Le sigh...

I really wanted to believe that this was going to be the year that BK proved we should keep him around, but I've essentially given up on that hope. Having said that...

Assuming BK is fired after barely making the tournament and losing in the first round, does Woodward go out and make a "home run" hire, like he did with Jimbo Fisher? Or does he aim for a promising up-and-comer like we've done again and again with very limited success?

Do we even have the money to go out and money-whip the man we want, or has all of our AD funding been gone straight into Jimbo's pocket?

If it is feasible, and money's not an issue here, who is the "home run" hire, anyway? Opinions?

I won't pretend to know if any of these are even remotely possible, but I would love to see us take a shot at someone like Buzz Williams, Greg Marshall, Mike Davis, or even a Billy Donovan.

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The reason we were able to make a Jimbo type hire in football was because it's a great job. Facilities ,money, fan support.....it's a sleeping giant. We are no where close to being that in basketball. Heck the average Aggie fan that knows there football probably can't even tell you how many timeouts you get in basketball or how many fouls until the bonus.

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Yeah, you're absolutely right about that...

The reality of the situation is that Kennedy will be given next year as well. This is Texas A&M, no one except random ass posters on the internet gives a **** about basketball. To people that matter, making the tournament in and of itself is a massive achievement.

The good news is that our lineup next year will most likely be garbage and we will come nowhere close to making the tournament.

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The reality of the situation is that Kennedy will be given next year as well. This is Texas A&M, no one except random ass posters on the internet gives a **** about basketball. To people that matter, making the tournament in and of itself is a massive achievement.

The good news is that our lineup next year will most likely be garbage and we will come nowhere close to making the tournament.

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That's not good news

I'd be pretty okay with that hire, though I wouldn't necessarily say he's a home run hire...

BK has been so bad no one cares about bball anymore. Seriously. We went out and got turgeon after BK. Now we don't have anyone who cares enough to buy this guy out or go get a desireable coach. UTx, UF, and Michigan get it. You don't have to have bball high as football but at least try. (Yes I realize Shaka isn't killing it but the hire was good).

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Eric Musselman Would be a great hire.

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Money Whip!!!

You got over 5 million and private jets for recruiting?

What do you figure it costs to fly snoop dog and his crew in to play your Xmas party? If buzbe can pony up for that what's a few more dollars for a competent basketball coach.

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Eric Musselman Would be a great hire.

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dude could definitely recruit. have you seen his wife?

Woodward enthusiastically signed off on a multi-year, multi-million dollar extension.

He's not exactly a rocket scientist.

Now we have to fix what he screwed up and it will be both expensive, and true to Aggie coaching history, embarrassing.

Indeed. I can't imagine how many people saw that contract and mortgaged the future of Aggie basketball for a "nice guy" they like.

Woodward is the AD that gave Kennedy his extension....so I don't trust his basketball IQ...

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Woodward is the AD that gave Kennedy his extension....so I don't trust his basketball IQ...

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The extension was already on the table and he was coming in to handle the Kyle Field rebuild.

I'll cut him some slack for signing off on the predecessor's work (that had donor backing).

Now, if this joke of a coach comes back next season? Yeah, break out the pitch forks.

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Yeah, break out the pitch forks.

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Might as well get an early start 'cause BK ain't going anywhere.

I enjoy basketball and I would be willing to sit on Aggies bench. It would take a BIG contract to
get me, though. Probably something over 90K --- Anything better than where I'm now!

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Yeah, break out the pitch forks.

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Might as well get an early start 'cause BK ain't going anywhere.

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Then donations and season ticket sales will collapse for next year and Woodward will have to answer for more red ink on the balance sheet around hoops.

But I disagree with the notion he's safe given we're heading for the finish we are.

If we do not make the NCAA tournament this year, it would be absolutely incredible for Kennedy to come back again next year. I can't believe that is a possibility. Firing him and having any ******* coach almost for free to offset the cost might legitimately be a better option financially than keeping him. Who is gonna pay for tickets to see a program that would basically be sending a signal that it isn't even going to try?

There is no way to walk back failure this season, and an increasingly negative track record to boot. Since I've been following our program, we have been no basketball powerhouse even though we have played good basketball. There have only been 4 seasons out of the 17 or so years where I've been paying attention where we had a team that was expected to be good...basically where we started the season ranked. Gillispie and Turgeon coached 7 years, and made the tournament 6 times, but even they only had two of those teams. 1 team was amazing, 1 ended up mediocre, but not bad. Kennedy will have had the other 2 ranked teams, and both times to miss the dance? 1 year where we overachieved a couple years ago simply cannot balance all the failure. There are no recruiting successes to point to on the horizon either. If we don't make the tournament this year (which even making it would be a bad taste, but at least a bare minimum of expectation could be claimed to have been reached) there is no way you can bring him back.

He's not going anywhere so this dialogue is the ultimate in mental masturbation.

I would hope that whenever BK decides to hang it up that the AD will have at least the leverage of being in a top level basketball conference since that is definitely the SEC trend. We should have good facilities with improvements on the drawing board and a core of fans that are eager to be lead out of the wasteland.

Membership in the SEC is the only thing that gives me hope that we will ultimately have to invest in basketball.

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Membership in the SEC is the only thing that gives me hope that we will ultimately have to invest in basketball.

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If anything I think the opposite.

Izzo

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Woodward and big wigs may not care about basketball, but I bet they care about making $$.

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TV revenue is likely good enough.
So many local Ags will continue to buy tickets strictly for something to do

If we lose out or something approaching that (win 1 and lose first round in SEC) and MAYBE they seriously consider it. The buyout Rocket Scientist Woodward bestowed upon Kennedy is substantive and will likely buy him (literally) another year.

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Yeah, break out the pitch forks.

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Might as well get an early start 'cause BK ain't going anywhere.

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An 8th year for Kennedy will be a ledger sheet disaster. Attendance and season ticket sales would absolutely plummet.

Woodward and big wigs may not care about basketball, but I bet they care about making $$.

At this point, the only people who would buy season tickets for this clown show are people trying to rack up priority points for football. And there can't be enough of those to keep that ship in the black.

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Hoops has already gone from a profitable program for us when Turgeon left to a red line on the balance sheet with an accelerating trend in the wrong direction. We're already there, the question is how much pain does the AD want to endure?

Especially given the fact that if they go out and invest in a good coach, things will be back in the black and substantially so, freeing up more money for the non-revenue sports (and football).

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Woodward and big wigs may not care about basketball, but I bet they care about making $$.

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TV revenue is likely good enough.
So many local Ags will continue to buy tickets strictly for something to do

If we lose out or something approaching that (win 1 and lose first round in SEC) and MAYBE they seriously consider it. The buyout Rocket Scientist Woodward bestowed upon Kennedy is substantive and will likely buy him (literally) another year.

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TV revenue has not been enough for the last two years.