an excuse to get out of the $9.4 million buyout.

Stallings buyout is so high because he has 4 years left. Thats what happens when you hire away a $2M+ coach (what Stallings was making at Vandy) and have to fire him in year 2.

JJxvi said:

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Stallings buyout is so high because he has 4 years left. Thats what happens when you hire away a $2M+ coach (what Stallings was making at Vandy) and have to fire him in year 2.

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Right, I guess what I mean is, why can't "cause" in the contract include results on the floor? Like, if you just sick, like Pitt did, why can't that be "cause" for firings?

I know the fear is what kind of coach will you attract if a contract is written as such, but at the very least, couldn't you say in the contract will be significantly less if you have crappy results.

I'm just tired of seeing coaches with all this leverage, again, only about 10 or so coaches should really demand such lucrative coaches, that leave the schools with practically zero leverage.

_lefraud_ said:

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JJxvi said:

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Stallings buyout is so high because he has 4 years left. Thats what happens when you hire away a $2M+ coach (what Stallings was making at Vandy) and have to fire him in year 2.

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Right, I guess what I mean is, why can't "cause" in the contract include results on the floor? Like, if you just sick, like Pitt did, why can't that be "cause" for firings?

I know the fear is what kind of coach will you attract if a contract is written as such, but at the very least, couldn't you say in the contract will be significantly less if you have crappy results.

I'm just tired of seeing coaches with all this leverage, again, only about 10 or so coaches should really demand such lucrative coaches, that leave the schools with practically zero leverage.

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"Cause" is whatever the contract defines it to be, but it always ends up to be conduct-related rather than performance-related. I suppose you could argue that if cause is both cheating and losing, there really isn't any incentive not to cheat.

Right, so maybe schools should add in the contract:

If in any given season, a coach fails to win at least %25 of its conference games, than that could "cause" for termination and a lower buyout of the remaining contract (if any) will be in the amount of $1 million dollars.

That would be going 4-14 or worse. Seems pretty reasonable, and still not scare off any other potential coaches.

_lefraud_ said:

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Right, so maybe schools should add in the contract:

If in any given season, a coach fails to win at least %25 of its conference games, than that could "cause" for termination and a lower buyout of the remaining contract (if any) will be in the amount of $1 million dollars.

That would be going 4-14 or worse. Seems pretty reasonable, and still not scare off any other potential coaches.

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That would be fine, but no school will do it because of "appearances."

If you're interested in staying updated, lots of news on here and rumors in the coaching profession:

HoopDirt 2018 Coaching Changes Tracker

Great follow on twitter: @coachingchanges https://twitter.com/CoachingChanges although it can be a bit distasteful

John Pugliese said:

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If you're interested in staying updated, lots of news on here and rumors in the coaching profession:

HoopDirt 2018 Coaching Changes Tracker

Great follow on twitter: @coachingchanges https://twitter.com/CoachingChanges although it can be a bit distasteful

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That;s a good site.

Interesting that Steve Forbes interviewed at UTEP. I thought he might aim higher.

https://hoopdirt.com/utep-search-update/

first site most coaches check in the morning...
1. you're on it an mentioned for a new job
2. you're on it and mentioned because you're losing your job
can change the whole days outlook

For cause for off the cuff comments will never fly.
Pitt's going to end up losing in court or settling early for nearly the full buyout amount

It might be tough for him to aim higher from being attached to Pearl. CUSA is WAY better than his current conference, and UTEP is still potentially a really good job for a mid-major. Coaches go to P5 from UTEP, coaches don't go P5 from ETSU.

bobinator said:

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Andy Kennedy got got midseason...

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24 D1 spots open as of today. Bob Marlin will be contacted by many that consider themselves better programs than La. Laffayette

_lefraud_ said:

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It might be tough for him to aim higher from being attached to Pearl. CUSA is WAY better than his current conference, and UTEP is still potentially a really good job for a mid-major. Coaches go to P5 from UTEP, coaches don't go P5 from ETSU.

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That is a leap but it isn't unheard of, especially because he has HM experience at multiple places as an assistant and was also a high level juco head coach.

Brad Underwood from Stephen F (Southland) to Oklahoma State
Chris Beard from Arkansas Little Rock (Sun Belt) to UNLV/Texas Tech
Danny Hurley from Buffalo (MAC) to Arizona State
Brad Brownell from UNCW (CAA) to Clemson
Kevin Keats from UNCW (CAA) to NC State
Steve Pikiell from Stony Brook (America East) to Rutgers
Pat Chambers from Boston (Patriot League) to Penn State

He might love the UTEP opportunity or leverage the UTEP job for something bigger. Don't discount Joe Dooley in this situation, would also be a great fit at UTEP.

Yea, I didn't say it was uncommon for a mid-major to go to a P5...

Kevin Ollie out at UConn

Fox at Georgia is next.

Mikesyracuse1

And there it is.

I don't believe it for a second, but...

No. Way.

How about this one? The coaching carousel is fun.

Sure.

Good to see Thad Matta getting back into the game. Those couple years away seemed to help his back issues.

He knows what it's like to coach somewhere football is the clear #1. That's a good quality to have. If only i could think of a school where that quality would be useful. Besides Georgia, of course.

Matta is a midwest guy through-and-through, coaching at Xavier and Butler before going to OSU. Hard to see Pittsburgh not being interested. Lord knows the Panthers need all the help they can get.

Think he's a great fit at Pitt. He's already talked to Ole Miss.

Rothstein reporting Georgia has officially offered Matta. decision to be made in next 24 hours.

I can't believe Thad Matta is only 50, he's younger than Avery Johnson.

Seems like Memphis is going to try it out with Penny Hardaway.

_lefraud_ said:

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Right, so maybe schools should add in the contract:

If in any given season, a coach fails to win at least %25 of its conference games, than that could "cause" for termination and a lower buyout of the remaining contract (if any) will be in the amount of $1 million dollars.

That would be going 4-14 or worse. Seems pretty reasonable, and still not scare off any other potential coaches.

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I don't know that it would "scare off" coaches, but if somebody else offered a comparable contract without that clause then any coach would with a choice would take the contract without that clause. So to offset you would have to offer more per year. It is all fungible.

People like guaranteed contracts. In a competitive market you have to offer people what they like.